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What caps have YOU tried?
When I built an active crossover, I used some excellent electrocube metalized polycarbonate capacitors that I had stashed away.
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Are you being sarcastic or do you really believe that? Just asking...
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In the non-damped capacitor, it's possible the windings are absorbing the vibrations.Aroundthesuond wrote: »thank you very much for your reply, kenneth,
I would like to understand why the CC MR are more microphonic/piezoelectric than mundorf silver/oil
should be less than the others, but isn't so, why, from your point of view ?
CC has done an extensive research on internal vibrations of caps...
Swapping out one for the other and listening through speakers, the spatial differences are immediately apparent."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
Are CC MR non damped caps ?In the non-damped capacitor, it's possible the windings are absorbing the vibrations.
Swapping out one for the other and listening through speakers, the spatial differences are immediately apparent.
I ask this question because at high volumes CC MR seems resonate more than Mundorf s/o : if approach the ear on the cap i can hear that it reproduces the song
this is what I want to understand
why, about you point of view ?
--> I replaced the speaker load with a resistor in breakin caps, so can hear everything that comes from the cap
from CC MR comes out more than S/O
another question: non-damped capacitor has less spatial informations ? -
CC MR and ESA are damped.
More or less noise from the cap itself, how does this correlate to overall sound quality?"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
I think all caps have some level of microphonic problem. You can listen to them all with a stethoscope. Winding technique and materials play into the difference of course. How much noise can enter is also effected by those materials. This exact problem is probably a big part of why all caps have some differences in sonic qualities. Even if some don't know this and just make fun of it.
I've several times seen caps with enough microphonic problems that noise in the room would get right into the audio. I've rapped my knuckles on a rack with mounted equipment and could hear it. I've also identified cooling fans getting into audio. I've even personal heard banging on an exterior door loudly, getting into audio. Often, manufacturers will use a dampening compound around problem areas trying to do an after the fact fix of a problem.
CJA so called science type proudly says... "I do realize that I would fool myself all the time, about listening conclusions and many other observations, if I did listen before buying. That’s why I don’t, I bought all of my current gear based on technical parameters alone, such as specs and measurements."
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is s/o damped ?CC MR and ESA are damped.
the windings of CC MR are damped then do not absorb internal vibrations and "sing" more than s/o ?
is this right ?
i don't knowMore or less noise from the cap itself, how does this correlate to overall sound quality?
greater spatial information for damped caps ? -
listening through speakers,
i get music through my speakers...Is this supposed to happen...?Marantz 1152 DC- Denon DP 1200, Soundsmith Carmen MKII- ADS L980 - Blue Jeans IC's
