My new M6 spikes...or something

jdjohn
jdjohn Posts: 2,987
Check it out - my new M6-thread speaker 'foot pads'.
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Works perfectly on hardwood floors, but kind of looks like a bloke with skinny legs wearing sandals.

$10 for 8 of them, off Amazon, drop-shipped from China.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    Looking grippy 👍

    I've been eyeing the isolation feet by svs
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  • Not very spike-like, but rock them if you like them.
  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,969
    jdjohn wrote: »
    Check it out - my new M6-thread speaker 'foot pads'.
    qiprfwxw87xc.jpg
    Works perfectly on hardwood floors,

    $10 for 8 of them, off Amazon, drop-shipped from China.
    think they’ll work on RTi A7s?

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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,471
    I'd rather do conventional spikes with the protective discs, but those can be $$
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    Those padded screw in feet are worthless.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    What do you think about the system by svs. I have spikes but don't really want to use spikes given the weight of the Utopias at 140 pounds
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    My understanding of the SVS feet is they are meant to isolate the sub from the floor to help limit the amount of structural vibrations. Not unlike the SubDude.

    From SubDude,
    Dramatically reduces structural vibrations through walls, floors & ceilings

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    My SDA's are at least 160lbs. each and they are spiked. The first thing I did with my SVS sub was add Adona Multi-Element spikes.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    I think they would make a good spike substitute then plus they offer multiple bolt sizes
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    Spikes couple, those decouple.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    Hmm, would be curious to see if you could hear the difference
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,557
    DSkip wrote: »
    This is also true with components and is why racks and platforms matter so much.

    Such a can of worms. Everyone seems to have different schools of thought when it comes to coupling/decoupling/isolation/anti vibration. So many different approaches and the prices easily soar into the stratosphere for some of the "high end" racks. It's all a bit overwhelming.
  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,471
    I had the svs feet on a sub. They did isolate it, too well. Lost a lot of that tactile feel you expect with a sub. Spiked it and sold the feet.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    VR3 wrote: »
    Hmm, would be curious to see if you could hear the difference

    Damn right I can, you should know that by now.
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  • mlistens03
    mlistens03 Posts: 2,767
    edited September 2018
    Spikes on speaker stands I get. But spikes on a Audio rack? Unless there’s a turntable, I don’t buy it.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    That's because you are inexperienced.
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  • mlistens03
    mlistens03 Posts: 2,767
    F1nut wrote: »
    That's because you are inexperienced.

    I know. I forgot to add, “Can you enlighten me?”
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    Spikes transfer vibration away from the item to ground.
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  • mlistens03
    mlistens03 Posts: 2,767
    edited September 2018
    F1nut wrote: »
    Spikes transfer vibration away from the item to ground.

    But what vibrations come from amplifiers/pre amps/tuners etc? Is that background hum what you’re trying to fix?
    And please,give me some detail. Some people may like quick easy answers, but I’m not one of them.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    Sound waves are vibrations, especially bass notes. Some folks isolate their gear from that by placing the gear in a separate room away from the speakers.
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  • mlistens03
    mlistens03 Posts: 2,767
    F1nut wrote: »
    Sound waves are vibrations, especially bass notes. Some folks isolate their gear from that by placing the gear in a separate room away from the speakers.

    This is something I’ve wanted to do, but I don’t have another room. But what does that have to do with floor spikes on stands?
    I’m not saying I wouldn’t ever buy one, or that I think it isn’t true. But I have trouble believing it, because I simply don’t understand it. The way I see it, your coupling the electronics to the floor, which the speakers are coupled to, the speakers vibrate the floor, and then that vibrates the racks... so the way I see it (probably totally wrong), spiking your racks to the floor causes more vibrations to hit your electronics. I’m probably wrong, but I’m struggling to see how this helps. Enlighten me please...
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    Interesting article on the "singing capacitor". The way it is mounted to the PCB, and component chassis, may exacerbate the effect. Thus the desire to isolate (to ground) each component.
    https://product.tdk.com/en/contact/faq/31_singing_capacitors_piezoelectric_effect.pdf
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  • mlistens03
    mlistens03 Posts: 2,767
    verb wrote: »
    Interesting article on the "singing capacitor". The way it is mounted to the PCB, and component chassis, may exacerbate the effect. Thus the desire to isolate (to ground) each component.
    https://product.tdk.com/en/contact/faq/31_singing_capacitors_piezoelectric_effect.pdf

    Thank you. This is what I was looking for.
  • verb
    verb Posts: 10,176
    No worries. I always supported the isolation idea, but today I learned about the piezoelectric effect:
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  • mlistens03
    mlistens03 Posts: 2,767
    Very interesting. I see the purpose of it now. Thanks!
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 27,965
    Would be curious to compare, the Utopias enclosures varies from 1 to 3 inch thick enclosure walls, bracing and lead plates... Not much vibration leaving anything

    Right now I have them in dollies so... Lol
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,084
    F1nut wrote: »
    Sound waves are vibrations, especially bass notes. Some folks isolate their gear from that by placing the gear in a separate room away from the speakers.

    Since we’re talking SQ, any chance of your custom cable riser’s coming to fruition?

    I might be innarested
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 49,704
    GlennDog wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    Sound waves are vibrations, especially bass notes. Some folks isolate their gear from that by placing the gear in a separate room away from the speakers.

    Since we’re talking SQ, any chance of your custom cable riser’s coming to fruition?

    I might be innarested

    Yeah, it'll happen just not sure when. Thanks for your interest.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,021
    mlistens03 wrote: »
    Very interesting. I see the purpose of it now. Thanks!

    I like your open-mindedness.
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  • jdjohn
    jdjohn Posts: 2,987
    F1nut wrote: »
    Those padded screw in feet are worthless.
    Wrong...they are worth at least $10 drop-shipped from China.
    F1nut wrote: »
    Spikes couple, those decouple.
    Wrong again. Spikes couple themselves to speaker cabinets, but they decouple themselves from flooring, with only the smallest point of a cone touching the floor.

    Coupling involves solidifying a connection between two objects, whereas decoupling minimizes the connection.
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