The Harmless Un-reported Virus

marvda1
marvda1 Posts: 4,862
China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention estimated a fatality rate among coronavirus patients in mainland China — where COVID-19 first appeared in late 2019 — of about 2.3 percent as of Feb. 24.
Of more than 82,000 confirmed cases globally, Johns Hopkins reports about 2,800 have died.
None have been in the United States.
By comparison, the flu kills an estimated 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide every year, Maragakis said. Between 12,000 and 61,000 of those deaths occur in the U.S.
Here’s a breakdown of the numbers estimated by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this flu season:
Flu Illnesses 29 million
Flu Hospitalizations 280,000
Flu Deaths 16,000
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    I had thought we had a couple of deaths here from COVID-19 Marvin.
    At least one

    But yes a long long way from the flu strains.
  • Gardenstater
    Gardenstater Posts: 4,135
    edited March 2020
    The issue is the much higher death *rate* (2.3% vs 0.06% = 42 x higher) and the fact that the coronovirus is just getting started as far as the USA is concerned, but I'm stating the obvious here.....
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,862
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I had thought we had a couple of deaths here from COVID-19 Marvin.
    At least one

    But yes a long long way from the flu strains.

    one death in the us just reported.
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    2,800 of 82,000?? If that’s right that’s almost 3.5% although I keep reading 2.3% also.

    Many do die from the flu, however millions are infected each year. Last I saw the risk of dying from the flu was less than 1%

    I think covid-19 is much more dangerous. It just isn’t as widespread; thank goodness.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
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  • delkal
    delkal Posts: 764
    marvda1 wrote: »
    China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention estimated a fatality rate among coronavirus patients in mainland China — where COVID-19 first appeared in late 2019 — of about 2.3 percent as of Feb. 24.
    Of more than 82,000 confirmed cases globally, Johns Hopkins reports about 2,800 have died.
    None have been in the United States.
    By comparison, the flu kills an estimated 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide every year, Maragakis said. Between 12,000 and 61,000 of those deaths occur in the U.S.
    Here’s a breakdown of the numbers estimated by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention this flu season:
    Flu Illnesses 29 million
    Flu Hospitalizations 280,000
    Flu Deaths 16,000

    The death rate for coronavirus is MUCH lower. For every confirmed case there are hundreds (thousands?) of other people that got sick but didn't have to go to a hospital. They probably though they had a bad cold. Looking at the US flu stats if you have to be hospitalized for the flu you have a 5.7% chance of dying. And this is not a bad year for the flu.


  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Good post on this subject on the What’s Best forum.

    “Normal flu kills around 60K people each year. This is normal. There is nothing to hype about it. Normal flu's mortality rate is around 0.01%.

    So 60M have flu each year and 60K dies. No need to panic if you already have normal precautions.

    Coronovirus has mortality rate of 3 to 6%. It is as contagious as normal flu.

    Let's do the math now.

    If you do not hype, take extraordinary precautions and see it as a normal flu 60M people will have the Coronovirus this year in USA.

    AND 3M will die from it.

    So deaths caused by flu will rise from 60K to 3M. That is 3 million people meaning if you have 200 friends in your Facebook profile around 10 of them will be dead until the end of the year. It may be your son, father, coworker, best friend etc.

    That is EACH YEAR until a cure is found since the virus evolves very rapidly and it is said that recovery is not a guarantee for another episode.

    Take into account the medical system trying to deal with 60M near death patients.

    So there is no need to act like the world is over but we all have to take this Coronovirus threat very very very seriously. As Bill Gates says, this is some lethal virus that comes and goes ones in every century. It is definitely not your common flu.”

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    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/coronavirus.29969/page-19


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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,034
    edited March 2020
    BlueFox wrote: »

    So deaths caused by flu will rise from 60K to 3M. That is 3 million people meaning if you have 200 friends in your Facebook profile around 10 of them will be dead until the end of the year. It may be your son, father, coworker, best friend etc.

    I'm happy to know that being dead from this virus lasts only until the end of the year, unless they wake up as zombies.
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,892
    edited March 2020
    Another interesting fact about this COVID-19 virus is that 1% of it's genome can evolve/change in a 24hour period.
    As a comparison in humans it would take 30 million years for the same 1% evolution of the genome.
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  • scubalab
    scubalab Posts: 3,101
    Math check, nothing else...

    60k out of 60M is 0.1%, not 0.01%
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    Another interesting fact about this COVID-19 virus is that 1% of it's genome can evolve/change in a 24hour period.
    As a comparison in humans it would take 30 million years for the same 1% evolution of the genome.

    Not so sure that's factually correct. By that theory, your saying the human genome hasn't evolved 1% since we were apes. Could explain my penchant for bannanas though.
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  • motorhead43026
    motorhead43026 Posts: 3,892
    edited March 2020
    ^^ Apes diverged from other mammals some 90M years ago. There is a 3.1% difference in our genome vs apes.
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  • audioluvr
    audioluvr Posts: 5,420
    Yes but a 1% difference in genome is like going from some small furry rodent to Steve Jobs
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 10,862
    BlueFox wrote: »

    So deaths caused by flu will rise from 60K to 3M. That is 3 million people meaning if you have 200 friends in your Facebook profile around 10 of them will be dead until the end of the year. It may be your son, father, coworker, best friend etc.

    I'm happy to know that being dead from this virus lasts only until the end of the year, unless they wake up as zombies.

    Or after the year you come back to life as you were.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    If I die from the Cronavirus, I want to come back at the end of the year as AOC so I can be smarts.

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  • txcoastal1
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,034
    treitz3 wrote: »
    If I die from the Cronavirus, I want to come back at the end of the year as AOC so I can be smarts.

    Tom
    Uhm... that would like, require a 50 percent evolvement of your DNA to get that smart. Besides, with your looks, you would likely only get to come back as Rosie O’Donnell. :p
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    I want be smarts like whale too.

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    Tom,, please disinfect the Dodd before you ship it to me
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