Zero Fidelity Reviews the Buchardt S400

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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,966
    They are coming around nicely. The peaky issue has smoothed out. However, they are still not fully cooked, so I'm not ready to give my final thoughts. I noted a comment on another forum from someone at AXPONA who stated they didn't have enough treble for him. I also noted he liked Klipsch, so that should tell you all you need to know.
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  • maxwardmaxward Posts: 402
    Thank you. There seems to be a good deal of interest in these.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,966
    edited April 13
    I'll say this much for now. Other than the peaky issue, which at this point seems to have been burn in related I am throughly impressed and it takes a lot to impress me.

    The one thing I don't like are the separate round grill covers. Should be a one piece job covering the entire front.
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  • halohalo Posts: 5,259
    F1nut wrote: »
    I'll say this much for now. Other than the peaky issue, which at this point seems to have been burn in related I am throughly impressed and it takes a lot to impress me.

    The one thing I don't like are the separate round grill covers. Should be a one piece job covering the entire front.

    I know that you listen with your eyes closed so, aside from the aesthetic issue, it's all good! ;) :D

    Glad you're digging the tunes man and thanks for letting us know :)
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,241
    edited April 13
    Heard them powered by the Parasound JC5 earlier this evening. They sounded very good. Very punchy and dynamic. Impressive bass. No harshness from the treble even at 90db.

    If I had to criticize them, I'd say it sounds like the treble is more "directional" than some speakers, meaning it sounded distinctly like it was coming from the lower portion of the speaker. Versus just the general area of the speaker, or from the area in between both speakers.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,966
    Just the opposite here, the treble just floats....doesn't matter if I'm sitting or standing it sounds the same.
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,241
    F1nut wrote: »
    Just the opposite here, the treble just floats....doesn't matter if I'm sitting or standing it sounds the same.

    Sounds like maybe it was the hotel room itself then. Thanks for that clarification/insight. I'm considering them amongst these:

    https://www.crutchfield.com/S-ev2XNhREYFb/p_405ALBBK/KLH-Albany-Black-Oak.html

    https://www.svsound.com/products/ultra-bookshelf

    https://thelsagroup.com/products/lsa-10-signature (special show price)
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • halohalo Posts: 5,259
    Clipdat wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Just the opposite here, the treble just floats....doesn't matter if I'm sitting or standing it sounds the same.

    Sounds like maybe it was the hotel room itself then. Thanks for that clarification/insight. I'm considering them amongst these:

    https://www.crutchfield.com/S-ev2XNhREYFb/p_405ALBBK/KLH-Albany-Black-Oak.html

    https://www.svsound.com/products/ultra-bookshelf

    https://thelsagroup.com/products/lsa-10-signature (special show price)

    Are you unhappy with the PSB bookies?

    Have you checked out the ProAc bookies?
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,966
    edited April 14
    Clipdat wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Just the opposite here, the treble just floats....doesn't matter if I'm sitting or standing it sounds the same.

    Sounds like maybe it was the hotel room itself then. Thanks for that clarification/insight. I'm considering them amongst these:

    https://www.crutchfield.com/S-ev2XNhREYFb/p_405ALBBK/KLH-Albany-Black-Oak.html

    https://www.svsound.com/products/ultra-bookshelf

    https://thelsagroup.com/products/lsa-10-signature (special show price)

    I noted Mike of Suncoast Audio/AudioShark said of the S400 at the show, "Great sound."
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  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 7,241
    halo wrote: »
    Are you unhappy with the PSB bookies?

    Have you checked out the ProAc bookies?

    PMC, not PSB. It's not that I am "unhappy" with them, but a different speaker may give me more of what I am "looking for" right now, specifically in terms of electronic music. It's too much to type out on my phone. Call/text me anytime Victor and we can go into it further.

    I'd love to hear ProAc. I'll look into local dealers.
    "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,966
    After trying a few things I've come to the conclusion that these have too much treble energy for my liking. The cure results in a slight loss of transparency, but they are more musical now and I value that aspect more than anything else. To be continued.....
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,966
    edited October 27
    I'd like to revisit this thread. I listened to the S400 Special Edition at my best friend's house Saturday afternoon. The SE is the same basic speaker as the standard version, but has upgraded crossovers utilizing Janzten caps, Superres 1% resistors and baked air core inductors.

    That said, I need to back track a bit on my previous comment in which I speculated that my issue with the standard version might have been a simple lack of synergy. I knew what the issue was, but at the time was reluctant to say for which I regret. The issue was the sound signature of the Dayton caps. Listening to the SE version confirmed that as they sounded fantastic with none of the peaky/shouty characteristics of the standard version. Buchardt only made 25 pair and sold out. I hope at some point they offer the SE version again because I want a pair. In fact, I think they should only offer the SE version from now on, it's that good.
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 23,456
    Sort of an aside, but sort of not: The Daytons can certainly be a little edgy -- but, for the price they're hard to beat for, e.g., perkin' up an Original Large Advent.

  • erniejadeerniejade Posts: 5,090
    Maybe they will offer to send them back for an upgrade?
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,966
    halo wrote: »
    Jesse,

    You could always “hot rod” them yourself. Especially with your track record and skill set!

    I thought about that when I had them here, but after peeking inside it seemed to me that the speaker cabinet is built around the crossover board meaning it looked darn near impossible to remove the board.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,966
    erniejade wrote: »
    Maybe they will offer to send them back for an upgrade?

    I had them on their 30 day buy and try. I returned them long ago.
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  • SCompRacerSCompRacer Posts: 7,191
    Thorton wrote: »

    That's personally one thing I like about his speakers. Every model I've heard put a smile on my face and I wouldn't mind putting money down on them. I can't say that about many other speaker brands.

    FWIW, the Salk SS8’s use the ScanSpeak Revelator 8” woofers with RAAL tweeter, Accuton midrange. The Salk Exotica bookies paired the SEAS Alnico woofer and tweeter. The Exotica 3 floor stander added a pair of Rythmik 8” powered servo woofers. Personally, I prefer the SS8’s as they are more of an all round speaker where some say the Exotica just excels with the soft stuff.
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