Cambridge Audio Edge series

Just started reading about these Cambridge Audio Edge series components after reading the review of the integreated in the latest issue of Stereophile.

https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en/products/edge

They have an integreated (Edge A), a network streamer/preamp (Edge NQ), and a power amp (Edge W).

I'm especially intrigued by the MSRP $3,000 power amp as it seems to be packed full of engineering decisions that "just make sense".

Namely, these seem to resonate most with me:

"Edge W utilizes opposing-symmetry twin toroidal transformers that cancel out electromagnetic interference."

"Edge W features just 14 hand-picked components in the ultra-clean signal path."

"We completely removed all the capacitors from the signal path and instead introduced a DC coupled topology to the board. We decided that capacitors needed to be removed from the signal path, simply because they can be responsible for adding more distortion and colour than many other components. This technology prevents the delivery of DC to your speakers by using dedicated servos to inject equal and opposite amounts of DC, therefore eliminating it completely."

You can read more about their engineering decisions here: https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/en/blog/making-edge-5-key-technologies

It doesn't look half bad either!

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Anyone else read the Stereophile review or have any thoughts on these Edge series components?
  • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."

Comments

  • SIHABSIHAB Posts: 654
    Stage left: it appears as though they used a finger as one of the 14 :o
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    That is a resistor.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,883
    Yeah, looks nice! I had a much cheaper Cambridge integrated a while ago and liked it. I'd consider this integrated if I needed one and had $5k...
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 2,081
    I’ve been very happy with the CXN and really like their components
    This stuff looks very intriguing
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    I had a dream last night about the Edge W. And it's not the first one I've had about it. I should stop looking at gear photos before bed.

    Obsession level: 8/10
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 10,550
    I love my Cambridge Audio 840W power amps at 800 watt in bridged mono mode with 4 ohm speakers. They are just a couple of steps down from my Pass amps.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin S1 - X1 power supply
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    edited December 2018
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I love my Cambridge Audio 840W power amps at 800 watt in bridged mono mode with 4 ohm speakers. They are just a couple of steps down from my Pass amps.

    Interesting, it looks like yours have a very similar internal design/layout compared to the new Edge W:

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    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 10,550
    Yes. I think Cambridge is trying to remarket their top end.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin S1 - X1 power supply
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    I'm less excited about it now since it seems to be a re-engineer of an existing design, rather than a brand new design. However, I would still like to own it. ;)
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 10,550
    New designs can have issues. Stick with what works, and make it better.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin S1 - X1 power supply
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,883
    Clipdat wrote: »
    I'm less excited about it now since it seems to be a re-engineer of an existing design, rather than a brand new design. However, I would still like to own it. ;)
    Things can look similar and sound different. If I were interested, I'd want to hear one first.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    edited December 2018
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    Things can look similar and sound different. If I were interested, I'd want to hear one first.

    Cambridge actually suggested similar and recommend that I visit a local authorized dealer.

    Aside from the fact that I don't care for this particular dealer based on my previous experiences with them, how can you accurately judge a piece of equipment such as an amplifier at a dealer's shop? The source, speakers, cables, room, etc. will all be different than my own.

    If I like what I hear, how do I know that what I'm hearing is the influence of the amplifier?
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,883
    Clipdat wrote: »
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    Things can look similar and sound different. If I were interested, I'd want to hear one first.

    Cambridge actually suggested similar and recommend that I visit a local authorized dealer.

    Aside from the fact that I don't care for this particular dealer based on my previous experiences with them, how can you accurately judge a piece of equipment such as an amplifier at a dealer's shop? The source, speakers, cables, room, etc. will all be different than my own.

    If I like what I hear, how do I know that what I'm hearing is the influence of the amplifier?
    Good point. I got lucky and found a friend with the amp I wanted and got to hear my speakers on it before buying.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 2,081
    Clipdat wrote: »
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    Things can look similar and sound different. If I were interested, I'd want to hear one first.

    Cambridge actually suggested similar and recommend that I visit a local authorized dealer.

    Aside from the fact that I don't care for this particular dealer based on my previous experiences with them, how can you accurately judge a piece of equipment such as an amplifier at a dealer's shop? The source, speakers, cables, room, etc. will all be different than my own.

    If I like what I hear, how do I know that what I'm hearing is the influence of the amplifier?

    If you develop a relationship with the dealer, most likely they will let you take a demo home to try.
    2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd

    5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote

    Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 10,550
    edited December 2018
    Deleted. Wrong thread.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin S1 - X1 power supply
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    joecoulson wrote: »
    If you develop a relationship with the dealer, most likely they will let you take a demo home to try.

    I suppose you're right but with no tax, free shipping and 30-60 day evaluation period, so do Crutchfield, Audio Advisor, and Music Direct.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,883
    Clipdat wrote: »
    joecoulson wrote: »
    If you develop a relationship with the dealer, most likely they will let you take a demo home to try.

    I suppose you're right but with no tax, free shipping and 30-60 day evaluation period, so do Crutchfield, Audio Advisor, and Music Direct.

    Well, there you go! Gonna give it a shot?
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    Well, there you go! Gonna give it a shot?

    It's tempting, but no, not at this juncture.

    I wonder how many things my Dayens Ampino Monoblocks have in their signal path. It might be less than 14. ;)
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    Reviews on this amp seem few and far between, but I did find this one: https://www.techgoondu.com/2018/12/07/goondu-review-cambridge-audio-edge-w-power-amplifier/
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    Although this seems an awful lot like marketing hyperbole, it was still an interesting read: https://www.audioadvice.com/content/cambridge-edge-series-review/
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 21,002
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Although this seems an awful lot like marketing hyperbole, it was still an interesting read: https://www.audioadvice.com/content/cambridge-edge-series-review/

    you mean like this?
    All power amplifiers have transistors that reproduce each half of a musical waveform. Class A is technically the most perfect type of design as in Class A.

    Umm, yeah, no. Whoever wrote those two lines doesn't understand Class A operating points or is pretty much incapable of accurate self-expression.
    This amp uses some sort of quasi-class A sliding bias (or dual bias) design. Such things were all the rage in the early 1980s (e.g., Technics "New Class A", and they sort of died out quietly thereafter.

    Just sayin' :)

    I did not know that Cambridge Audio used the first toroidal PT in audio, though.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,893
    edited January 29
    Yeah I think that line must've gotten past the editor. Awkward.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
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