Ceiling Speakers

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I’m new to ceiling surround sound. I have a pre wired setup in my new house and all I need is the speakers.
I have been looking at the M60 and the RC60i. What are the big differences in these 2 speakers?
Is it worth getting the bigger speakers and going with 8”?
I have been looking at the M60 and the RC60i. What are the big differences in these 2 speakers?
Is it worth getting the bigger speakers and going with 8”?
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Family Room:
Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
Main: Polk LsiM 705
Center: Polk LSiM 704C
Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
Surrounds: Polk S15
Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room;
Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
Main: Polk Signature S20
Center: Polk Signature S35
Rear: Polk R15
Sub: HSU STF-2
Working Warehouse;
Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
Old sony 12" Sub
Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
Family Room:
Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
Main: Polk LsiM 705
Center: Polk LSiM 704C
Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
Surrounds: Polk S15
Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room;
Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
Main: Polk Signature S20
Center: Polk Signature S35
Rear: Polk R15
Sub: HSU STF-2
Working Warehouse;
Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
Old sony 12" Sub
Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
They are part of the vanishing series....you did good
Enjoy
I know it's extra money...but these work great for the install....watch out for your studs, FYI I'm a pro installation company
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/994227-REG/labor_saving_devices_ls_dbhc10_10_adjustable_hole_cutter.html
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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I picked up a pair of those also. They sound very good for the price and are pretty easy to install. @txcoastal1 does this for a living so using that tool he linked to is a huge time saver and makes neat, perfect holes but, if your not doing that for a living and don't do 30 holes a week its a lot of money to plunk down on something you may never use again. I have a tasty solution to spending a hundred+ bucks.
Those speakers come with a cardboard template so as long as your between the joists 1) buy an 8"/10" apple pie from the market, 2) pencil in your circle with the template, 3) put a small slice with a razor in the center of the clear plastic pie lid and insert your drywall saw in that slit, 4) cut out your circle, 5)install your speakers with speaker wires connected, 6) then enjoy the heck out of that pie!! I kid you not it catches 98% of the mess and it does take longer. Either way enjoy your new speakers.
Parasound A23 amplifier
Parasound A23 amplifier
LG 65" Ultra HD4k
LG 4kBR - UP970
Denon DVM 4800
Denon DP 3000 turntable
Saec 308sx tonearm w/
Dynavector 10x5 cart
Vincent PHO 701 Phono Preamp
MIT Avt3 Speaker c's
Audio Quest Big Sur ic's
Polk SDA 1C's modded
Polk LSim 707
Polk LSiM706c
Polk RTiA 3's
Polk 80F/X-RT
Polk DSW PRO 440wi sub
Infinity bu2 sub
"The early Klingon gets the Gagh"
I am planning out the finishing of the basement in my new house and I have a good part dedicated to the HT and music area so I am looking for ceiling and “in wall” options.
I am going to do the same in the detached garage.
Those Polk 80f/x look pretty big. How is the sound so far? Would you recommend them?
Front - LsiM707, Front presence - LsiM703, Future ATMOS - VS 700LS
Center - LsiM706c, Rear surrounds - 80 F/X LS, VS 900LS. Sub - (pair) Klipsch R-12SW
AVR - Yamaha RX-A3010
AMP - NAD C275BEE
Main HT - LG 4K 75”, Sony UBXP800M2
Bedroom HT - LG 55" 4K, Philips BDP7501 4K UHD player , Yamaha SRT-1500 sound projector, Spare room HT LG 50” plasma, Yamaha BD-671
Office - Pioneer X-CM56, Bose iPod dock
In Storage - 4 - RTiA9, RtiA3, CSiA6, FXiA4, Blackstone TL1
The only source of knowledge is experience. Albert Einstein
They also make an in wall center channel in that series, But if you move the room around it makes it a pain in the buutt being in wall
You Really don’t want that center channel in the ceiling
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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These 80fx-rt's are pretty big. They require a 9 3/8 in. hole to be mounted. First movie for me was John Wick 4k Blu ray. The cemetery scene it was pouring rain and the sound switches to the atmos 80 fx polk speakers...surprisingly realistic sound. I am very happy with these speakers. They were a good purchase. Although i believe these speakers were meant for rear surrounds i decided to take the chance and use them for atmos speakers instead. Again very happy.
Parasound A23 amplifier
Parasound A23 amplifier
LG 65" Ultra HD4k
LG 4kBR - UP970
Denon DVM 4800
Denon DP 3000 turntable
Saec 308sx tonearm w/
Dynavector 10x5 cart
Vincent PHO 701 Phono Preamp
MIT Avt3 Speaker c's
Audio Quest Big Sur ic's
Polk SDA 1C's modded
Polk LSim 707
Polk LSiM706c
Polk RTiA 3's
Polk 80F/X-RT
Polk DSW PRO 440wi sub
Infinity bu2 sub
"The early Klingon gets the Gagh"
So if i understand your post you would like to use 7 in wall/ceiling speakers? I have read about and seen photos of folks with screens in there home using in wall speakers as the front L/R & Center. Is that what your talking about? Or
Something like this? see below, But all 7 speakers in wall/ceiling?
/\/\/\If that's what you choose to do i would guess you have to buy four pair. You could use all eight or save one as a spare.
ex: On my AVR when i choose to setup my speakers, when i get to the rear surrounds it asks if i have one or two speakers...so i guess you could go Front R/L & Center, Left & right surround, ONE rear surround channel & two left over for rear or middle atmos. There are many, many options. Lots of info here on the forum and online.
I think most folks here have floor standing speakers and do not go with all in wall/ceiling speakers. Also don't expect to get any chest pounding bass out of a 7 or 8 in wall/ceiling speaker setup. These speakers just wont do that. Hope this helps some and good luck!!
Parasound A23 amplifier
Parasound A23 amplifier
LG 65" Ultra HD4k
LG 4kBR - UP970
Denon DVM 4800
Denon DP 3000 turntable
Saec 308sx tonearm w/
Dynavector 10x5 cart
Vincent PHO 701 Phono Preamp
MIT Avt3 Speaker c's
Audio Quest Big Sur ic's
Polk SDA 1C's modded
Polk LSim 707
Polk LSiM706c
Polk RTiA 3's
Polk 80F/X-RT
Polk DSW PRO 440wi sub
Infinity bu2 sub
"The early Klingon gets the Gagh"
In-ceiling speakers for the fronts for the most part messes up the front stage. You will be looking forward and all the sound will be from above. Get some wall mountable bookshelf speakers like Signature S15 and a wall mountable S35 center. In the long run this will sound way better.
Family Room:
Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
Main: Polk LsiM 705
Center: Polk LSiM 704C
Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
Surrounds: Polk S15
Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room;
Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
Main: Polk Signature S20
Center: Polk Signature S35
Rear: Polk R15
Sub: HSU STF-2
Working Warehouse;
Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
Old sony 12" Sub
Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
Well i guess you have some decisions to make about how your going to proceed. I agree with @mrloren about the front stage sounding a bit off. You can keep the wiring in the walls for the speakers you do plan on using and start patching up some of those holes that you wont be using. A somewhat more conventional setup ( than all 7 speakers in the ceiling) will provide you with a much better and more enjoyable music and movie/tv experience.
Parasound A23 amplifier
Parasound A23 amplifier
LG 65" Ultra HD4k
LG 4kBR - UP970
Denon DVM 4800
Denon DP 3000 turntable
Saec 308sx tonearm w/
Dynavector 10x5 cart
Vincent PHO 701 Phono Preamp
MIT Avt3 Speaker c's
Audio Quest Big Sur ic's
Polk SDA 1C's modded
Polk LSim 707
Polk LSiM706c
Polk RTiA 3's
Polk 80F/X-RT
Polk DSW PRO 440wi sub
Infinity bu2 sub
"The early Klingon gets the Gagh"
Thing about ceiling speakers is ALL the sound coming from the top. Front stage and side surrounds are best lower closer to ear level.
Family Room:
Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
Main: Polk LsiM 705
Center: Polk LSiM 704C
Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
Surrounds: Polk S15
Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room;
Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
Main: Polk Signature S20
Center: Polk Signature S35
Rear: Polk R15
Sub: HSU STF-2
Working Warehouse;
Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
Old sony 12" Sub
Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
I had a regular onkyo 7.1 never dealt with ceiling speakers, but kind thought it would be the same.
I think my best bet would be to get a regular center channel with the front speakers. Use the 80fx for the side and rear in the ceiling and then 2 in the front ceiling for Atmos and hope it sounds good.
Ugh tough decision to get book shelf and a regular center or go the in wall route.
Family Room:
Samsung UN75RU710DFXZA,
Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva XPA3 GEN3
Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, WD Live HUB.
Main: Polk LsiM 705
Center: Polk LSiM 704C
Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
Surrounds: Polk S15
Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room;
Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
Main: Polk Signature S20
Center: Polk Signature S35
Rear: Polk R15
Sub: HSU STF-2
Working Warehouse;
Sony 2100ES AVR, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc
Cerwin Vega AT-12 (blasters) Advent Prodigy (listening)
Old sony 12" Sub
Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
Just decide how you want to go and how much you want to spend. The cables should be very easy to drop. You could run the front three or more down to one box ex;
https://www.amazon.com/Fosmon-2-Gang-Surround-Distribution-Theater/dp/B00KGK2VJC/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1547479355&sr=8-13&keywords=speaker+wall+plates
Its really how involved you want to get. If i read correctly its your house (not a rental) so try to plan and do it right the first time. It sucks having to redo something just because of a oh c rap moment. I have been there and done that. There is so many great folks on this forum just oozing with information. Actually to many to name but two or three above already responded...just pick their Brian and don't rush into doing something.
Have fun
Parasound A23 amplifier
Parasound A23 amplifier
LG 65" Ultra HD4k
LG 4kBR - UP970
Denon DVM 4800
Denon DP 3000 turntable
Saec 308sx tonearm w/
Dynavector 10x5 cart
Vincent PHO 701 Phono Preamp
MIT Avt3 Speaker c's
Audio Quest Big Sur ic's
Polk SDA 1C's modded
Polk LSim 707
Polk LSiM706c
Polk RTiA 3's
Polk 80F/X-RT
Polk DSW PRO 440wi sub
Infinity bu2 sub
"The early Klingon gets the Gagh"