Completely disappointed in this 24K speaker...*shakes head*

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  • lightman1lightman1 Posts: 10,642
    Holy cow! Look at the booty on that speaker! Hubba Hubba!
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 11,220
    lightman1 wrote: »
    Holy cow! Look at the booty on that speaker! Hubba Hubba!

    I thought they would be a little thin for you
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  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,378
    edited May 2017
    Reminds me of an ol' Crack the Sky lyric (from the song Mind Baby):
    oooh, mama, she lives in a house with no lock on the door
    oooh, mama, there's no one upstairs but what a great bottom floor
    Hey, baby, throw her a look and she'll comfort your day
    oohh, mama, throw her a book and she'll throw it away
  • cmy330gocmy330go Posts: 2,339
    edited May 2017
    treitz3 wrote: »
    http://www.monitoraudiousa.com/products/platinum-ii/pl500-ii

    It's GORGEOUS!!!. It looks like it would belong in a multi-million dollar property. The shine on the wood is so thick and pristine, you can see your reflection in it. The connections are all top notch, build quality excellent....literally everything about this speaker fits the bill of all things luxury and all things audiophile.

    Until you hear it.

    Yeah, it has a ribbon tweeter so the top end is rolled off. When I say rolled of? Yeah, I don't mean like a typical ribbon speaker. I've heard a few that are outstanding. This one? The song started and I was wondering where the music was. No imaging, no chimes, no micro details to speak of. It wasn't as if I needed to strain to hear it all......it just wasn't there.

    At all.

    So, the bass passages come in. Where is the bass? Where is the sound pressure? OMG, where is anything that is pleasurable? I have heard low line Polk subs sound better than this thing offered.....and here's the kicker.

    It had about 60-70K worth of front end equipment, acoustical treatments, carpeting, properly set up and with a great LP source to boot. I'm not saying that it was so bad that you would have to pay me to listen to it. What I am saying is that from this same company, I have heard a 1K bookie they produced come eerily close to an Apogee Centaurus on all aspects of the reproductive effort (minus the stunning presentation of the Apogees).

    What gives? These things sounded horrible. I'd have rather enjoyed a pair of the current Polk LSiM series....any one of them hooked up to an MP3 source playing Adele better than these.

    Money means absolutely NOTHING in this hobby. Nothing.

    Tom

    Huh. This is interesting! I heard these just a few months ago at Saturday Audio Exchange in Chicago. They had them setup near the front counter. One of the employees caught me admiring them, and asked if I'd like to hear them. He turned up some concert performance that was playing on the screen between them, and I stood there silently surprised, at how unimpressive it sounded. I just dismissed it at the time, assuming it was the source material, or the far from ideal environment they had them setup in. After reading this though, I'm wondering if you're onto something. Maybe they really are just all show, and no go.

    As a side note, I'm kicking myself for not visiting Saturday Audio sooner. I'll be hitting it every chance I get from now on.
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,491
    treitz3 wrote: »
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    I will say this, the set up in the room next door at Hi-Fi Buys was a setup very similar to this setup at Munich. This was the 300K system. I think most folks here would have enjoyed that system. Refined and musical.....just a fun system to listen too.

    Nothing like that POS MBL setup we heard at Jolida HQ. The Monitor Audio speakers in the OP were actually worse than that rig.....by a far margin. That should put it into perspective for ya'.

    Tom

    Ah, I missed this until now. Wow, worse than the MBL's......that is bad.
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  • mikeyb128mikeyb128 Posts: 2,887
    edited May 2017
    VR3 wrote: »
    My Dad lived with the Grande Utopias in his house for a decade... that speaker needs quality gear and room to flex its muscles...

    I can say the Mezzo utopias I have right now are a blast to listen to as they are appropriate for my room size

    I've heard many meh focal systems. And alot of really great ones. My electras are a completely different animal toed in a half inch.

    The better the gear (properly matched might I say) and the better they sound. Every rung up the ladder I get better and better sound.. I keep saying how much better can these things sound? I keep squeezing better sound out of them with every tweak, upgrade. Absolutely amazing speakers (for the value vs performance). I've heard very few complaints.

    I spend quite a bit of time listening to extremely expensive systems in local hifi shops, and I come home and turn mine on and sit there with a smile. It's sounds just as good!
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  • MontoyaMontoya Posts: 506
    That's very strange my little shop is a Monitor dealer we have not gotten to the platinum level yet but the golds really shine. I have owned the current iteration of the Polk LsiM series and they don't come close to the Monitor Gold. Very surprised to hear this especially after reading so much about these in particular punching way above the price point.
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,491
    It is what it is.....I had a few heavy hitters within the industry state the same thing about these at LSAF. Apparently, I am not alone with my observations...

    Like I had mentioned before....I loved their little bookie. Their flagship on the other hand?

    Tom
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  • analogluvranalogluvr Posts: 72
    That's funny there is A guy on audio gon who raves about monitor audio. His handle is Bo 1972 and he goes on and on about truefi and how it will help you measure the parameters of hi-fi. He keeps going on about how the monitor audios are so good at a 3-D presentation. I feel like telling him to get a set of Polk SDA's
  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 11,220
    I'm not knocking monitor at all, I like most of their speakers. I own a pair of speakers that would be classed in that price range and above.

    The PL500 does not IMHO come near the quality of sound as my speakers. Had the opportunity to here the 500's at a dealers shop in East TX. Of course this is a personal opinion.

    It's whatever floats your boat
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  • scubalabscubalab Posts: 2,925
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Wonder how these sound -- they seem like they may be a little short on traditional WAF (but maybe I am just being old-fashioned):

    ..the "SIRENS"...[by Metaxas & Sins...]

    http://www.monoandstereo.com/2017/04/new-metaxas-sins-sirens-loudspakers.html

    Looks like a pregnant Cyclops...
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,491
    Those are interesting speakers...more like a work of art. What are they asking for those...or has the price been released to the public yet?

    Tom
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 14,491
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    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    ~ The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction ~

    ~ Not all things that can be measured can be heard and not all things heard can be measured ~

    ~ When the law ends, tyranny begins ~
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 44,491
    edited July 2017
    Oh no, midriff exposure and crack cleavage are verboten by the PC not z's
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  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,668
    treitz3 wrote: »
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    The bass sounds a bit pregnant and bloated...
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  • Polkitup2Polkitup2 Posts: 1,589
    How about a rear firing port?

  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,378
    Polkitup2 wrote: »
    How about a rear firing port?

    just... eww.

    :#
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 22,668
    But they are great for replicating the legendary "brown-note".
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  • verbverb Posts: 10,154
    edited October 2019
    Gotta laugh at this old thread! Nice to see some humor, and the obligatory political reference. I must say, those cabinets are a bit memorizing!

    But, I wonder what a variation would look like with a stereo and dimensional driver up top? :)
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  • daddyjtdaddyjt Posts: 1,456
    Polkitup2 wrote: »
    How about a rear firing port?

    I find front-ports to be much cleaner, and with a much higher WAF...
    Too much stuff to keep track of.

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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 16,309
    edited October 2019
    daddyjt wrote: »
    Polkitup2 wrote: »
    How about a rear firing port?

    I find front-ports to be much cleaner, and with a much higher WAF...

    Yea those rear ports can be muddy........

    Or I mean that's what I was told once ...
  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    I heard that MA Platinum a couple of years ago at Saturday Audio in Chicago and wasn't impressed in the least. Could have been that they needed to be in at least twice the space they were in, but, it was the most discombobulated I may have ever heard.
  • mhardy6647mhardy6647 Posts: 25,378
    edited October 2019
    I am amused by the juxtaposition of bona fide comments on rear ports and... shall we say... more fanciful perspectives on the double entendre.

    Rear ports.

    speaking of portz...



    EDIT: or, here's a more audiohile-appropriate version ;)


    (nice SME arm on a fairly nice Thorens)
  • drumminmandrumminman Posts: 3,377


    (nice SME arm on a fairly nice Thorens)[/quote]

    Looks identical to the SME arm I got divorced from, except for the fixed shell.
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  • kharp1kharp1 Posts: 3,463
    I heard them at Saturday Audio as well, and, it might have been the way they were set up, but, I was far less than impressed. I was in the market for a new speaker, and, they caught me looking and couldn't wait to demo them...I tried to like them. They were, if memory hasn't failed me, packed in to a room that was probably too small for them, had too much stuff around and between them, and they still couldn't pressurize the room properly. If that had been my only experience with Monitor I probably would have written them off completely. Fortunately, I've heard other Monitor speakers, so, I can now write them off with a little for info in my back pocket.
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