Cable Lifters..... sound improvement?...Looks!....Price!

marvda1
marvda1 Posts: 4,862
Picked up a set of these. not getting into if they make a difference in sound but I like the looks and price.
these are versatile as it takes ribbon cables, single cable and dual cables.
I got the upgraded ones as they are a heavier for carpet but intended for wood or tile floors.
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lis9g314-custom-made-cable-elevators-set-of-10-tweaks
Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Puritan PSM156

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  • BjornB17
    BjornB17 Posts: 752
    lol
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  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    I'm sure plenty will opine on the sonic improvements, but I gotta tell ya, love the looks! I'm struggling a bit with cable management, drives me crazy! :)
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,706
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,517
    They look cool! Wonder if I could get my buddy to 3D print me some :).....
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,034
    The trouble I see with these is the material they are made from. Plastic and static electricity seem to go hand in hand.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,350
    edited October 2019
    marvda1 wrote: »
    Picked up a set of these....

    I had those but my speaker cables were a tad too thick. I checked dimensions and knew it would be close, but I was wrong. I had a karma drawing at an audio get together and a polk forum member has them now.

    I like the design as I could of elevated and separated my two pairs of speaker cables, power cable to amp and IC's to amp off the floor. Much easier to clean the hardwood floor.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 24,474
    I gave them to a friend as my cables were also too large.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    I have both Shunyata and F1nut’s cable lifters. Not sure if they improve the sound, but I like getting the cables of the floor.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,706
    I make no claims about improving the sound. Mine are strictly for organization, looks and getting the cables off the floor.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,862
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    I gave them to a friend as my cables were also too large.

    he said he could make them larger.
    Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
    Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
    Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
    Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
    Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
    Speaker Cables: Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
    Interconnects: Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
    Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
    Puritan PSM156
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 32,926
    edited October 2019
    I would just like to go on record by saying that I don't believe that gentlemen should discuss the girth, nor the length, nor even the massiveness of their own cables in a public forum.

    B)

  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 6,646
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I would just like to go on record by saying that I don't believe that gentlemen should discuss the girth, nor the length, nor even the massiveness of their own cables in a public forum.

    B)

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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,042
    Where is that dog looking? Straight ahead? Left? Right? Nobody knows.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,116
    marvda1 wrote: »
    Picked up a set of these. not getting into if they make a difference in sound but I like the looks and price.

    Those do look pretty cool!

    This is what I use, got 'em free from my local power company....

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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 6,646
    Nightfall wrote: »
    Where is that dog looking? Straight ahead? Left? Right? Nobody knows.

    Within you and without you.

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  • Deltadon
    Deltadon Posts: 94
    edited October 2019
    Geoff4rfc wrote: »
    marvda1 wrote: »
    Picked up a set of these. not getting into if they make a difference in sound but I like the looks and price.

    Those do look pretty cool!

    This is what I use, got 'em free from my local power company....

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    They look similar to the ones from Music Direct.

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    They make some impressive claims too. I haven't tried them, but this is what they say.
    Elevate Your Musical Experience with the Best Selling Cable Supports on the Market
    Get your cables off the floor and improve the performance of your system with Cable Elevators. Use Cable Elevators to support long runs of interconnects, power cords and speaker cables for huge improvements in detail, focus and dynamics. Creating an instantly noticeable and undeniable audible improvement, Cable Elevators are one of our all-time, best-selling, most effective accessories we sell. 100% Money Back Guaranteed!

    "The damn things do lower noise, increase dynamics, remove haze, and open up the top octaves. Once you listen to their effects, even a skeptic like me has to admit that it is hard to take them back out of the system. Music sounds more like music with the Cable Elevators in place. I recommend them strongly, especially given their price!"
    – Jonathan Valin, The Absolute Sound, Editor's Choice Award Winners

    What Are Cable Elevators?
    Cable Elevators are designed to suspend cables eliminating interference from boundaries. Produced by a leading manufacturer of porcelain isolators, Cable Elevators are coated with a non-conductive glaze to reduce noise and affixed with a special non-slip foot for added stability when used with today's heavier cables.

    How Do Cable Elevators Work?
    Regardless of make or model, all cables create some form of electrical field around them. In free air, the field is a roughly cylindrical shape around the girth of the cable. However, when cables are placed on a boundary, such as a floor, the field becomes compressed, distorting the signal. Cable Elevators restore this field by raising the cable up, allowing the cable to deliver an undistorted signal. Cable Elevators are electrically inert, so they won't cause phase issues and because of their physical mass, Cable Elevators are able to provide a small measure of resonance damping on longer runs.

    What Will I Hear?
    Unlike some audiophile tweaks which require "golden ears" to appreciate or a "magic decoder ring" to use, Cable Elevators are easy to use, require no burn-in time and have an immediate effect on the system. Even in a modest system, the first and most noticeable improvement is in the midrange; it's as if the system took a decongestant. Improvements in midrange clarity, bloom, presence, smoothness and coherency are instantly noticeable. After the shock of this improvement settles in, the next most noticeable improvement is in the treble, with greater air, extension, space and sweetness. Bass also becomes tauter, tighter, deeper and more defined. Imaging and soundstaging are also greatly improved, revealing more depth and nuance from every recording.

    How Many Do I Need?
    This is a tough question, because it's so system dependent. How many cables in your system touch the floor, how far do they run on the floor, how heavy or light are they? The easiest answer is, we recommend using one Cable Elevator for every 2-3Ft a cable runs on the floor. Thus, a 6Ft pair of speaker wire with 4Ft on the floor, would require 2 Cable Elevators per side. If you have questions about how to use Cable Elevators or would like advice on a particular system configuration, please don't hesitate to call us!

    Cable Elevators are an easy to use, affordable tweak which greatly enhances the sonic performance of your entire system. Try a set risk-free with our 100% Money Back Guarantee!

    Each Cable Elevator is approximately 4-7/8'' in diameter and 4'' tall, and weighs approximately 3 lbs."

    Does anyone else have any experience with these?
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,517
    @Geoff4rfc

    I’ve been looking for those lol.......
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,116
    Deltadon wrote: »

    They look similar to the ones from Music Direct.


    They make some impressive claims too. I haven't tried them, but this is what they say.


    Does anyone else have any experience with these?

    I've had these for a year or so. All I know is that they do a great job of keeping the cables off of the floor :)
    @Geoff4rfc

    I’ve been looking for those lol.......

    Hey Danny, how'ya been man?

    These are legit right off the side of the road. I approached the power company working one day and asked.....they looked a bit puzzled when I told them my intentions, but they said, "sure, why not".

    They had been exposed to the elements for God knows how long but as you can see, they cleaned up nicely.

    Those are a pair (from my pics) of 10g Furez cables from Doug, so you know how thick they are....and "here you go" is about as good as the price gets :)

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  • kharp1
    kharp1 Posts: 3,453
    I'm not sure of any sonic improvement, but, I have to believe getting them off the floor has to eliminate some of the static. I like the looks, so, I'll just go with that.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,902
    I've tried those ceramic cable lifters before, didn't care for them. Why ? While they looked cool and all that, thought they made the sound a tad thinner sounding. That's just my experience with one certain set, yours may differ.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,517
    Geoff4rfc wrote: »
    These are legit right off the side of the road. I approached the power company working one day and asked.....they looked a bit puzzled when I told them my intentions, but they said, "sure, why not".

    They had been exposed to the elements for God knows how long but as you can see, they cleaned up nicely.

    Those are a pair (from my pics) of 10g Furez cables from Doug, so you know how thick they are....and "here you go" is about as good as the price gets :)
    kharp1 wrote: »
    I'm not sure of any sonic improvement, but, I have to believe getting them off the floor has to eliminate some of the static. I like the looks, so, I'll just go with that.

    Thats more what I like about em, the looks and getting the cable off the floor.....
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    I ran my cables under the floor, can't say I heard a difference over on the floor...

    The cable risers look neat though
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