VR3 wrote: »
Inquiries not invoiced yet -@xschop RTA8TL (one pair with the tab and one without)@honestaquarian 3.1tl (one pair with the tab and one without)@JayCee 3.1tl (one pair with the tab and one without)@Drumingman (one pair 2.3)@gudnoyez (one pair 2.3?)@muncybob (2b)
Not sure if I missed anyone else??
drumminman wrote: »
Must have bought the wrong Velcro. Doesn’t want to stick to the diffraction pads - suggestions?
Toolfan66 wrote: »
We have a big snowstorm heading in not sure when I can get the Velcro dots to try them out..
Immediately, the sound stage changed. Moved much more forward F/B vs L/R with L/R moving inward but definitely did not collapse. Bigger (larger) image...think floating head/singer analogy, at first, but now I'm not convinced. Also, much more weight, meat-on-the-bones to the sound. Last point is good!
Soundstage's not so wide anymore but a bit more natural. I've had to recalibrate my brain w/SDA and, being objective, it's actually better. I love the wide-open spaces that sometimes are not realistic with previous SDA experience. But doing A/B comparison w/the pad's on/off, see where it's more in-line with what a speaker should do. Interestingly, these differences I've also experienced w/cables.
The detail, even after Rob's plates, is a big change. Details are much more subtle and I'm left wondering if it is delicate....or am I missing something? Also found myself listening at a much higher volume. Lowered the volume and as long as I don't adjust it louder and get used to a certain SPL, lower volume is just as enjoyable.
I know Gardenstater modified for off-axis. My 1.2's are in a sweet spot and I'm the only one that listens to them. But, off-axis, not a factor for me, may be for someone else.
As a whole, I absolutely love the change...but can't help wonder if there's room in the design to experiment for an even better outcome? I repeat, I've really stepped back and tried to objectively put aside my bias and "recalibrated" my brain. In that vein, I believe, Trey, you've helped get these closer to negating the faults non-SDA lovers find w/SDA.
One last caveat. My SDA's are uber modded and I'm a firm believer that small positive changes have a BIG cumulative affect.VR3
Great feedback and oddly similar to what I experienced with the Focals. The focals super cleaned up with the design similar to yours but I lost a bit of flare and air so to speak. The oval cut out I modified gave me the best of both worlds. I also think an oval cut out would help with off axis response as well.
So, the width of the stage issue can definitely be resolved by enlarging the cut out. If you have a real nice pair of scissors, cut the cut outs to 2.25 h x 3" w and let me know your thoughts. I think this will give you more of the width back without taking away any of the benefits you experienced. I really think the larger singular pad is the answer for these large Polks if someone wanted to try to address diffraction.
Working on modding the pads. Just made a template and have a really good utility knife to cut. This look good?
That should be close enough. The issue with the round cut out seems to be some horizontal dispersion that is desirable is being adsborbed versus just the undesirable stuff. May not hurt to be a little "rounder".JayCee
Much better. I've amassed 92 tracks that are on a demo list. All have brief things I key in on. I've moved so much since getting these speakers and have honed down to the following 5 tracks when I redo my system. Always in this order.
Bonnie Raitt: Left/right and center placement. Cymbals/percussion/shimmer in left channel, female voice and drums that muddy if nodes in room, acoustic guitar natural and well defined outside the right speaker.
Cars: Heavily mixed track that has wicked fake echo/space, singer's voice pans across the soundstage and then moves away to deadcenter and deep. Recorded to sound like a church, cave, etc...big hall effect. Tells me in 10 seconds if SDA's off.
Cyndi Lauper and Tony Bennett tracks: Female & male voices, jazz instruments. Placement, realism, percussion, snare drum, clarinet & placement. Voices sound more real the better my system gets. Voices collapse when it's off.
Cheap Trick (CT): Not your average CT. Very synthed spacey soundstage and bass line. Then come in crunchy guitars. Would never guess it's CT.
Dire Straits: If above is GTG, this track is a dream for subtle details, dynamic range and soundstage. Interestingly, after I purchased my MIT S1's from Joe Abrams, he recommended this song. I laughed because I was listening to it when I read his email. I own different mixes on LP, CD and SACD x2. I prefer the CD mix. Saw them in concert the first time they debuted the album.
Feedback: Space and shimmer I was questioning has returned. First impression is modding wider is not a mistake........LaterJayCee
I've moved on in my demo list and 2 songs had me looking outside and down the hall. Details I've never heard. Honestly, thought it was something around my house. Thanks, again, and I think we're locked in. Good work.VR3
Excellent, yeah that dimension seemed to be perfect for the focal as well. You can post your thoughts on the forum, if anyone wants a new pair with the revised design, I can ship them out or walk them through to alter it! Part of the process!
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