Sound United to buy Onkyo and Pioneer

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F1nut
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The empire grows. https://www.twice.com/product/sound-united-to-acquire-onkyo-corp-s-consumer-audio-division
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,092
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    Get ready for a Pioneer Elite sound bar with Alexa built in...
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,027
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    on the bright side -- Schiit still floats I mean, is still independent.

    :|
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  • Clipdat
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    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    on the bright side -- Schiit still floats I mean, is still independent.

    :|

    "We'll always have Paris!" :lol:
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  • smglbrth
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    Kind of makes you wonder who/what will be cut from the bottom line...
    Remember, when you're running from something, you're running to something...-me
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,027
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    Clipdat wrote: »
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    on the bright side -- Schiit still floats I mean, is still independent.

    :|

    "We'll always have Paris!" :lol:
    :)

    I was thinking (also) of John Adams last words:
    Thomas Jefferson still survives.

    July 4, 1826 -- exactly 50 years after the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/what-were-john-adams-last-words-103946

    (... and Jefferson actually predeceased Adams, albeit only by hours!)
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  • xschop
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    So my Onkyo will soon sound like my Pioneer?
    Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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  • EndersShadow
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    F1nut wrote: »
    The empire grows. https://www.twice.com/product/sound-united-to-acquire-onkyo-corp-s-consumer-audio-division

    HA, beat you to the punch this morning, just not as obvious in the title hehehehe.....

    Not many players left outside Yamaha in the low to mid entry AVR's.....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • tophatjohnny
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    New brand on the way. Polkonkanier with Denon SU control. It's gonna be hot. Has me rethinking getting the Vega G2!!!😂😄🎩
    "if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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  • mhardy6647
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    tophatjohnny wrote: »
    New brand on the way. Polkonkanier with Denon SU control. It's gonna be hot. Has me rethinking getting the Vega G2!!!😂😄🎩

    Polkonanier sounds like some kind of high-tech, must-have cycling accessory -- or maybe something used by the top-flight rock wall climbers.

    :|
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  • halo
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    Is Frank Malitz involved in this? They sure could use his experience salesmanship
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  • pitdogg2
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    Shakes head and laughs
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  • kharp1
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    The gods said there shall be ONE mid-fi company. It will have mediocre sound and will come to be loved by all.
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  • cfrizz
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    Is Rotel independent?
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • Clipdat
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    cfrizz wrote: »
    Is Rotel independent?

    Nope. Part of B&W Group.
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  • Mikey081057
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    They will undoubtedly be thinning the herd
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

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  • mrloren
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    Gee what's left for the in the general market? Yamaha and Sony?
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
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  • GlennDog
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    cfrizz wrote: »
    Is Rotel independent?

    If I may be so bold . . . Are there any US independents left?
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  • VR3
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    Pass labs??
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • nooshinjohn
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    Pass is owned by somebody but I will be damned if I can remember who.
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  • VR3
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    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Pass is owned by somebody but I will be damned if I can remember who.

    Are you sure??
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,092
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    I might be thinking of Krell...
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  • VR3
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    Gotcha, yeah I am almost positive pass labs is independent as well as Parasound
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Strong Bad
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    Bose is independent...right? Yeah I know, who cares.
    No excuses!
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  • mrloren
    mrloren Posts: 2,454
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    Strong Bad wrote: »
    Bose is independent...right? Yeah I know, who cares.

    Is that even an audio company or is it a marketing company.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
    Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
    Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
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  • BlueFox
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    These budget manufacturers are just consolidating. Nothing major here. There will always be independent, high end manufacturers for stereo gear. Also, Pass is solely independent at this time. When Nelson retires then all bets are off.
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  • kharp1
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    BlueFox wrote: »
    These budget manufacturers are just consolidating. Nothing major here. There will always be independent, high end manufacturers for stereo gear. Also, Pass is solely independent at this time. When Nelson retires then all bets are off.

    Agree, often times it's out of these mass moves that someone breaks away to start their own company to fill a need.
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  • heiney9
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    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I might be thinking of Krell...

    Pass Labs is owned by Nelson Pass and IIRC, another partner or two. Definitely still independent.

    H9

    P.s. I know a group bought Aragon and were going to try and resurrect it and maybe Krell too.

    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • xschop
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    BlueFox wrote: »
    These budget manufacturers are just consolidating. Nothing major here. There will always be independent, high end manufacturers for stereo gear. Also, Pass is solely independent at this time. When Nelson retires then all bets are off.

    By then, you'll be able to sample your favorite roast via your new Keurig equipped, Alexa enabled, mid-fi conglomerated "sound" bar.
    Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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  • shadowlight
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    This basically leaves 2 consumer focused companies left for receiver market - Yamaha and Sound United (Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, Pioneer, Integra)
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,528
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    heiney9 wrote: »
    P.s. I know a group bought Aragon and were going to try and resurrect it and maybe Krell too.

    Is this group different than the indyaudiolabs folks (formerly Klipsh employees)?

    Looks like they still own Aragon and Acurus.... nothing on Krell.....

    And both Aragon and Acurus dont have a lot out in what most consumers would call low-mid avr range....

    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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