Gat damned room needs work!
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afterburnt
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Got the old Ushers in the vacation house and they sound like sheet!
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You should have broken the room in with the hello kitty boom box.
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You should have broken the room in with the hello kitty boom box.
That's just for looking at -
Place this in the listening position and crawl around the floor to optimize the sound. Clap into the mic and listen for echos so you know where to hang some towels.
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afterburnt wrote: »Got the old Ushers in the vacation house and they sound like sheet!
I call BS. I've never heard a pair of Ushers that didn't sound goodThings work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden -
You don't have sumtin' right
Let me elaborate
Is there vaulted ceilings?2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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What are the room dimensions? Any treatment at all (rugs, drapes)? There is only so much speakers can do if the environment sucks.2 Channel "Polk" Room:
Marantz PM8004 Integrated
Marantz SA8004 SACD Player
Music Hall mmf 7.3 TT with Ortofon Bronze
WiiM Mini
Schiit Bifrost with Multibit Upgrade
Polk 7B with RDO198s -
txcoastal1 wrote: »You don't have sumtin' right
Let me elaborate
Is there vaulted ceilings?
The ceiling is 8' at the speaker end, drapes over the wall/windows behind them and close to 20' at the other. Area rug on wood floors and a couple of couches and a coffee table in the room nothing else. -
So 20 feet height at the non-speaker end? What are the length and width?2 Channel "Polk" Room:
Marantz PM8004 Integrated
Marantz SA8004 SACD Player
Music Hall mmf 7.3 TT with Ortofon Bronze
WiiM Mini
Schiit Bifrost with Multibit Upgrade
Polk 7B with RDO198s -
8 foot to 20 foot ceilings. Iron Maiden never sounds good in a church.
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19.5 L X 13.5 W
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What are you hearing that you don't like? The dimensions aren't really that bad in terms of length and width, but the vaulted ceiling may likely be your challenge. Depending on how far back your listening position is, you may be losing some of the highs to the higher ceiling behind you (assuming here) and/or getting a bit of echo in those frequencies.
To the point above, the overall sound may be "cavernous" like an old Church with high ceilings.
You may want to grab an old blanket and attach it to the ceiling just behind the listening position. If it solves some of your issues, you could upgrade to "clouds" which are just acoustic panels secured to the ceiling.
Might not hurt to put a few panels on the wall at the back of the room and first point of reflection either. Cubic footage is pretty substantial with that room, so taming it all with a few panels may well do the trick.2 Channel "Polk" Room:
Marantz PM8004 Integrated
Marantz SA8004 SACD Player
Music Hall mmf 7.3 TT with Ortofon Bronze
WiiM Mini
Schiit Bifrost with Multibit Upgrade
Polk 7B with RDO198s -
Hell I don't want to do any expensive treatments until I move and get the real system in place. That old blanket suggestion may have to do!
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If you don't mind the look, it can be effective.
My 2 channel room is well treated with panels, but I add moving blankets when recording voice over / vocals for further control.
Moving blankets are ugly, but perhaps a cheap duvet cover with a moving blanket inside might be the ticket. Just an idea ....2 Channel "Polk" Room:
Marantz PM8004 Integrated
Marantz SA8004 SACD Player
Music Hall mmf 7.3 TT with Ortofon Bronze
WiiM Mini
Schiit Bifrost with Multibit Upgrade
Polk 7B with RDO198s -
Will my Ushers got sick if I hook em up to an Emo?
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Beat the emo with a bat.
Just simply wrong to work so hard at making good speakers sound bad. -
Emo wrong for Ushers2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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All you need is 100watt A/B for the Ushers. I used my XA30.5 with them.2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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I got to buy another amp! I hate you guys so very very much.
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If you have an EMO and like it then use it, but don't buy it to use it...capisce2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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I don't know if I like it. I don't remember the last time it was hooked up to what.
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Not sure if I like this Emo. I did like running these speakers on a Marantz NR but I thought I would fry it.
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My cute little Ushers hate this amp, I think I insulted them. Maybe I shouldn't be listening to Chaka Khan she's kindda bright???
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So Far my Ushers seem to really like my Vincent Gear or at least that is what my Aircraft hearing thinks Marvin wants me to sell them and get some Ayre amps but I think I'm happy for now. ( Marvin is the worlds biggest Enabler)
Someday who knows what i will use but until then ....
2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
So Far my Ushers seem to really like my Vincent Gear or at least that is what my Aircraft hearing thinks Marvin wants me to sell them and get some Ayre amps but I think I'm happy for now. ( Marvin is the worlds biggest Enabler)
Someday who knows what i will use but until then ....
amp not amps
and don't you mean dskip the enablerAmplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Puritan PSM156 -
listen to you LOL you are more a enabler then him, just because he showed you something special doesn't make him a enabler. but you wouldn't hesitate to push me off a cliff ( or down a Rabbit's hole)
If you didnt have such good ears I wouldn't listen to you so much2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
@marvda1 you make me feel like a schnook
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Bad clams! This will not do, I shant abide by this travesty! This Emo is from here on relegated to surround duty. The Parasound 2250? Is called to the front!
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Moving up Emo wernt bad moving down yikes!
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Crimney this is horrible! Will I blow up my Marantz NR? I can't take it!!!