20amp dedicated circuit
joecoulson
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So I finally have this now. But before I give feedback on it, I would like to hear from you guys that have one/ or more on your rigs, let me know what changes you heard after installing one?
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Increased resolution, clarity. More authoritative bass/midbass/slam/texture. Increased sound stage.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Ah it's been so long, I have 3, 20 Amp circuits and it is definitely a great peace of mind
Congrats!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Better sound, faster attack and peace of mind.
Plus I swear my plasma looks much better once it’s not sharing power with my various amps (sub amps + 5 channel)."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
same for and from me, Joe though I confess I wish I ran a fourth as a dedicated surround feed - details for another day. Regardless, your ears will thank youAh it's been so long, I have 3, 20 Amp circuits and it is definitely a great peace of mind
Congrats!
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Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
3 20's here to. Probably my best bang for the buck upgrade.
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Same effects that Tom reports above, but what surprised me was upgrading the outlet from a Hubbell to a Furutech gtx gold. The resolution of vocals and other detail was greatly improved. I never would have thought an outlet upgrade could do that, but there it is.
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Yeah. So I have the Furutech gold and Romex 10/2 wire for this tweak
It feeds into the Audioquest Niagara 5000 with an AQ Hurricane 2m cable (almost $7k retail! Am I insane?- didn’t pay that.)
Everything is powered off the Niagara.
I am hearing (and seeing) slightly more of everything. Just more authority.
The AQ was already doing a great job extracting as much as possible, but now the sub is just off the chain. The depth of the image has increased as has the range of tones. All octaves are sounding very detailed as some might have been stronger than others in the past.
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Now just need to add 2 more! 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜
Jk, glad you are enjoying the benefits- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I ran the separate 20 Amp line when we built our home. So I have no 'before and after' comparisons.
But, as Jazzhead stated above, I had a very notable increase in sound quality after installing some better receptacles. Mine are a simple Hubbell Hospital Grade, but they are sooo much better than the standard .50 receptacles.
I also enjoy the ability to cut the power to the system when there is a storm brewing or I'm leaving for a few days. As been said, Peace of Mind is worth a ton. -
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Mike,Mike Reeter wrote: »”...Mine are a simple Hubbell Hospital Grade, but they are sooo much better than the standard .50 receptacles.
I googled “ hubbell hospital grade receptacle.” Which do I buy?
I saw receptacles every color of the rainbow. Prices from $5 to $75. 15A, 20A, and some GFCIs. I’m interested in as many as 7, mostly 20As.
What method do you use? Does it completely disconnect your system from your circuit or just open one side like a light switch?Mike Reeter wrote: »I also enjoy the ability to cut the power to the system when there is a storm brewing or I'm leaving for a few days. As been said, Peace of Mind is worth a ton.
I just unplug from the feeds.
Big thanks and congrats 🍾🎊🎈🎉 Tony
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8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
Congrats brother."if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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Mike,Mike Reeter wrote: »”...Mine are a simple Hubbell Hospital Grade, but they are sooo much better than the standard .50 receptacles.
I googled “ hubbell hospital grade receptacle.” Which do I buy?
I saw receptacles every color of the rainbow. Prices from $5 to $75. 15A, 20A, and some GFCIs. I’m interested in as many as 7, mostly 20As.
What method do you use? Does it completely disconnect your system from your circuit or just open one side like a light switch?Mike Reeter wrote: »I also enjoy the ability to cut the power to the system when there is a storm brewing or I'm leaving for a few days. As been said, Peace of Mind is worth a ton.
I just unplug from the feeds.
Big thanks and congrats 🍾🎊🎈🎉 Tony
Hubbell-Wiring HBL5262I Industrial Specification Grade Extra Heavy-Duty Straight Blade Duplex
They are not a "Hi End Audio Receptacle" but they are MUCH better than a Standard Grade. They provide a good, solid grip on heavy Power Cords.
To cut the power I flip the Breaker
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Thanks Mike😊
$20-25 - reasonably $d considering connection quality improvement. I will stock up a few at a time for my system relocation in 3-4 yearsSamsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
Ginger? What the....- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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I have 4 for my system.
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Most anything hospital grade has much better stronger grip. You sure wouldn't want your lifeline suddenly falling out of the socket.
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I assume when I was in the hospital the receptacles there met some standard. While there I was hooked up to some intravenous drip tube, and some electric gizmo to monitor the heart. Whenever I needed to go to the bathroom I just gave a tug on the power cord to unplug that stuff. If it was a tighter receptacle then it was only a little bit tighter.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Bud you should have demanded to be taken to a hospital that used power cables from Shunyata Research's medical division: https://clearimagescientific.com/products/
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PS Audio has outlets as well: https://www.psaudio.com/products/power-port-classic/ I got one of these on the secondary market, and can tell you it has quite a good grip!"This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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I'm using pangea for the 2 channel circuits and they seem to perform well- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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I'm using pangea for the 2 channel circuits and they seem to perform well
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.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I'm not the one who labels outlets as "Hospital Grade". I just know that with eight outlets in my Circuit, I couldn't bring myself to spend $1600. or more on receptacles.
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I assume when I was in the hospital the receptacles there met some standard. While there I was hooked up to some intravenous drip tube, and some electric gizmo to monitor the heart. Whenever I needed to go to the bathroom I just gave a tug on the power cord to unplug that stuff. If it was a tighter receptacle then it was only a little bit tighter.
Bud i'm sure you know they get a ton of use and wear out from said use. There are standards they must meet.
To be labeled "hospital grade" they must meet a certain criteria that one the NEC and two manufactures of equipment require.
From the NEC site:The primary reason to use a hospital-grade receptacle at a patient bed location is to ensure that a receptacle with a greater contact tension is provided to minimize possibilities that an attachment plug supplying medical or life support equipment may be disconnected because the attachment plug slipped out of the receptacle.
Another important consideration is what type of equipment will be connected to the receptacle. Some types of medical equipment include a manufacturer marking that indicates that proper grounding can only be ensured where connected to a hospital-grade receptacle. In this case, if one knows that this type of equipment is going to be used, 110.3(B) requires a hospital-grade receptacle because of the installation instructions and recommendations from the medical equipment manufacturer. -
Silly people. You guys should know by now that a dedicated transformer and a low cost circuit breaker like this is a minimum requirement to getting good sound.
Anything else is just.....well, substandard. I mean, if you have already gone this route, spending a bill or two on an outlet ain't really that much at the end of the day. 'Naw mean?
Tom
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Obviously I am kidding in the post above. That's a 40K panel you can drool over though. I was able to find a post of my observations the very day I installed "just the outlets" in my rig. Again, no other changes, this is just replacing the 2 outlets 7 years ago...
"....here's my observations on the installation of two upgraded electrical outlets that feed the system yesterday. Thought I'd go ahead and share my observations for those who may be interested.
After listening to about 20 plus albums with nothing else changed but the two outlets the system is plugged into, I'm actually rather surprised at the outcome. The entire presence is sharper, more "in focus", if you will. I have noticed that the volume now needs to be lowered as the volume knob's usual position is too loud now. The lower registers have more weight, authority and extension. I really don't know how to describe the change in the top end....less "grain", if you will, that brings out even more subtle detail. That's about the only way I can think of describing what I'm hearing on the top end. It's nice.
I will say this, I could kick myself in the ol' keister for not doing this sooner. I have had the outlets for about two years now. DOH! It amazes me that such a little change can make such an impact. It's nothing so dramatic like a night and day difference but it is definitely something to consider if you haven't upgraded the outlets yet.
I believe the outlets I installed were PS Audio, though I'm not 100% certain about that. I can not see any "advertising" on them whatsoever. The best I can tell you is that they are grey, kinda look like a hospital outlet and they have an orange triangle and a teal circle next to the lower grounding pin. I know, not much help but that's all I can offer other than that they weigh about triple the weight of a standard outlet."
I have since found out that the outlets are not PS Audio and I still have no clue what brand they are but they cling to a power cord like a 5 gallon bucket to another 5 gallon bucket. It definitely takes some effort.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
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The entire presence is sharper, more "in focus", if you will. I have noticed that the volume now needs to be lowered as the volume knob's usual position is too loud now. The lower registers have more weight, authority and extension. I really don't know how to describe the change in the top end....less "grain", if you will, that brings out even more subtle detail. That's about the only way I can think of describing what I'm hearing on the top end. It's nice.
Yep! Exactly
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Dedicated 20 amp lines for all my rigs with a total of 16 of these...
and 6 of these....
also 6 of these...
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