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  • jon s
    jon s Posts: 905
    edited January 2013
    Really bad news... Panasonic has shut down their plasma factory in China... An announcement is forthcoming in March. They may completely discontinue plasma. Consumers are unfortunately not buying plasmas because the newer LEDs are thinner and less power hungry.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,650
    edited January 2013
    jon s wrote: »
    Really bad news... Panasonic has shut down their plasma factory in China... An announcement is forthcoming in March. They may completely discontinue plasma. Consumers are unfortunately not buying plasmas because the newer LEDs are thinner and less power hungry.
    From what Ive read they are closing a plasma specific plant but not ceasing plasma production outright.
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  • michael1947
    michael1947 Posts: 775
    edited January 2013
    What, they gonna make 'em out in the parking lot?:cheesygrin:
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  • Syndil
    Syndil Posts: 1,582
    edited January 2013
    First CRT now plasma? Consumers are idiots.

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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,706
    edited January 2013
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324081704578234920278808676.html
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited January 2013
    First Kuro.....now Panasonic.....that's not cool!
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,650
    edited January 2013
    michael1947 wrote: »
    What, they gonna make 'em out in the parking lot?:cheesygrin:
    DIY kits.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,704
    edited January 2013
    Emlyn wrote: »
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324081704578234920278808676.html

    They are not totally out of the Plasma game. They just closed the only dedicated plasma making plant. I am sure they will keep making them at their other plants, but it doesnt make sense to keep up a dedicated plant if the sales aren't there.

    See below articles
    http://www.hometheaterequipment.com/plasma-38/panasonic-closes-plasma-plant-china-3551/

    Panasonic has announced that it is in the process of closing its Plasma assembly plant in Shanghai, China. This particular plant is the company's only facility that is totally dedicated, to the production of Plasma displays.

    Panasonic has been in the news quite a bit over the past year, but not always with new product announcements. The company has posted financial loses in three of the past four quarters, and is desperately looking to increase their profitability. With the display market being dominated by LCD-based products, the demand for Plasma displays is shrinking. While many feel that Plasma is capable of producing a superior image, Plasma displays are more expensive to build, and thus less profitable to sell.

    While this is sad news for fans of Plasma technology, a company spokesman says this closing is not the end. Panasonic has invested billions into R&D for Plasma and will continue to produce them in another plant in China and their main production facility in Japan. This may however, lead to increased prices on Plasma displays in the future
    http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1320237339

    Panasonic is planning to stop production at two of its TV factories in Japan; one LCD-TV plant and one plasma-TV plant. Panasonic also lowers their TV sales forecast but will continue to produce TVs.

    Panasonic stops production at 2 TV plants
    Panasonic is experiencing lower-than-expected sales of TVs and are losing money on their TV division. Therefore they plan to close two TV factories in Japan.

    Amagasaki plasma plant
    Panasonic plans to close the Amagasaki plasma plant to the left

    One of the factories is currently producing plasma TV panels and the other one is producing LCD-TV panels. In the coming years Panasonic plans to increase LCD capacity for small-to-medium size LCD panels and decrease LCD-TV panel capacity. Instead Panasonic plans to source LCD-TV panels from outside suppliers, instead of building their own.

    Like most TV manufacturers, Panasonic is experiencing lower demand for TVs than forecasted. Therefore Panasonic has lowered their TV sales forecast from 25 million TVs to 19 million for this financial year, as Panasonic sees 5.5 billion USD in annual losses.

    At IFA 2011 Panasonic told us that we can expect larger LCD/LED models in the 2012 line-up but it seems that Panasonic plans to use another manufacturer’s LCD-TV panels.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2013
    ^agree^ Too much of a market to completely abandon.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,650
    edited January 2013
    My ST50 was built in Mexico.:eek:The recent introduction of the new line at CES would seem to indicate they will still be behind the technology at least for the near future.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,767
    edited January 2013
    While many feel that Plasma is capable of producing a superior image

    Not just capable, plasma TV's are flat out superior. Problem is the average consumer is too blind to see past the price tag of the cheaper LCD's.
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  • Daffypuck
    Daffypuck Posts: 17
    edited January 2013
    Heres my 2 cents. If you can find one, I'd get a Pioneer Elite 60". Best plasma ever made, bar-none. I found a 50" a few years ago on clearance for $1100!
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  • mu1166
    mu1166 Posts: 172
    edited January 2013
    You see fewer and fewer plasma's on the market anymore. I am extremely happy that you all talked me into getting a plasma. Best decision I've made lately.
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  • oleon621
    oleon621 Posts: 178
    edited February 2013
    Just picked up a Panasonic P55ST50 and it looks really good.
    Front- RTI A7,(powered by ADCOM GFA 5500)
    Center- CSI5,
    Surrounds- RTI 6 and Rear Surrounds- TS 15.
    TV-Panasonic P55ST50
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    Receiver- Yamaha Aventage RX-A2000
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  • oleon621
    oleon621 Posts: 178
    edited February 2013
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    Mounted!
    Front- RTI A7,(powered by ADCOM GFA 5500)
    Center- CSI5,
    Surrounds- RTI 6 and Rear Surrounds- TS 15.
    TV-Panasonic P55ST50
    SUB-SVS PB10-NSD and PSW505
    Receiver- Yamaha Aventage RX-A2000
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited February 2013
    ^^ Nice

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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited February 2013
    Looks fantastic olean, the glare from the window might be a problem though. Might have to get ya something dark to cover the window.
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  • oleon621
    oleon621 Posts: 178
    edited February 2013
    Thanks Disneyjoe7 and Polkie2009. I did buy some dark curtains just the other day. Will be putting them up today actually. The Panny has amazing blacks, really happy with it.
    Front- RTI A7,(powered by ADCOM GFA 5500)
    Center- CSI5,
    Surrounds- RTI 6 and Rear Surrounds- TS 15.
    TV-Panasonic P55ST50
    SUB-SVS PB10-NSD and PSW505
    Receiver- Yamaha Aventage RX-A2000
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited February 2013
    You're on it oleon, dark curtains should do the trick and that plasma's colors will be gorgeous. And the blacks will be amazing!
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,704
    edited February 2013
    I just watched "The Avengers" last night on my Plasma and I had forgotten just how good my TV can look. It was like being at the theater without all the cons like not being able to pause, or have room for my lanky long legs lol....
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited February 2013
    http://www.eastcoasttvs.com/Panasonic-Plasma-HDTV-p/tcp55vt50.htm

    Panasonic 55" VT50 for 1550(ish). I just ordered one, who's next?

    The price fluctuates often.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,650
    edited February 2013
    Thats a sweet deal for a 55"VT.
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  • FittyFieFo
    FittyFieFo Posts: 482
    edited February 2013
    oleon621 wrote: »
    FA0CD33D-CEBD-4B5D-A9B7-7A5899BE2811-875-000000292FCDDBD0_zpsa77e0096.jpg

    Mounted!

    Looks Awesome!! Just received great news.... my wife said to me we need a bigger TV (huge shock for me). :eek::eek:

    Currently have a 52" and I'm eyeing one of the Panasonics. Just afraid of the glare...

    BTW: What stand are you using for your CSI5?
    Samsung LN52A850 (52" 1080P LCD TV) | RTi A9's (Fronts) | Csi A6(Center) | FXi A6 (Rear Surrounds) | SVS PB12-NSD (Sub) | Oppo BDP-103 | Panamax M5300-PM

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,704
    edited February 2013
    FittyFieFo wrote: »
    BTW: What stand are you using for your CSI5?

    It looks like its the actual TV stand thats been tweaked a bit....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • chumlie
    chumlie Posts: 8,658
    edited February 2013
    falconcry72 wrote: »
    http://www.eastcoasttvs.com/Panasonic-Plasma-HDTV-p/tcp55vt50.htm

    Panasonic 55" VT50 for 1550(ish). I just ordered one, who's next?

    The price fluctuates often.

    Have you ordered from them before ?
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  • Jhayman
    Jhayman Posts: 1,548
    edited February 2013
    A little late to the party..
    My vote for Panny like most here, I own a ST60" Professionally Calibrated.
    I actually own 3 Pannys.
    42" 50" and my 60" in the photo.
    I love them.
    My buddy owns a Kuro 60" my God it really is the best Plasma ever made.
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  • oleon621
    oleon621 Posts: 178
    edited February 2013
    FittyFieFo wrote: »
    Looks Awesome!! Just received great news.... my wife said to me we need a bigger TV (huge shock for me). :eek::eek:

    Currently have a 52" and I'm eyeing one of the Panasonics. Just afraid of the glare...

    BTW: What stand are you using for your CSI5?

    Congratulations!! Love the plasma and the glare is not as bad as other Plasma's I've seen(Samsung).

    I'm actually using a stand that came off my old Samsung LCD that I have mounted in the living room. It came in really handy and I like the way it looks.
    Front- RTI A7,(powered by ADCOM GFA 5500)
    Center- CSI5,
    Surrounds- RTI 6 and Rear Surrounds- TS 15.
    TV-Panasonic P55ST50
    SUB-SVS PB10-NSD and PSW505
    Receiver- Yamaha Aventage RX-A2000
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  • FittyFieFo
    FittyFieFo Posts: 482
    edited February 2013
    Don't mean to hijack this thread, but can someone link me a "great" Panasonic Plasma (3D) 60" TV? It doesn't need to have the SMART features as I plan on getting an OPPO-103. Don't need the finest technology, but something that is reliable and GREAT picture quality.

    Looking for something under $1,700? (Not sure if that's doable)
    Samsung LN52A850 (52" 1080P LCD TV) | RTi A9's (Fronts) | Csi A6(Center) | FXi A6 (Rear Surrounds) | SVS PB12-NSD (Sub) | Oppo BDP-103 | Panamax M5300-PM

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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,650
    edited February 2013
    FittyFieFo wrote: »
    Don't mean to hijack this thread, but can someone link me a "great" Panasonic Plasma (3D) 60" TV? It doesn't need to have the SMART features as I plan on getting an OPPO-103. Don't need the finest technology, but something that is reliable and GREAT picture quality.

    Looking for something under $1,700? (Not sure if that's doable)
    You might try seasrching for a deal on the TCP60UT50.
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  • FittyFieFo
    FittyFieFo Posts: 482
    edited February 2013
    FTGV wrote: »
    You might try seasrching for a deal on the TCP60UT50.

    Was looking on Amazon for that model. What is the "Infinite Black Panel w/ Louver Filter"
    Samsung LN52A850 (52" 1080P LCD TV) | RTi A9's (Fronts) | Csi A6(Center) | FXi A6 (Rear Surrounds) | SVS PB12-NSD (Sub) | Oppo BDP-103 | Panamax M5300-PM

    Pre-Amp: Marantz AV7005 | Amp: Emotiva XPA-5 | Speaker wires: Signal Cables | Interconnects: Signal Cables
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