Just got my first taste of high(er) end speaker cables...

Speaker cables are tough for under 100. Heck, most of us spend that on IC'S if not double and triple that. I would suggest getting some bulk Canare wire if your budget is that tight....either use bare wire ends or terminate yourself.

HTguru1982 wrote: »

Thanks. I'm looking at bluejeanscable.com right now. Is there any particular reason to opt for the Canare over the Belden? My system is going to need a complete overhaul, cable-wise. It's all Monster. I know, I know...

Belden is a professional product. There is more Belden around than anything else for a reason. The reason is a professional company with a responsive design department that makes product to fill need. Tough, durable and available.

On the other hand, Belden literally makes fun of "audiophiles" (presented in a distastful way) for believing you hear differences (laughing inserted here by their spokesperson) in cable. The exact opposite of what you've just experienced for yourself. As a result, I find Belden to be just as distasteful as I do the monster lawsuit company. Not because the product is necessarily bad in most cases, just that their professional approach does not result in a product that goes above and beyond. Which I want my audio to do. I find that buying a product made from a company that makes fun of me and what I've found to be the real results to be counter to my choices and where I want my money to be.

Canare is a company that cares and builds a nice product. If you buy measurements, then the right choices from either of those companies for the situation, will result in reasonable results in either case. If you want to buy music, then look for companies that make music to your ears. It's extremely rewarding when you find it!

CJ

Tell Pep we all say hello. I hope he is doing well and wish him nothing but the best.

Great forum member and I was very sad to see him go, but totally understand the reasons for it.

I'd drink with him anyday!

I'd use canare for your surrounds as well. If I could I would.

headrott wrote: »

Thanks for telling Pepster hello from us. I think he is a nice guy and I hope he is doing well. Hope to see him back on the forum sometime.

Same here. I miss his beer induced posts.

I had a good friend - Don Boone, rest his soul, who was an EE and sound engineer and owned a company that wired theaters; from high school auditoriums to our $65million preforming arts center. Don had $tens of thousands invested in equipment to sonically map rooms and test sound in every form known to man.

One weekend we decided to use his array of equipment to test speaker wire. Don already knew the answer, but he humored me. Back in the mid/late 1980s I'd spent literally 80+ hours hand winding speaker wire when it was in fashion to braid wires to eliminate all sorts of demonic electrical crosstalk that 'ruined the sound of quality speakers'. Neither our ears or his equipment - that could measure way beyond what a human can hear - could detect the slightest bit of difference in my creations, Monster cable, twisted copper speaker wire from Radio Shack, and solid copper wire (as long as the gauge was sufficient to carry the current over the distance). We used his McIntosh amp and my Polk SDA 2s for the test.

Since that day I've used 12/2 Romex...12ga. annealed solid copper wire. It's a bit difficult to work with, it needs to be hidden since it's bright yellow, but it carries a great signal and even in today's metals market you can buy it for about $1 a foot. Cheaper in larger quantities. And every time I see that wire, or re-tell this I think of Don and the valuable lesson he took the time to teach me.

Apexpro wrote: »

I had a good friend - Don Boone, rest his soul, who was an EE and sound engineer and owned a company that wired theaters; from high school auditoriums to our $65million preforming arts center. Don had $tens of thousands invested in equipment to sonically map rooms and test sound in every form known to man.

One weekend we decided to use his array of equipment to test speaker wire. Don already knew the answer, but he humored me. Back in the mid/late 1980s I'd spent literally 80+ hours hand winding speaker wire when it was in fashion to braid wires to eliminate all sorts of demonic electrical crosstalk that 'ruined the sound of quality speakers'. Neither our ears or his equipment - that could measure way beyond what a human can hear - could detect the slightest bit of difference in my creations, Monster cable, twisted copper speaker wire from Radio Shack, and solid copper wire (as long as the gauge was sufficient to carry the current over the distance). We used his McIntosh amp and my Polk SDA 2s for the test.

Since that day I've used 12/2 Romex...12ga. annealed solid copper wire. It's a bit difficult to work with, it needs to be hidden since it's bright yellow, but it carries a great signal and even in today's metals market you can buy it for about $1 a foot. Cheaper in larger quantities. And every time I see that wire, or re-tell this I think of Don and the valuable lesson he took the time to teach me.

POPCORN HERE!!!! Get your POPCORN!!!!


I used to thing 16ga lamp cord was just as good as everything else too. I was wrong, and so are you.

I had Doug from Douglass Connections make me some cables for my M10's, but for my 4's I made my own using his Furez 12 awg cable and added some sleeve's I got from ebay & a little shrink wrap and banana plugs!

Moose68Bash wrote: »

Canare 4S11
You might also try Supra Rondo 4x2.5.

Where's the best place to buy Supra Rondo? I've seen it on eBay, but I'm hoping there is a better source in the USA. International freight can get expensive.

I don't understand how people can claim to hear no difference in speaker cables. I just tried AQ CV 4s for about a month and then a pair of AQ Slates showed up yesterday. In short the CV 4s are gone and the Slates are staying. I have also found bi wire is the way to go vs. any type of jumper. There are a ton of used AQs out there worth trying....but I guess you have to actually listen to your gear to hear a difference. The romex for speaker wire idea is a bad one and usually used on real audio forums to start an argument vs. actual discussion.