Klipsch Cornwall IV is a-comin' (?!)

mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,108
Klipsch is introducing a new and improved :) Cornwall (Cornwall IV) at RMAF.

https://www.klipsch.com/products/cornwall-iv-floorstanding-speaker

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please note -- this post is meant to be 100% snark-free. This version of the Cornwall looks interesting for folks interested in current-production, high sensitivity loudspeakers.

:)
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 17,080
    Wait wasn't the older versions passive radiator design?
  • Rick88Rick88 Posts: 13,189
    edited August 2019
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Wait wasn't the older versions passive radiator design?

    No, that was/is the Forte & Chorus.
    "Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music." ~ Ronald Reagan

    “I love songs about horses, railroads, land, Judgment Day, family, hard times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder, war, prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor, piety, rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness, heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God.” ~ Johnny Cash




  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 17,080
    Ok thanks rick.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,108
    edited August 2019
    Rick88 wrote: »
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Wait wasn't the older versions passive radiator design?

    No, that was/is the Forte & Chorus.

    Check. The Corny uses a 15 inch woofer in a bass reflex alignment. Pretty prodigious bass (at least the originals) and close to 100 dB sensitivity. Cannot vouch for the real sensitivity of the III (much less the IV), but there's hope that the new IV won't be as ear-gouging as the I and II were. I've yet to hear a III (full disclosure).

  • Rick88Rick88 Posts: 13,189
    Those tick all the right boxes for me, except the price.

    I once owned a pair of Chorus II's with the Crites upgrade. I miss them.
    "Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music." ~ Ronald Reagan

    “I love songs about horses, railroads, land, Judgment Day, family, hard times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder, war, prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor, piety, rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness, heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God.” ~ Johnny Cash




  • Rick88Rick88 Posts: 13,189
    I also had a pair of Heresy III's, and did not find them bright either.
    "Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music." ~ Ronald Reagan

    “I love songs about horses, railroads, land, Judgment Day, family, hard times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder, war, prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor, piety, rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness, heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God.” ~ Johnny Cash




  • gyosagyosa Posts: 435
    I had KG4’s for 30 years .... never liked the horn tweeters .....

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 17,080
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Klipsch is introducing a new and improved :) Cornwall (Cornwall IV) at RMAF.

    https://www.klipsch.com/products/cornwall-iv-floorstanding-speaker

    ymdf3vdkyash.png

    neso71b4vgn2.png


    please note -- this post is meant to be 100% snark-free. This version of the Cornwall looks interesting for folks interested in current-production, high sensitivity loudspeakers.

    :)
    34Hz +/- 4 dB? No thanks! Not enough bass. When will companies move away from old refrigerator box designs of the past? Open baffle is where it’s at! ;)

    Just in case you haven't figured it out, old is new again. Companies go where the money is and in the last few years JBL and others are revamping their older designs with modern technology and folks are buying. You're free to design your own place them in the market and see where it goes. There were very few open baffle designs at the last two huge audio shows i attended.
  • Rick88Rick88 Posts: 13,189
    edited August 2019
    I missed many things and people during my 15 months away from the forum, but I can tell you one thing I did not miss, people like him.

    To LOL the original post was unnecessary and douchey.
    "Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music." ~ Ronald Reagan

    “I love songs about horses, railroads, land, Judgment Day, family, hard times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder, war, prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor, piety, rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness, heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God.” ~ Johnny Cash




  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 17,080
    Rick he has been "trolling" self admitted by himself.
  • Rick88Rick88 Posts: 13,189
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Rick he has been "trolling" self admitted by himself.

    Yeah I've seen his trouble making posts, he won't likely be around long.
    "Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music." ~ Ronald Reagan

    “I love songs about horses, railroads, land, Judgment Day, family, hard times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder, war, prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor, piety, rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness, heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God.” ~ Johnny Cash




  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,953
    Rick88 wrote: »
    I missed many things and people during my 15 months away from the forum, but I can tell you one thing I did not miss, people like him.

    To LOL the original post was unnecessary and douchey.
    I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with my criticism toward a company that makes speakers the size of refrigerators. If you don't like my opinion, ignore me. Why is that so difficult? Is this thread supposed to be about jerking each other off? Look at Audiokarma. They have tons of criticism about new McIntosh gear. People seem fine. Look, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but people don't always agree with everything you like. I have a feeling the internet may not be a good place for you...

    Since you're having such a hard time getting along with...well, everyone here a good look in your mirror will give you the answer as to what the problem is. If you are of the opinion that you are unable to change your attitude perhaps it would be best to find others more in line with your character traits.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • Rick88Rick88 Posts: 13,189
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    Rick he has been "trolling" self admitted by himself.
    Just because I made a sarcastic remark about the S60s doesn't mean every post I make is considered "trolling".

    Don't forget these:




    "All this talk about SDA makes me want to puke. Speaker technology has improved since then, get over it."

    "I don't let other people decide my own happiness. I've tried many flagship vintage speakers that cost $10,000-$20,000 and every single one of them sounded like a-s-s compared to $900+ modern Polk speakers. Luckily I was able to get my money back. In my opinion, many people buy into the "old speakers are better" hype and get stuck in the past."

    "Of course, when I speak my opinion, some jack-a-s-s has to say I'm a troll. Not surprised. A lot of audiophiles get defensive when someone questions their belief system. Had I known this was a circle jerk thread for SDA speakers, I would've kept to myself."

    "Please do tell, how am I being a troll? I've spent more money on loudspeakers than you will in your entire life. I've tried brands from all kinds. Just because my observation doesn't align with yours doesn't make me a troll, but someone who has a lot of experience with loudspeaker systems."

    "If you have nothing left to say on the matter, the best way to back out is to NOT POST AT ALL.

    "Ooh, look at me, I'm posting to say you're too stupid to keep talking to! Aren't I clever? +1 post!"
    "Life is one grand, sweet song, so start the music." ~ Ronald Reagan

    “I love songs about horses, railroads, land, Judgment Day, family, hard times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder, war, prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor, piety, rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness, heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God.” ~ Johnny Cash




  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,862
    ^^^Game, Set, and Match.
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  • NightfallNightfall Posts: 9,204
    Do Klipsch image well?
    afterburnt wrote: »
    They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.

    Village Idiot of Club Polk
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,862
    Your mileage may vary, but IMHO... no.
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    I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,108
    edited August 2019
    Nightfall wrote: »
    Do Klipsch image well?

    Better than you might expect :)
    On paper, everything about the design is wrong (i.e., diffraction is, at least formally, a problem with them) -- but the Cornies I had did OK. And, yes, I had them in the corners.

    B)

  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,390
    edited September 2019
    I have heard the 2's and 3's. 3's where much smoother. I am interested in the 4's. I wonder how much smoother they will get.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,108
    The 2s are profoundly not smooth. one hopes that the 4s are much smoother than the 2s and at least incrementally better than the 3s, I would say.
  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,390
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    The 2s are profoundly not smooth. one hopes that the 4s are much smoother than the 2s and at least incrementally better than the 3s, I would say.

    Agree. 2 was not smooth at all. The 3's were suprising smoother on top i thought and better midrange.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 26,108
    early Cornwalls can be used with medium/high powered early solid state amplifiers as an environmentally responsible. chemical-free way to remove paint.

    b)
  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,617
    F1nut wrote: »
    Rick88 wrote: »
    I missed many things and people during my 15 months away from the forum, but I can tell you one thing I did not miss, people like him.

    To LOL the original post was unnecessary and douchey.
    I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with my criticism toward a company that makes speakers the size of refrigerators. If you don't like my opinion, ignore me. Why is that so difficult? Is this thread supposed to be about jerking each other off? Look at Audiokarma. They have tons of criticism about new McIntosh gear. People seem fine. Look, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but people don't always agree with everything you like. I have a feeling the internet may not be a good place for you...

    Since you're having such a hard time getting along with...well, everyone here a good look in your mirror will give you the answer as to what the problem is. If you are of the opinion that you are unable to change your attitude perhaps it would be best to find others more in line with your character traits.

    He is stating his opinion.
    IF you can not handle people that think differently than you just Ignore them.

    Instead of cluttering the forum with nonsense, bickering and trying to force people out of the forum.

    Many on the forum do not care for your attitude, and Ignore you, and it works great.

    Have a great day!




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  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,617
    Rick88 wrote: »
    I also had a pair of Heresy III's, and did not find them bright either.

    We owned some Heresy's also, (late 80s version) they were great on some music, but found our Polks (most of them) simply a bit smoother to listen to long term.

    Hard to beat the efficiency and clarity though!
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,862
    edited September 2019
    wrote:
    K_M wrote: »



    You cannot read posts by K_M because they are on your ignore list.


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    I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.” .

    “If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.”
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    edited September 2019
    K_M wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Rick88 wrote: »
    I missed many things and people during my 15 months away from the forum, but I can tell you one thing I did not miss, people like him.

    To LOL the original post was unnecessary and douchey.
    I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with my criticism toward a company that makes speakers the size of refrigerators. If you don't like my opinion, ignore me. Why is that so difficult? Is this thread supposed to be about jerking each other off? Look at Audiokarma. They have tons of criticism about new McIntosh gear. People seem fine. Look, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but people don't always agree with everything you like. I have a feeling the internet may not be a good place for you...

    Since you're having such a hard time getting along with...well, everyone here a good look in your mirror will give you the answer as to what the problem is. If you are of the opinion that you are unable to change your attitude perhaps it would be best to find others more in line with your character traits.

    He is stating his opinion.
    IF you can not handle people that think differently than you just Ignore them.

    Instead of cluttering the forum with nonsense, bickering and trying to force people out of the forum.

    Many on the forum do not care for your attitude, and Ignore you, and it works great.

    Have a great day!




    Yet, there are many that do love his opinions. Jesse has been a pillar of this community as well as being a huge help on many levels technically. The troll in question, PolkAudioJoJo, who had 59 posts as of this thread, not so much. As pointed out, many of his 59 posts are mired in rancor. Basically Troll mentality. I'm firmly in Jesse's corner on this one.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,953
    K_M wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Rick88 wrote: »
    I missed many things and people during my 15 months away from the forum, but I can tell you one thing I did not miss, people like him.

    To LOL the original post was unnecessary and douchey.
    I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with my criticism toward a company that makes speakers the size of refrigerators. If you don't like my opinion, ignore me. Why is that so difficult? Is this thread supposed to be about jerking each other off? Look at Audiokarma. They have tons of criticism about new McIntosh gear. People seem fine. Look, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but people don't always agree with everything you like. I have a feeling the internet may not be a good place for you...

    Since you're having such a hard time getting along with...well, everyone here a good look in your mirror will give you the answer as to what the problem is. If you are of the opinion that you are unable to change your attitude perhaps it would be best to find others more in line with your character traits.

    He is stating his opinion.
    IF you can not handle people that think differently than you just Ignore them.

    Instead of cluttering the forum with nonsense, bickering and trying to force people out of the forum.

    Many on the forum do not care for your attitude, and Ignore you, and it works great.

    Have a great day!




    Funny, could have sworn you recently stated you had me on ignore. It's alright though, I know you have trouble with the truth.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • verbverb Posts: 10,235
    So just read this thread Mark. The speakers look very interesting for sure.

    BTW, so much for this thread being a snark free zone! :)
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    Of the 42,000+ posts of F1nut's, very few are troll material. Most of PAJJ's are, or, are borderline. Not a good record.
  • K_MK_M Posts: 1,617
    kharp1 wrote: »
    K_M wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Rick88 wrote: »
    I missed many things and people during my 15 months away from the forum, but I can tell you one thing I did not miss, people like him.

    To LOL the original post was unnecessary and douchey.
    I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with my criticism toward a company that makes speakers the size of refrigerators. If you don't like my opinion, ignore me. Why is that so difficult? Is this thread supposed to be about jerking each other off? Look at Audiokarma. They have tons of criticism about new McIntosh gear. People seem fine. Look, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but people don't always agree with everything you like. I have a feeling the internet may not be a good place for you...

    Since you're having such a hard time getting along with...well, everyone here a good look in your mirror will give you the answer as to what the problem is. If you are of the opinion that you are unable to change your attitude perhaps it would be best to find others more in line with your character traits.

    He is stating his opinion.
    IF you can not handle people that think differently than you just Ignore them.

    Instead of cluttering the forum with nonsense, bickering and trying to force people out of the forum.

    Many on the forum do not care for your attitude, and Ignore you, and it works great.

    Have a great day!




    Yet, there are many that do love his opinions. Jesse has been a pillar of this community as well as being a huge help on many levels technically. The troll in question, PolkAudioJoJo, who had 59 posts as of this thread, not so much. As pointed out, many of his 59 posts are mired in rancor. Basically Troll mentality. I'm firmly in Jesse's corner on this one.

    I agree Jesse does have a lot of good input, but we can not treat members on
    the forum as "trolls" either.

    I sincerely do not see him as a troll at all. all forums have differing views, and they can coexist side by side.
    I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and hopefully keep people on the forum.
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    Harman Kardon Hk-........
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    I agree, for the most part, however, apparently he has a previous history, along with the bulk of his current posts being of the antagonistic kind. I can live without that, perhaps you can't.
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