I have to say, my initial experience with a USB DAC in a near field system offered noticeable improvement over networked Squeezebox player with digital coax. Imaging, specifically, and the experience felt more immersive and surrounding. Seems worth exploring USB power isolation and noise reduction. I'll have to see whether the USB DACs mention anything in their documentation about noise suppression.
This version of a USB Disruptor is the cheaper version of an isolation approach without iFi's additional tech. They apparently offer a separate USB cable that has the power and metal connectivity disabled for isolation. This no frills design is for those who wouldn't be partial to a particular USB cable. Reviews indicate the USBD offered greater improvement than any single USB cable upgrade the reviewers had tried.
@msg Scott I have an ifi nano idsd and two ifi micro idsd's and I remember reading somewhere that one the other or both had their noise suppresion built in, however, when I asked them at ifi about the ipurifier 2 they said it would be an improvement when used with the idsd's. I would ask about that grand slam but I don't see myself buying that cable any time soon. Oh and Hans likes their wall warts.
lol @machone it's not that easy when your computer setup shares a room with your TV loving wife. Guess who gets priority on sound?
"Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
lol @machone it's not that easy when your computer setup shares a room with your TV loving wife. Guess who gets priority on sound?
Get that women a TV in the bedroom! Best thing I ever did, the wife much prefers watching in there, and honesty most of the time I am wife her. But if I wanna watch a different show or listen to tunes while studying (my desk and computer are also in the family room) I can do that...
HT Rig:
Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
; Master Bedroom
Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
If it was up to me I wouldn't even have a TV in the house, and my 2 channel system would be where the TV currently is.
Putting on an album and listening to it from start to finish should be it's own form of entertainment. Or even just putting some tunes on in the background and *gasp* having a face to face conversation.
Get that women a TV in the bedroom! Best thing I ever did, the wife much prefers watching in there, and honesty most of the time I am wife her. But if I wanna watch a different show or listen to tunes while studying (my desk and computer are also in the family room) I can do that...
"Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
"Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
"Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
Noted. I observed that it does get warm during use, so yeah maybe it needs some time to settle in.
I "installed" it last night, but I'm going to wait to make a judgement on it until I get some more time spent listening with it in the signal chain. Then, I'll try going back to how it was without it and see what I notice.
I would think any electronic piece would benefit from burn-in time.
"Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
So I've had it installed for about a week and I've been using it. Decided to test it tonight.
I just listened to 4 tracks with it, and then removed it and listened to the same 4 tracks. I'm not really detecting any discernible differences. If anything I prefer the sound without it installed. Shrug! YMMV.
"Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
So I've had it installed for about a week and I've been using it. Decided to test it tonight.
I just listened to 4 tracks with it, and then removed it and listened to the same 4 tracks. I'm not really detecting any discernible differences. If anything I prefer the sound without it installed. Shrug! YMMV.
Probly been asked but what is your setup? I am all about lowering noise floor but adding to the signal chain is at the same time counter intuitive.
Probly been asked but what is your setup? I am all about lowering noise floor but adding to the signal chain is at the same time counter intuitive.
"Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
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I have to say, my initial experience with a USB DAC in a near field system offered noticeable improvement over networked Squeezebox player with digital coax. Imaging, specifically, and the experience felt more immersive and surrounding. Seems worth exploring USB power isolation and noise reduction. I'll have to see whether the USB DACs mention anything in their documentation about noise suppression.
This version of a USB Disruptor is the cheaper version of an isolation approach without iFi's additional tech. They apparently offer a separate USB cable that has the power and metal connectivity disabled for isolation. This no frills design is for those who wouldn't be partial to a particular USB cable. Reviews indicate the USBD offered greater improvement than any single USB cable upgrade the reviewers had tried.
Unplug USB from dac
Plug USB into ifi
Plug ifi into dac
Sit back and listen
Report???????
SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...SDA-1A (Fully Modded with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
1KVA Dreadnought
Marantz SA 8005
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
Sony PS4
Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
Office: PC, Marantz CD-1, Marantz AMP-1, Denon UDR-F10 Cassette, Acoustic Technologies Classic Speakers, SVS SB12 Plus Subwoofer, MIT AVt2 speaker cables, IFI Purifier2, AQ Cinnamon USB cable
Spare Room: Bottlehead SEX 2.1 Integrated Amp, Tisbury Mini Passive Pre, Tjoeb 99 tube CD player (modified Marantz CD-38), AudioEngine B1 Streamer, Klipsch RB-61 v2
Living Room: Pioneer SX-N30 Network Receiver, Pioneer PD10AE CD Player, Furman M8-LX Power Conditioner, Polk RT265 In Wall Speakers, Polk DSW Pro 660wi Subwoofer
Spares VTL 2.5 Pre, EAR 834L Pre, Rotel RC1580 Pre, Conrad Johnson MF2300A Amp, Carver TFM35x Amp, (2) Dayens Ampino Integrated, (2) SDA 1C's, Monitor 10's, Monitor 5Jr's, Polk TSi200's, Rega RP1 TT, Project BoxE Bluetooth Streamer
Not that those two pastimes are mutually exclusive, mind you.
lol @machone it's not that easy when your computer setup shares a room with your TV loving wife. Guess who gets priority on sound?
Get that women a TV in the bedroom! Best thing I ever did, the wife much prefers watching in there, and honesty most of the time I am wife her. But if I wanna watch a different show or listen to tunes while studying (my desk and computer are also in the family room) I can do that...
Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
;
Master Bedroom
Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
If it was up to me I wouldn't even have a TV in the house, and my 2 channel system would be where the TV currently is.
Putting on an album and listening to it from start to finish should be it's own form of entertainment. Or even just putting some tunes on in the background and *gasp* having a face to face conversation.
TV sucks.
SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modded)...SDA-1A (Fully Modded with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
1KVA Dreadnought
Marantz SA 8005
Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570
Sony PS4
Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video
"All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
I "installed" it last night, but I'm going to wait to make a judgement on it until I get some more time spent listening with it in the signal chain. Then, I'll try going back to how it was without it and see what I notice.
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Dynaudio Audience 72
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cary xciter dac
Cullen modded Sonos
Joule la-100 pre
B&k Ref 4420 amp
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
B&k 1430
Tad 803 speakers
I just listened to 4 tracks with it, and then removed it and listened to the same 4 tracks. I'm not really detecting any discernible differences. If anything I prefer the sound without it installed. Shrug! YMMV.
Probly been asked but what is your setup? I am all about lowering noise floor but adding to the signal chain is at the same time counter intuitive.