20amp dedicated circuit

So I finally have this now. But before I give feedback on it, I would like to hear from you guys that have one/ or more on your rigs, let me know what changes you heard after installing one?
Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AS-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
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  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,617
    Increased resolution, clarity. More authoritative bass/midbass/slam/texture. Increased sound stage.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,871
    Ah it's been so long, I have 3, 20 Amp circuits and it is definitely a great peace of mind

    Congrats!
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • EndersShadowEndersShadow Posts: 17,098
    Better sound, faster attack and peace of mind.


    Plus I swear my plasma looks much better once it’s not sharing power with my various amps (sub amps + 5 channel).
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,482
    VR3 wrote: »
    Ah it's been so long, I have 3, 20 Amp circuits and it is definitely a great peace of mind

    Congrats!
    same for and from me, Joe though I confess I wish I ran a fourth as a dedicated surround feed - details for another day. Regardless, your ears will thank you

    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Xbox, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; M&T - 981
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: an Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • motorstereomotorstereo Posts: 1,494
    3 20's here to. Probably my best bang for the buck upgrade.
  • JazzheadJazzhead Posts: 112
    Same effects that Tom reports above, but what surprised me was upgrading the outlet from a Hubbell to a Furutech gtx gold. The resolution of vocals and other detail was greatly improved. I never would have thought an outlet upgrade could do that, but there it is.
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    Dedicated 20A/10 AWG circuit/Furutech GTX-D (G) outlet
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,416
    Yeah. So I have the Furutech gold and Romex 10/2 wire for this tweak
    It feeds into the Audioquest Niagara 5000 with an AQ Hurricane 2m cable (almost $7k retail! Am I insane?- didn’t pay that.)
    Everything is powered off the Niagara.
    I am hearing (and seeing) slightly more of everything. Just more authority.
    The AQ was already doing a great job extracting as much as possible, but now the sub is just off the chain. The depth of the image has increased as has the range of tones. All octaves are sounding very detailed as some might have been stronger than others in the past.
    Quite happy overall.
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AS-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,871
    Now just need to add 2 more! 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜

    Jk, glad you are enjoying the benefits
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,923
    I ran the separate 20 Amp line when we built our home. So I have no 'before and after' comparisons.

    But, as Jazzhead stated above, I had a very notable increase in sound quality after installing some better receptacles. Mine are a simple Hubbell Hospital Grade, but they are sooo much better than the standard .50 receptacles.

    I also enjoy the ability to cut the power to the system when there is a storm brewing or I'm leaving for a few days. As been said, Peace of Mind is worth a ton.
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's/SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,482
    ”...Mine are a simple Hubbell Hospital Grade, but they are sooo much better than the standard .50 receptacles.
    Mike,
    I googled “ hubbell hospital grade receptacle.” Which do I buy?

    I saw receptacles every color of the rainbow. Prices from $5 to $75. 15A, 20A, and some GFCIs. I’m interested in as many as 7, mostly 20As.
    I also enjoy the ability to cut the power to the system when there is a storm brewing or I'm leaving for a few days. As been said, Peace of Mind is worth a ton.
    What method do you use? Does it completely disconnect your system from your circuit or just open one side like a light switch?

    I just unplug from the feeds.

    Big thanks and congrats 🍾🎊🎈🎉 Tony
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Xbox, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; M&T - 981
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: an Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • tophatjohnnytophatjohnny Posts: 2,965
    Congrats brother.
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
    *****************************
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,923
    edited June 16
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    ”...Mine are a simple Hubbell Hospital Grade, but they are sooo much better than the standard .50 receptacles.
    Mike,
    I googled “ hubbell hospital grade receptacle.” Which do I buy?

    I saw receptacles every color of the rainbow. Prices from $5 to $75. 15A, 20A, and some GFCIs. I’m interested in as many as 7, mostly 20As.
    I also enjoy the ability to cut the power to the system when there is a storm brewing or I'm leaving for a few days. As been said, Peace of Mind is worth a ton.
    What method do you use? Does it completely disconnect your system from your circuit or just open one side like a light switch?

    I just unplug from the feeds.

    Big thanks and congrats 🍾🎊🎈🎉 Tony

    Hubbell-Wiring HBL5262I Industrial Specification Grade Extra Heavy-Duty Straight Blade Duplex

    They are not a "Hi End Audio Receptacle" but they are MUCH better than a Standard Grade. They provide a good, solid grip on heavy Power Cords.

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    To cut the power I flip the Breaker
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's/SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,482
    edited June 16
    Thanks Mike😊

    $20-25 - reasonably $d considering connection quality improvement. I will stock up a few at a time for my system relocation in 3-4 years
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED
    Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro
    Samsung BDP, Dish Rcvr, Xbox, Phillips CD chgr

    Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; CC outside
    BJC 10 ga - LCR mids, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline - LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered

    LR: tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; M&T - 981
    CC: Rotel RB985 -> tri-amped CSi A6
    5 Audio Pro Subs: 1 B1.39: an Evidence at each corner
    Surrounds: Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3
    Power Conditioning & Distribution:
    3 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 4 Furman Miniport 20s
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,871
    Ginger? What the....
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • rpf65rpf65 Posts: 2,129
    I have 4 for my system.
    A noticeable amount of noise was eliminated, and that was with a low end AVR.
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 16,592
    Most anything hospital grade has much better stronger grip. You sure wouldn't want your lifeline suddenly falling out of the socket.
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 13,438
    I assume when I was in the hospital the receptacles there met some standard. While there I was hooked up to some intravenous drip tube, and some electric gizmo to monitor the heart. Whenever I needed to go to the bathroom I just gave a tug on the power cord to unplug that stuff. If it was a tighter receptacle then it was only a little bit tighter.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

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    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

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    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 8,134
    Bud you should have demanded to be taken to a hospital that used power cables from Shunyata Research's medical division: https://clearimagescientific.com/products/
  • jdjohnjdjohn Posts: 1,431
    PS Audio has outlets as well: https://www.psaudio.com/products/power-port-classic/ I got one of these on the secondary market, and can tell you it has quite a good grip!

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,871
    I'm using pangea for the 2 channel circuits and they seem to perform well
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • invalidinvalid Posts: 61
    VR3 wrote: »
    I'm using pangea for the 2 channel circuits and they seem to perform well

    Which pangea outlets are you using?
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 23,871
    edited June 17
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    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • Mike ReeterMike Reeter Posts: 3,923
    I'm not the one who labels outlets as "Hospital Grade". I just know that with eight outlets in my Circuit, I couldn't bring myself to spend $1600. or more on receptacles.
    SDA SRS 2.3TL's/SDA SRS 3.1TL's/SDA CRS+4.1TL's and some other stuff
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 16,592
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I assume when I was in the hospital the receptacles there met some standard. While there I was hooked up to some intravenous drip tube, and some electric gizmo to monitor the heart. Whenever I needed to go to the bathroom I just gave a tug on the power cord to unplug that stuff. If it was a tighter receptacle then it was only a little bit tighter.

    Bud i'm sure you know they get a ton of use and wear out from said use. There are standards they must meet.

    To be labeled "hospital grade" they must meet a certain criteria that one the NEC and two manufactures of equipment require.

    From the NEC site:
    The primary reason to use a hospital-grade receptacle at a patient bed location is to ensure that a receptacle with a greater contact tension is provided to minimize possibilities that an attachment plug supplying medical or life support equipment may be disconnected because the attachment plug slipped out of the receptacle.


    Another important consideration is what type of equipment will be connected to the receptacle. Some types of medical equipment include a manufacturer marking that indicates that proper grounding can only be ensured where connected to a hospital-grade receptacle. In this case, if one knows that this type of equipment is going to be used, 110.3(B) requires a hospital-grade receptacle because of the installation instructions and recommendations from the medical equipment manufacturer.
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,617
    Silly people. You guys should know by now that a dedicated transformer and a low cost circuit breaker like this is a minimum requirement to getting good sound.

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    Anything else is just.....well, substandard. I mean, if you have already gone this route, spending a bill or two on an outlet ain't really that much at the end of the day. 'Naw mean?

    Tom



    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,617
    Obviously I am kidding in the post above. That's a 40K panel you can drool over though. I was able to find a post of my observations the very day I installed "just the outlets" in my rig. Again, no other changes, this is just replacing the 2 outlets 7 years ago...

    "....here's my observations on the installation of two upgraded electrical outlets that feed the system yesterday. Thought I'd go ahead and share my observations for those who may be interested.

    After listening to about 20 plus albums with nothing else changed but the two outlets the system is plugged into, I'm actually rather surprised at the outcome. The entire presence is sharper, more "in focus", if you will. I have noticed that the volume now needs to be lowered as the volume knob's usual position is too loud now. The lower registers have more weight, authority and extension. I really don't know how to describe the change in the top end....less "grain", if you will, that brings out even more subtle detail. That's about the only way I can think of describing what I'm hearing on the top end. It's nice.

    I will say this, I could kick myself in the ol' keister for not doing this sooner. I have had the outlets for about two years now. DOH! It amazes me that such a little change can make such an impact. It's nothing so dramatic like a night and day difference but it is definitely something to consider if you haven't upgraded the outlets yet.

    I believe the outlets I installed were PS Audio, though I'm not 100% certain about that. I can not see any "advertising" on them whatsoever. The best I can tell you is that they are grey, kinda look like a hospital outlet and they have an orange triangle and a teal circle next to the lower grounding pin. I know, not much help but that's all I can offer other than that they weigh about triple the weight of a standard outlet."


    I have since found out that the outlets are not PS Audio and I still have no clue what brand they are but they cling to a power cord like a 5 gallon bucket to another 5 gallon bucket. It definitely takes some effort.

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • invalidinvalid Posts: 61
    VR3 wrote: »
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    I have the same outlets, not bad for $20
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 4,416
    treitz3 wrote: »
    The entire presence is sharper, more "in focus", if you will. I have noticed that the volume now needs to be lowered as the volume knob's usual position is too loud now. The lower registers have more weight, authority and extension. I really don't know how to describe the change in the top end....less "grain", if you will, that brings out even more subtle detail. That's about the only way I can think of describing what I'm hearing on the top end. It's nice.

    Yep! Exactly
    Auralic Vega G1/Rega TT/Denon SACD - Parasound P6 - PS Audio M700x2 - Elac Adante AS-61 - AQ Niagara 5000 - SVS SB16u
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,714
    Dedicated 20 amp lines for all my rigs with a total of 16 of these...
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    and 6 of these....
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    also 6 of these...
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