Anybody into BBQ/Smoking?

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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited February 2017
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    rooftop59 wrote: »
    @Erik Tracy how do you like the WSM? Has it held up well? Can you smoke a full brisket on it? I am thinking that might be my b-day/father's day gift this year...if I have any say ;-)
    The WSM is holding up nicely.

    I did use the NOMEX tape seal around the loading door which helped alot with air gaps and temp control - the stock door is a bit of a joke (but this is true across all the WSMs).

    The biggest brisket I've smoked was only 12lbs and I did have to 'tuck' the ends under to get it to fit.

    Also, I can only fit 2 full rib racks on the top rack laying flat(after cutting each rack into halves). To do more requires either rolling the racks or using a rib rack.

    The most I've done is 4 racks using a rib rack - the ends need to be bent/curved to fit.

    I have not tried using the lower rack at the same time - no need to as of yet.

    So if you are doing bbq for large numbers - the 22 is what you want. However, I've heard the 22 is a fuel hog and a bit harder to control the temp for lower cooks.

    For a family of 4, the 18.5 works well.


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  • thsmith
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    Good One - Open Range Smoker - Gen 1

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  • rooftop59
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    stangman67 wrote: »
    I don't have personal experience with the WSM but have heard great things. I do recommend the Akorn though. Available at 299.99 at Home Depot and Lowe's. It is just as happy smoking a brisket for 14 hours as it is searing a steak at 700. For me it was a stepping stone to something that will be a lifetime investment but for many people it is an end all grill

    I LOVE the look and features of the Akorn, and there are tons are great reviews. BUT, there are a LOT of folks on amazon who complain about the QC and longevity. I don't want to throw 3 bones at something that might not last more than a couple of years, so I'm leaning away from it at the moment.

    How long have you had yours and how has it held up?
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  • rooftop59
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    Thanks @Erik Tracy I have a family of six, and I do like to smoke for/with friends, so that could be an issue...have to do some more research!
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,185
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    rooftop59 wrote: »
    stangman67 wrote: »
    I don't have personal experience with the WSM but have heard great things. I do recommend the Akorn though. Available at 299.99 at Home Depot and Lowe's. It is just as happy smoking a brisket for 14 hours as it is searing a steak at 700. For me it was a stepping stone to something that will be a lifetime investment but for many people it is an end all grill

    I LOVE the look and features of the Akorn, and there are tons are great reviews. BUT, there are a LOT of folks on amazon who complain about the QC and longevity. I don't want to throw 3 bones at something that might not last more than a couple of years, so I'm leaning away from it at the moment.

    How long have you had yours and how has it held up?


    I've had mine for about two years now. It has held up beautifully. I bought a cover and always keep it covered but I have no major concerns about longevity,. Could easily last another 5 years or more. I bet the vast majority of those negative reviews are from people that really don't know how to take care of stuff.
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited February 2017
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    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Thanks @Erik Tracy I have a family of six, and I do like to smoke for/with friends, so that could be an issue...have to do some more research!

    You can cook for 6 on the 18.5 - esp a good hefty pork butt for pulled pork, or if you use a rib rack for ribs, or a nice sized brisket. Just don't expect any leftovers.

    When I do bbq, I plan to cook enough for the initial feast, but then some left overs the next day for another meal.

    If you can master using both racks you can increase your 'yield'.

    I haven't tackled that as of yet.

    You'll have to do your own trade off analysis for fuel vs cost vs yield.

    I will say that the WSM can turn out some of the tastiest Q I've ever done.

    Ain't it fun? ;)

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  • Ricardo
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    kharp1 wrote: »
    I'll smoke a good cigar.

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  • Jstas
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    I don't know of anyone who does BBQ/Smokers/Grills
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  • B Run
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    The green one is my Ugly Drum smoker I built for my house, the big guy is at our river place for feeding lots of people.

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  • stangman67
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    Built this for my new Vision ceramic kamado this weekend. Grill should be here on Thursday, hope next weekend is nice!

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  • Erik Tracy
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    Very cool!

    I sometimes wish I had more 'work surface' when using my WSM. Your setup looks sweet.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • stangman67
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    Thanks, I am really excited for all the real estate I'll have. Table only cost me 100 bucks to built as well
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  • stangman67
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    New smoker is a huge success. Love it especially for the price

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  • stangman67
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    Come over whenever!
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  • Erik Tracy
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    stangman67 wrote: »
    New smoker is a huge success. Love it especially for the price

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    The bottle opener is mandatory - nice touch.

    Now...get to seasoning that rig...looks too....clean. ;)

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  • stangman67
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    Good eats tonight

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  • voltz
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    edited March 2017
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    I made the mistake (sort of) of buying the Weber WSM 18" and like others have said about ribs are tight to get in there and my pork shoulders. Wish I had the 22'

    for me I had luck just filling the ring full on charcoal and about 30 lit ones on top for 11 hours of smoking.

    For chicken I cut out the backbone then chop in half 2 halves per shelf (1 chicken) and marinate for 6-12 hours in Cuban sour oranges as they are to sour to eat but perfect for marinating - can't remember their names.

    then just open all 3 bottom vents & like it get as hot as it wants, in 2 hours it is always done -and they are so moist you could squeeze water out of them :)

    Mojo Criollo they call the marinate

    Mojo simply means "sauce" and is pronouced like "MOH-hoh", not "moe-joe" (we're not in an Austin Powers movie here) and criollo, pronounced "kree-OH-yoh", is a term that means "of Spanish descent" (i.e. Spain) and is usually applied to things (or people!) from Central or South America and the Spanish-speaking Caribbean.

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  • marvda1
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    the way i do my ribs is while the smoker is coming up to temp, i put some mesquite flavored sea salt that i got from world market then course ground black pepper and blues hog rub. the blues hog gives them a great color and just the right amount of that something something to put them over the edge.
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  • voltz
    voltz Posts: 5,384
    edited March 2017
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    That the stuff I was talking about! forgot it was sold by GOYA :)

    BTW! if you pull all the chicken off the bones and shred it, it is perfect for any Dish that needs some chicken.
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  • marvda1
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    here's some ribs.
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  • voltz
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    ^^^^^^
    How much would it cost me to buy a slab? o:)

    Someday I'm going to move next door ;)
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  • stangman67
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    Yum ribs! I was a out to do some ribs today but I figured I'd save that for next weekend
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  • marvda1
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,871
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    here you can order from world market.
    http://www.worldmarket.com/search.do?query=blues+hog
    the bbq sauce is also to die for.
    in competition bbq the top three sauces are sweet baby rays, blues hog, and head country.
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  • stangman67
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    I use a homemade rub that sounds very similar to what you just linked, cumin instead of onion (powder I suppose)
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  • voltz
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    my local store has the sauce if you can believe it. and it is very very good,

    but in Kansas we use Curly's BBQ sauce mostly ;) used to be made in Hutch but now in Kansas City I think....cook it for a hour and it doesn't break down like others.

    BTW Zach send me a pm if you want to share, I use a home made rub to of smoked paprika and others stuff I got off the web somewhere.
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  • marvda1
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    i use to try to make my own rub but you have to measure exact to get the same taste every time. and if you are like me when you are out of one ingredient you are too lazy to run to the store and thus the rub comes out tasting different each time.
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  • voltz
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    My local store has a great deal on Pork Sholuders if you buy the But & the Picnic together. So I always do and I don't even notice which is the Picnic anymore.

    Shred it and forget it! let my stomach sort it out!

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    I use Mason Jars for that Zach! agree you don't want to run out
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  • stangman67
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    Solution is to make a lot at one time! I have enough to last me months
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  • polrbehr
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    stangman67 wrote: »
    Solution is to make a lot at one time! I have enough to last me months
    Another is to just buy some pre-made rub; the offerings of the McCormick company,
    especially their GrillMates line, are tasty, inexpensive, and consistently made. I used to do my own rubs too, I've found that theirs are better. Really.

    @stangman67, which smoker is your new one? I looked at Vision website but can't seem to locate it (at least in that color?).




    So, are you willing to put forth a little effort or are you happy sitting in your skeptical poo pile?


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