ELAC Carina Series Speakers by Andrew Jones at CES 2019

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New speakers by AJ & ELAC at CES 2019 featuring a AMT (JET) tweeter and downward firing bass port.

https://avsforum.com/elac-carina-series-jet-tweeter-speakers-andrew-jones-ces-2019/

https://youtu.be/WIR0z7byF9M
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
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    They seem to be doing very well (Elac) with the mid-fi reviewers. I am super happy with the Adante but am awaiting a phone call from either Chris or Andrew on Monday to discuss the QC issues I noted in the other thread.
    These look interesting for sure. Like a mini 705
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  • mhardy6647
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    downward firing port -- seems to limit placement options, no?
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  • joecoulson
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    No different than the 705/707’s, no?
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  • mhardy6647
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    joecoulson wrote: »
    No different than the 705/707’s, no?

    I don't know anything about those, sorry. If they're bottom-ported, I guess not. How do folks mount them? Bespoke stands?
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  • joecoulson
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    By the vid, looks like proprietary stands that have space at the back/bottom for the port. I’ll see if I can screenshot
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  • halo
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    @mhardy6647 - quite the opposite, bottom ported speakers are much easier to place in your listening environment.

    @joecoulson - that’s part of the base of the speaker. See the black ELAC badge at the bottom of the front of the speaker? I’m pretty sure that’s connected to the flat base under the speaker between the bass port and the base of the speaker.

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  • mhardy6647
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    Presumably they need to sit on something with a hole in it.
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  • SIHAB
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    I'm glad Doc asked. That was my wonderment as well.
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  • joecoulson
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    Not if I understand Victors details in regards to the base.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,049
    edited January 2019
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    Not that I am second guessing Andrew Jones :| but that doesn't seem like very much clearance if that is indeed the base of the loudspeaker (and not part of the stand).

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  • joecoulson
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    Check the base on the 705/707’s
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  • mhardy6647
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    joecoulson wrote: »
    Check the base on the 705/707’s

    Yeah, OK, I see your point. For some reason, I wasn't thinking of floorstanders. I am on some meds this weekend (in my defense) :/
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  • joecoulson
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    Lol. Meds are bad mmmkay (in the voice of Mr Garrison)
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  • halo
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    joecoulson wrote: »
    Lol. Drugs are bad mmmkay (in the voice of Mr Garrison)

    FIxed it for ya!

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  • Upstatemax
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    Bottom ported seem to not want a lot of space under the port...

    My Venere S speakers have bottom plate and spikes designed to maximize the bottom port and there is not a lot of room under the speaker.
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  • Upstatemax
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    From what I remember, it’s designed to interact with the floor/solid surface to produce the desired bass response.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,132
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    Upstatemax wrote: »
    Bottom ported seem to not want a lot of space under the port...

    My Venere S speakers have bottom plate and spikes designed to maximize the bottom port and there is not a lot of room under the speaker.

    What do you have them set on? Carpet, solid flooring, 1st or 2nd floor? Concrete or sub-floor?...sorry just curious. :)

    Do think it make placement easier or more difficult especially vs rear ported
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  • Upstatemax
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    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    What do you have them set on? Carpet, solid flooring, 1st or 2nd floor? Concrete or sub-floor?...sorry just curious. :)

    See my next post for flooring type.

    Solid 3/4” hickory. First floor (basement underneath).
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  • txcoastal1
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    Ha ha TY,
    (while I was typing)
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  • Upstatemax
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    I think placement is easier.

    From what I've experienced I will probably never buy a rear ported speaker again.

    I find it FAR easier to set up and place a bottom or front ported speaker. Less room interaction.
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  • joecoulson
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    I agree and take a step further. Sealed speakers with sealed sub FTW
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  • txcoastal1
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    My reported speakers like the Dyns have required more room tuning than the Usher MD1's which were front ported that's why I was curious

    Never noticed that you're Venre's were bottom ported..TY for the info
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  • Upstatemax
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    Yeah, the Venere S moved to bottom port while the rest of the Venere line is front ported.

    The Olympica line has a really cool "side" port.

    you can set them up to fire into the center of the room, or at the side of the room.

    I would love to try them in my home, I just don't want to pay for it!
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  • txcoastal1
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    joecoulson wrote: »
    I agree and take a step further. Sealed speakers with sealed sub FTW

    Hence another reason of questions. I've built/seen sealed speakers suck out on bass while on the 2nd floor. Were excellent on 1st floor concrete. These speakers were on stands and still suffered bass suck out.

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  • joecoulson
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    These speakers meaning which ones?

    I have a crawl space which I believe would be an in between of what you described. Having the bottom floor of the home but also having subfloor reverb.
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  • txcoastal1
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    joecoulson wrote: »
    These speakers meaning which ones?

    I have a crawl space which I believe would be an in between of what you described. Having the bottom floor of the home but also having subfloor reverb.

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  • joecoulson
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    Ah. Gotcha.

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  • Clipdat
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    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Not that I am second guessing Andrew Jones

    How dare you second guess Andrew Jones' designs!
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