Emm Labs TSDx can’t read discs - what a way to end the year

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    edited January 2020
    Ok, I found a good pic of the transport. Removing the silver disc will not access the pickup. You have to remove the entire top cover. There are 2 screws on each side, see crudely circled areas.

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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Yeah or, you know, the manufacturer could stand behind their $17k transport and fix it themselves.

    The real question is why spend $17K on a CD transport.

    I'm sorry Bud but that is an insulting question coming from someone who has (for some of us) a retirement portfolio's worth they sit in front of and listen to. Your wires cost more than many's whole system
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    Maybe, but I haven’t spent $17K on a CD transport.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Maybe, but I haven’t spent $17K on a CD transport.

    You should.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    LOL. Not is this lifetime. :)
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    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

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    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • Malbec
    Malbec Posts: 548
    F1nut wrote: »
    Ok, I found a good pic of the transport. Removing the silver disc will not access the pickup. You have to remove the entire top cover. There are 2 screws on each side, see crudely circled areas.

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    Beat me to it Jesse. Relatively straight forward.
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    I had my old friend apart last summer cleaning the lens and transport.
    Ended up shipping it cross country and having the transport replaced.
    Removing the tray is easy peasy too.





  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    Did the cleaning not help?
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Contacted Emm

    They said try cd cleaner

    Bought from Amazon and waited a week for delivery.

    Nada. No worky.

    Which CD cleaner did you get? I need to get one, just in case.
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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,623
    edited January 2020
    Verb, I don’t think they work all that well.

    I would use the process that F1 laid out, with the Q-Tip and alcohol.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    FWIW, those lens cleaning CD's have never worked on any CDP I used them on. Used one cheap one and one that was rather expensive with solution back in the day. 80% of the time, the Q-tip and alcohol worked for mine. (gently!)

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Thanks guys. That's what I gleaned from other threads as well. Just curious which ones have you tried Tom?
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    It's been so long ago, I would be lying if I tried to tell you. The only thing I remember was the cost for one was around ten bucks and the other one was around 35-40 bucks IIRC.

    Both were given away to friends. Both were trash. That much I do remember.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    treitz3 wrote: »
    It's been so long ago, I would be lying if I tried to tell you. The only thing I remember was the cost for one was around ten bucks and the other one was around 35-40 bucks IIRC.

    Both were given away to friends. Both were trash. That much I do remember.

    Tom

    No worries Tom. Gotta laugh though, trash, giving to friends. lol! :smile:
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    One man's trash is another man's treasure.

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,084
    daddyjt wrote: »
    I personally am willing to jump through a few hoops to avoid shipping audio gear. I hate shipping - it’s always a crap-shoot, and can create problems far greater than the one you are trying to fix.

    Totally agree
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  • Malbec
    Malbec Posts: 548
    F1nut wrote: »
    Did the cleaning not help?

    No.
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,505
    edited January 2020
    Thanks for the posts guys.

    1. Top cover has no screws, it appears to be a fitted cover of sorts.
    2. Thx for the internal pics, it does look well made. I probably have no shot of actually opening the unit and doing my own fix.
    3. Emm would like it shipped to their factory, I'm expecting a significant transport cost for replacement (ugh)
    4. Doubt it's 17K.

    Still, I'm still enjoying my system almost nightly (and even during the day sometimes). My wife came home yesterday morning after dropping the kids off at school, I figured I had an hour to myself so I listened in my room. She thought the neighbors were blasting their music when she came back so she was about to call the HOA, only to find out it was her husband at fault. Hehehe

    Atleast the DAC is separate and works well thus far.

    I am running a streamer into the DAC and enjoying Tidal.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    The screws for the top cover are on the bottom side. Turn it upside down to access.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,034
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Thanks for the posts guys.


    Thx for the internal pics, it does look well made. I probably have no shot of actually opening the unit and doing my own fix.


    A surgeon that can't handle a screwdriver... :p;)
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  • halen
    halen Posts: 675
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Thanks for the posts guys.

    1. Top cover has no screws, it appears to be a fitted cover of sorts.
    2. Thx for the internal pics, it does look well made. I probably have no shot of actually opening the unit and doing my own fix.
    3. Emm would like it shipped to their factory, I'm expecting a significant transport cost for replacement (ugh)
    4. Doubt it's 17K.

    Still, I'm still enjoying my system almost nightly (and even during the day sometimes). My wife came home yesterday morning after dropping the kids off at school, I figured I had an hour to myself so I listened in my room. She thought the neighbors were blasting their music when she came back so she was about to call the HOA, only to find out it was her husband at fault. Hehehe

    Atleast the DAC is separate and works well thus far.

    I am running a streamer into the DAC and enjoying Tidal.

    4. It costs $500. Do you accept Zelle? I will pick it up myself, no shipping required. Hehe

    Hope it gets back in working order soon man.

    Cheers.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,926
    Joey_V wrote: »
    Thanks for the posts guys.


    Thx for the internal pics, it does look well made. I probably have no shot of actually opening the unit and doing my own fix.


    A surgeon that can't handle a screwdriver... :p;)

    I think it's only the orthopedic surgeons that do screws and stuff.

    :|
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,505
    Psh.

    Carpenters.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,230
    So, what is the current status of the unit, Joey?

    Tom
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,505
    I despise Mr Biron
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    Joey_V wrote: »
    I despise Mr Biron

    One day, we will meet, and your heart will melt. <3

    Because I set fire to it!!!
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!