TSi 500 - too much bass
So I recently bought these and have them hooked up to my 2 channel Onkyo TX-8050 receiver and I've noticed that there is too bass. And not good bass, sort of rumbling bass. I left the jumpers on the bi-wire speakers terminals and connected some monster cable to the lower terminal. Has anyone else run into this sound problem? I've played many different styles of music, and even the most quiet film score seems too bassy. I of course have adjusted the levels on the receiver and it doesn't sound as good as it should.
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Dontcha think that's a bit too high then ?
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His receiver has knobs on the front for Bass and Treble. I assume that means he has the knob at 3/4's of the way around. That might have been okay with his old Phillips speakers, but it's probably causing his boom-i-ness now.
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Put the bass knob at the "12:00" position and carry on.
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Not a big fan of monster cable either. Monoprice is better and cheaper. Do yourself a favor, call Doug and get some Furez https://douglasconnection.com/Furez-12-AWG-2-Conductor-Speaker-Cable-Raw-FZ122.htm Far much better cable than Monster. Before buying that Monster 16awg stuff you would be better served going to Best Buy and getting Audioquest X2.
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What did the old "Philips" speakers sound/look like?
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Start out flat. Enjoy some familiar tunes, study the nuances. Yes you can tweak the bass/treble, but ever so slightly to taste. As mentioned before, you may have been (like me) so used to artificially tweaking the output I never really had a chance to experience the music as intended.
Certainly as you continue to upgrade, you will notice the improvements in the music!
The same tunes will sound like new! That, fellow Polkie, is our journey.
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You betcha. Philips has made some of the best CD transports around, but they never made a decent speaker.
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Well, you can't really complain about too much bass, when you're the one who boosted it, right?
Seriously, I also used to tweak the knobs, until I started to learn more about equipment and how to get better sound. It took some getting used to, but I always run flat now.
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Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1430
Tad 803 speakers
Not meaning to hijack the post, just fascinated by the Philips stuff.
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Thanks a nice looking rig! Welcome to the forum. Some of these guys are a little rough around the edges, but there is lots of good advice to be had here.
Music is like other refined sensory experiences. If you are used to drinking Franzia "chillable red" and then someone hands you a glass of really good, dry chewy cab chilled at 62 degrees, you might just spit it out. But if you drink that cab for a week or two, you will never go back to that box crap. Your senses adjust to what you are used to and your mental expectations adjust along with them.
So yea, turn the tone to flat, pull the speakers out (that is contributing to the boomy bass), and give it at least 3-4 days, preferably a week. Then go back and forth between tone and no tone and see what you like. If you still like the tone controls, rock on, its your money and your system. But I imagine you will like the neutral sound of no artificial tone...
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