20amp dedicated circuit

So I finally have this now. But before I give feedback on it, I would like to hear from you guys that have one/ or more on your rigs, let me know what changes you heard after installing one?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    Increased resolution, clarity. More authoritative bass/midbass/slam/texture. Increased sound stage.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    Ah it's been so long, I have 3, 20 Amp circuits and it is definitely a great peace of mind

    Congrats!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,517
    Better sound, faster attack and peace of mind.


    Plus I swear my plasma looks much better once it’s not sharing power with my various amps (sub amps + 5 channel).
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
    VR3 wrote: »
    Ah it's been so long, I have 3, 20 Amp circuits and it is definitely a great peace of mind

    Congrats!
    same for and from me, Joe though I confess I wish I ran a fourth as a dedicated surround feed - details for another day. Regardless, your ears will thank you

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  • motorstereo
    motorstereo Posts: 2,042
    3 20's here to. Probably my best bang for the buck upgrade.
  • Jazzhead
    Jazzhead Posts: 520
    Same effects that Tom reports above, but what surprised me was upgrading the outlet from a Hubbell to a Furutech gtx gold. The resolution of vocals and other detail was greatly improved. I never would have thought an outlet upgrade could do that, but there it is.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    Yeah. So I have the Furutech gold and Romex 10/2 wire for this tweak
    It feeds into the Audioquest Niagara 5000 with an AQ Hurricane 2m cable (almost $7k retail! Am I insane?- didn’t pay that.)
    Everything is powered off the Niagara.
    I am hearing (and seeing) slightly more of everything. Just more authority.
    The AQ was already doing a great job extracting as much as possible, but now the sub is just off the chain. The depth of the image has increased as has the range of tones. All octaves are sounding very detailed as some might have been stronger than others in the past.
    Quite happy overall.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    Now just need to add 2 more! 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜

    Jk, glad you are enjoying the benefits
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,314
    I ran the separate 20 Amp line when we built our home. So I have no 'before and after' comparisons.

    But, as Jazzhead stated above, I had a very notable increase in sound quality after installing some better receptacles. Mine are a simple Hubbell Hospital Grade, but they are sooo much better than the standard .50 receptacles.

    I also enjoy the ability to cut the power to the system when there is a storm brewing or I'm leaving for a few days. As been said, Peace of Mind is worth a ton.
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
    ”...Mine are a simple Hubbell Hospital Grade, but they are sooo much better than the standard .50 receptacles.
    Mike,
    I googled “ hubbell hospital grade receptacle.” Which do I buy?

    I saw receptacles every color of the rainbow. Prices from $5 to $75. 15A, 20A, and some GFCIs. I’m interested in as many as 7, mostly 20As.
    I also enjoy the ability to cut the power to the system when there is a storm brewing or I'm leaving for a few days. As been said, Peace of Mind is worth a ton.
    What method do you use? Does it completely disconnect your system from your circuit or just open one side like a light switch?

    I just unplug from the feeds.

    Big thanks and congrats 🍾🎊🎈🎉 Tony
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out 8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out *soldered LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & “Plugged*” Mids - 981, connected w/MP Premiere ICs Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s *Xschop's handy work
  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,162
    Congrats brother.
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,314
    edited June 2020
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    ”...Mine are a simple Hubbell Hospital Grade, but they are sooo much better than the standard .50 receptacles.
    Mike,
    I googled “ hubbell hospital grade receptacle.” Which do I buy?

    I saw receptacles every color of the rainbow. Prices from $5 to $75. 15A, 20A, and some GFCIs. I’m interested in as many as 7, mostly 20As.
    I also enjoy the ability to cut the power to the system when there is a storm brewing or I'm leaving for a few days. As been said, Peace of Mind is worth a ton.
    What method do you use? Does it completely disconnect your system from your circuit or just open one side like a light switch?

    I just unplug from the feeds.

    Big thanks and congrats 🍾🎊🎈🎉 Tony

    Hubbell-Wiring HBL5262I Industrial Specification Grade Extra Heavy-Duty Straight Blade Duplex

    They are not a "Hi End Audio Receptacle" but they are MUCH better than a Standard Grade. They provide a good, solid grip on heavy Power Cords.

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    To cut the power I flip the Breaker
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
    edited June 2020
    Thanks Mike😊

    $20-25 - reasonably $d considering connection quality improvement. I will stock up a few at a time for my system relocation in 3-4 years
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out 8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out *soldered LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & “Plugged*” Mids - 981, connected w/MP Premiere ICs Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s *Xschop's handy work
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    Ginger? What the....
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • rpf65
    rpf65 Posts: 2,127
    I have 4 for my system.
    A noticeable amount of noise was eliminated, and that was with a low end AVR.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,475
    Most anything hospital grade has much better stronger grip. You sure wouldn't want your lifeline suddenly falling out of the socket.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    I assume when I was in the hospital the receptacles there met some standard. While there I was hooked up to some intravenous drip tube, and some electric gizmo to monitor the heart. Whenever I needed to go to the bathroom I just gave a tug on the power cord to unplug that stuff. If it was a tighter receptacle then it was only a little bit tighter.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,558
    Bud you should have demanded to be taken to a hospital that used power cables from Shunyata Research's medical division: https://clearimagescientific.com/products/
  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 2,987
    PS Audio has outlets as well: https://www.psaudio.com/products/power-port-classic/ I got one of these on the secondary market, and can tell you it has quite a good grip!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    I'm using pangea for the 2 channel circuits and they seem to perform well
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • invalid
    invalid Posts: 1,270
    VR3 wrote: »
    I'm using pangea for the 2 channel circuits and they seem to perform well

    Which pangea outlets are you using?
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    edited June 2020
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    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,314
    I'm not the one who labels outlets as "Hospital Grade". I just know that with eight outlets in my Circuit, I couldn't bring myself to spend $1600. or more on receptacles.
  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,475
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I assume when I was in the hospital the receptacles there met some standard. While there I was hooked up to some intravenous drip tube, and some electric gizmo to monitor the heart. Whenever I needed to go to the bathroom I just gave a tug on the power cord to unplug that stuff. If it was a tighter receptacle then it was only a little bit tighter.

    Bud i'm sure you know they get a ton of use and wear out from said use. There are standards they must meet.

    To be labeled "hospital grade" they must meet a certain criteria that one the NEC and two manufactures of equipment require.

    From the NEC site:
    The primary reason to use a hospital-grade receptacle at a patient bed location is to ensure that a receptacle with a greater contact tension is provided to minimize possibilities that an attachment plug supplying medical or life support equipment may be disconnected because the attachment plug slipped out of the receptacle.


    Another important consideration is what type of equipment will be connected to the receptacle. Some types of medical equipment include a manufacturer marking that indicates that proper grounding can only be ensured where connected to a hospital-grade receptacle. In this case, if one knows that this type of equipment is going to be used, 110.3(B) requires a hospital-grade receptacle because of the installation instructions and recommendations from the medical equipment manufacturer.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    Silly people. You guys should know by now that a dedicated transformer and a low cost circuit breaker like this is a minimum requirement to getting good sound.

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    Anything else is just.....well, substandard. I mean, if you have already gone this route, spending a bill or two on an outlet ain't really that much at the end of the day. 'Naw mean?

    Tom



    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    Obviously I am kidding in the post above. That's a 40K panel you can drool over though. I was able to find a post of my observations the very day I installed "just the outlets" in my rig. Again, no other changes, this is just replacing the 2 outlets 7 years ago...

    "....here's my observations on the installation of two upgraded electrical outlets that feed the system yesterday. Thought I'd go ahead and share my observations for those who may be interested.

    After listening to about 20 plus albums with nothing else changed but the two outlets the system is plugged into, I'm actually rather surprised at the outcome. The entire presence is sharper, more "in focus", if you will. I have noticed that the volume now needs to be lowered as the volume knob's usual position is too loud now. The lower registers have more weight, authority and extension. I really don't know how to describe the change in the top end....less "grain", if you will, that brings out even more subtle detail. That's about the only way I can think of describing what I'm hearing on the top end. It's nice.

    I will say this, I could kick myself in the ol' keister for not doing this sooner. I have had the outlets for about two years now. DOH! It amazes me that such a little change can make such an impact. It's nothing so dramatic like a night and day difference but it is definitely something to consider if you haven't upgraded the outlets yet.

    I believe the outlets I installed were PS Audio, though I'm not 100% certain about that. I can not see any "advertising" on them whatsoever. The best I can tell you is that they are grey, kinda look like a hospital outlet and they have an orange triangle and a teal circle next to the lower grounding pin. I know, not much help but that's all I can offer other than that they weigh about triple the weight of a standard outlet."


    I have since found out that the outlets are not PS Audio and I still have no clue what brand they are but they cling to a power cord like a 5 gallon bucket to another 5 gallon bucket. It definitely takes some effort.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • invalid
    invalid Posts: 1,270
    VR3 wrote: »
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    I have the same outlets, not bad for $20
  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
    treitz3 wrote: »
    The entire presence is sharper, more "in focus", if you will. I have noticed that the volume now needs to be lowered as the volume knob's usual position is too loud now. The lower registers have more weight, authority and extension. I really don't know how to describe the change in the top end....less "grain", if you will, that brings out even more subtle detail. That's about the only way I can think of describing what I'm hearing on the top end. It's nice.

    Yep! Exactly
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,708
    Dedicated 20 amp lines for all my rigs with a total of 16 of these...
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    and 6 of these....
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    also 6 of these...
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