Scary virus outbreak in China

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 14,699
    edited March 2020
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Should benefit any business that makes home entertainment equipment. It already is negatively affecting airlines as people skip trips and stay home.

    Good point.. But there needs to be enough stock to fill demand if that’s the case..

  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 9,910
    I have enough stock. :D
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,498
    I have been watching news feeds from Tokyo, Germany, France, and BBC because I am an international news dork. I hate to say it but this coupled with the markets riding high for a long time now....we are headed into a recession.
  • ptrooper
    ptrooper Posts: 477
    I don't know why people here are buying every toilet paper role they can find, I really dont understand this...What are they doing? ....s#itting them selves
  • verb
    verb Posts: 9,925
    edited March 2020
    Most of the work related travel plans have been cancelled. Virtually all overseas trips cancelled. On campus, visitors are screened before entry (questionnaire), if yes to any of the risk questions, they are denied entry.

    Same holds true for all of our assembly plants globally.

    Globally based employees (US citizens) are given the option to take a chartered flight back to the US, but must undergo quarantine procedures once they arrive.

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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,498
    ptrooper wrote: »
    I don't know why people here are buying every toilet paper role they can find, I really dont understand this...What are they doing? ....s#itting them selves
    I dunno....does the virus cause people to have "the trots" as one reporter put it.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 14,783
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I have been watching news feeds from Tokyo, Germany, France, and BBC because I am an international news dork. I hate to say it but this coupled with the markets riding high for a long time now....we are headed into a recession.

    Sounds like people are starting to realize this is a different animal. The bad news is we are just getting started. At some point, new cases are going to explode, and just take off in every country. I agree we are entering a recession.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 14,783
    F1nut wrote: »
    The sky is falling....the sky is falling...

    Great. If it isn’t one thing then it’s something else.

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  • daddyjt
    daddyjt Posts: 1,469
    F1nut wrote: »
    The sky is falling....the sky is falling...

    Good. Maybe it will knock the stupid out of people.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 14,665
    Doubt it. Doom and gloom seems to be an additive drug 'round here.

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,356
    Isn't that how it always goes ? Ya cry wolf one too many times then when a real one shows up....your toast.

    Don't get me wrong, there are legitimate steps that need to be taken, and we are doing them as best we can, but it's no global world ender. Zombies aren't going to rule the world. :)
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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 2,017
    We've totally dropped the ball on distributing test kits, and we have a lot of catching up to do to the rest of the world. Yay CDC !! Even South Korea kicked our butts.

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/03/06/the-us-has-the-worlds-highest-coronavirus-death-rate-at-more-than-5-a-number-that-reflects-the-countrys-lack-of-testing/23941708/

    'Other countries are testing much more broadly than we are'
    Because flawed tests and limited funding initially meant testing capacity in the U.S. was restricted, the CDC had tested only about 470 people in the US as of Sunday, according to the agency's official count. The CDC has since removed those testing numbers from its website, however. Alex Azar, the US secretary of health and human services, told ABC on Sunday that 3,600 Americans had been tested.

    South Korea, by contrast, has implemented free coronavirus-testing drive-thrus and tested more than 136,000 people. The country's death rate is currently just 0.5% — 35 deaths out of a total of 6,088 reported infections. (It is constantly evolving, however, as patients' illnesses progress and as more people are diagnosed.)

    "Other countries are testing much more broadly than we are," William Schaffner, an infectious-disease specialist at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, previously told Business Insider. "We are trotting along while they're racing along."
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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 2,017
    We have totally dropped the ball on distributing test kits and the CDC is largely to blame. We have a lot of catching up to do, to the rest of the world.

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/03/06/the-us-has-the-worlds-highest-coronavirus-death-rate-at-more-than-5-a-number-that-reflects-the-countrys-lack-of-testing/23941708/

    'Other countries are testing much more broadly than we are'
    Because flawed tests and limited funding initially meant testing capacity in the U.S. was restricted, the CDC had tested only about 470 people in the US as of Sunday, according to the agency's official count. The CDC has since removed those testing numbers from its website, however. Alex Azar, the US secretary of health and human services, told ABC on Sunday that 3,600 Americans had been tested.

    South Korea, by contrast, has implemented free coronavirus-testing drive-thrus and tested more than 136,000 people. The country's death rate is currently just 0.5% — 35 deaths out of a total of 6,088 reported infections. (It is constantly evolving, however, as patients' illnesses progress and as more people are diagnosed.)

    "Other countries are testing much more broadly than we are," William Schaffner, an infectious-disease specialist at the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, previously told Business Insider. "We are trotting along while they're racing along."
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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 2,017
    Don't try to edit a post that you have JUST made. Vanilla will actually make the whole post go POOF. I've had this happen to me several times now.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,356
    edited March 2020
    Someone straighten me out on these test kits. What exactly are they ? As far as I can tell, the test is similar to the flu.....you take a swab of the throat or mucus and send it to a lab. What "kit" is needed for that ?

    I don't think they have the lab personnel to do all these tests to be honest, along with all the other tests labs have to perform.
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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 2,017
    It's a PCR test. Polymerase Chain Reaction. It identifies strands of DNA unique to the particular virus.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 5,734
    Woooo. Feds are having a Corona virus sale and dropped rates. Goong to re-fi my 2n home. Auto loan rates also dropped.
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  • CoolJazz
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    I got a really bad check cold and cough last week and the week before. Couldn't hardly sleep at night for all the coughing. Bad. Went on for a lot of days and just now mostly over it. Still a little bit in my lungs that works me over a bit in the mornings.

    I was nervous about it due to the timing and afraid even though I hadn't been anywhere but work that it might somehow be Corona 19. Turned out to just be Bud Light 12. So I think I'm going to be ok...

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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 3,706
    What's wrong with drinking water from the tap? It didn't come from China. If it tastes funny, get a Brita water filter or something. Bottled water is a terrible idea. For all we know the Corona virus was created by the bottled water industry... ;)
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 9,936
    la2vegas wrote: »
    In California NOBODY drinks water from the tap. Period.

    I have been drinking California tap water for the past 15 years, I just use a simple PUR brand charcoal filter.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,356
    edited March 2020
    It's a PCR test. Polymerase Chain Reaction. It identifies strands of DNA unique to the particular virus.

    This is done in a lab, not the screening process. I still don't see what special test kit is needed because the lab has the equipment to go through the process described. So you can screen , take samples from 10k people, send it to the lab. Who's running all these tests, which takes some time ? I think that is where the bottleneck is. I'm not seeing any special piece of equipment needed or special kit because a lab has all this stuff to begin with. Plus, I'm not so sure other countries are identifying it correctly if they can cruise through thousands in a more timely fashion than we can.

    https://www.medicinenet.com/pcr_polymerase_chain_reaction/article.htm#what_is_pcr_polymerase_chain_reaction
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 14,783
    In California NOBODY drinks water from the tap. Period.

    I do. All day, every day.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 19,469
    edited March 2020
    Single serving bottled water containers should be illegal

    The funny thing is most all bottled water is nothing more than municipal water ran through a post treatment carbon filter IF that.

    The amount of throw away plastics unnecessarily used in the last 30 yrs is astounding. Between just the water bottles and those K-cup or whatever they are called is ridiculous.

    my .02
  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 2,017
    edited March 2020
    tonyb wrote: »
    It's a PCR test. Polymerase Chain Reaction. It identifies strands of DNA unique to the particular virus.

    This is done in a lab, not the screening process. I still don't see what special test kit is needed because the lab has the equipment to go through the process described. So you can screen , take samples from 10k people, send it to the lab. Who's running all these tests, which takes some time ? I think that is where the bottleneck is. I'm not seeing any special piece of equipment needed or special kit because a lab has all this stuff to begin with. Plus, I'm not so sure other countries are identifying it correctly if they can cruise through thousands in a more timely fashion than we can.

    https://www.medicinenet.com/pcr_polymerase_chain_reaction/article.htm#what_is_pcr_polymerase_chain_reaction

    If you zoom in on the image below you can see that it says RT-PCR Panel (RUO). Labs may be able to do it, but until recently they did not have the legal authorization from the FDA to do so. That was just fast tracked through to cut through that red tape. As of today, Quest Diagnostics is allowed to do the testing, and probably others as well. I don't know what is this screening process you are referring to. This is the only way to test for coronavirus.

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  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 2,017
    The CDC bungled the distribution of the tests for a month and many of the kits they sent out had one of the reagents that was faulty. They didn't allow commercial labs to develop their own tests and made everyone wait for limited distribution of ones that turned out to be faulty. They didn't accept any tests from WHO also.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 14,783
    Do the tests require blood to be drawn?
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