Plasma or LED?

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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited December 2012
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Try it this way..

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=Panasonic++sucks&oq=Panasonic++sucks&gs_l=serp.12...29473.29473.0.34192.1.1.0.0.0.0.231.231.2-1.1.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.--Kz9SVrmA4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c341db92e3d4d65d&bpcl=40096503&biw=1920&bih=967

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=LG++sucks&oq=LG++sucks&gs_l=serp.12...75324.75540.1.77935.2.2.0.0.0.1.230.425.0j1j1.2.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.ezttxTrRC1w&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c341db92e3d4d65d&bpcl=40096503&biw=1920&bih=967

    http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=PIONEER++sucks&oq=PIONEER++sucks&gs_l=serp.12..0i7l4.23755.25631.3.28057.7.7.0.0.0.0.256.475.2-2.2.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.Sw38ICoxqfk&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=c341db92e3d4d65d&bpcl=40096503&biw=1920&bih=967

    Your link sucks, and was feeble to say the least..

    Samsung - 16.5m hits

    Panasonic - 3.28m hits

    They all have their problems, it comes down to how they handle their problems and IMO crapsung does it the worse. Thats why we love Polk in part is their great CS.

    I am not aware of crapsungs plasma problems but I am on their LCDs, great picture just went cheap on PS caps and got caught and covered 80% of the problem and left the remaining 20% to spend $300 to have someone fix it. There was so much info on the web about the problem a mom made a youtube on how to fix the problem using all the info she had found. She had no electronic experience.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
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  • mu1166
    mu1166 Posts: 172
    edited January 2013
    Man, I didn't think this would turn into a customer service and build quality thread. That's alright though.

    The GT50 is now sitting in my house and installed in my makeshift TV room due to remodeling. I must say, the difference between this and my old DLP is staggering. I am extremely pleased so far (only have about 2 hours of viewing due to work and remodeling).

    Thanks for all the help and recommendations!
    AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
    Mains: Polk LSiM707
    Center: Polk LSiM706c
    Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
    Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
    TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
    DVD: Xbox 360
    NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200
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  • MADGSF
    MADGSF Posts: 603
    edited January 2013
    Gald to hear you finally got it and note the screen does break in over time and the picture gets even better.
    AVR: Elite VSX-21TXH
    Amplifier: B&K 7250 Series ii
    Misc: Velodyne SMS-1
    Mains: RTi-10
    Center: CSi-5
    Rear: Boston DSi460
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,763
    edited January 2013
    The GT50 is now sitting in my house and installed in my makeshift TV room due to remodeling. I must say, the difference between this and my old DLP is staggering.

    Damn nice set, congrats!
    MADGSF wrote: »
    Gald to hear you finally got it and note the screen does break in over time and the picture gets even better.

    Especially after you calibrate it. :smile:
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  • mu1166
    mu1166 Posts: 172
    edited January 2013
    F1nut wrote: »
    Damn nice set, congrats!



    Especially after you calibrate it. :smile:

    Thanks! I've been extremely happy so far. Haven't had much time to watch it. I did let colored slides play for the first 100 hours, not sure what everyone thinks about that. After doing that and using some other posted settings, I'm extremely satisfied. I think it looks excellent.

    After it gets installed in it's final location, I will look for someone to calibrate it. I pretty sure there aren't to many options around where I am, but I'll figure something out.
    AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
    Mains: Polk LSiM707
    Center: Polk LSiM706c
    Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
    Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
    TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
    DVD: Xbox 360
    NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200
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  • miner
    miner Posts: 1,305
    edited January 2013
    Just a quick question about Plasma burnin - these channels that keep their logos on during the entire broadcast, will that cause a problem?
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  • miner
    miner Posts: 1,305
    edited January 2013
    mu1166 wrote: »
    Thanks! I've been extremely happy so far. Haven't had much time to watch it. I did let colored slides play for the first 100 hours, not sure what everyone thinks about that. After doing that and using some other posted settings, I'm extremely satisfied. I think it looks excellent.

    After it gets installed in it's final location, I will look for someone to calibrate it. I pretty sure there aren't to many options around where I am, but I'll figure something out.


    Try these DIY settings

    http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-566046/panasonic-tc-p55gt50-picture-settings/
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  • PubFiction
    PubFiction Posts: 105
    edited January 2013
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I have two Samsung Plasma TV's one I have had for 5-6 yrs the other is about 3yrs old now, Zero Issues.

    I also have two Samsung LCD's about the same ages as stated above, Zero issues.

    Great but I think the point people are talking about is when something does go wrong samsung is not very helpful.


    Plasma burn in is much less a problem now days, but if you have a specific channel with a logo you watch a ton you might want to stick with LCD based tech. Examples might be channels with stock tickers always running.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2013
    Panasonic had/has several anti image retention features, pixel orbiting and scrolling bars are what mine is equipped with. No "ghost logos" on my display after 3 years of use.:wink:
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  • Polkdude46
    Polkdude46 Posts: 19
    edited January 2013
    I own 2 Panasonic's plasma's 50'' upstairs next to a 10' window and no problems!! and 46'' down stairs and love um both!!
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  • Aqs612scag
    Aqs612scag Posts: 102
    edited January 2013
    I've had my Samsung 58" for 2 years running now and its been fine.
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  • Kenoking1
    Kenoking1 Posts: 1
    edited January 2013
    After intence research, I purchased the Panasonic Plasma GT 50" Series. The picture and features are unbelieveable, not to mention the 3D. If sunlight is not a factor, go with the Panasonic. If sunlight is an issue, go with the LED Samsung. I haven't seen a plasma that can beat the Panasonic.:smile: Just my Opinion!
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  • htrdln
    htrdln Posts: 116
    edited January 2013
    i really like my panasonic and think you'll enjoy that choice
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  • PubFiction
    PubFiction Posts: 105
    edited January 2013
    Just for the record the sunlight issue can often be exaggerated, my parents have an entry level 4 year old samsung plasma, north and south walls are literally all window from floor to ceiling. I never hear them complain about it and they were warned about it, obviously the best buy guy was trying to sell them a more expensive LED.

    If you can buy locally and try it you can return it if you don't like it.
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  • mu1166
    mu1166 Posts: 172
    edited January 2013
    miner wrote: »
    Try these DIY settings

    http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-566046/panasonic-tc-p55gt50-picture-settings/

    I will have to give them a shot. I have it set using the D-Nice settings after his panel prep. I'm very satisfied so far. I would like to see what the set could really do after a calibration at my place though. Hard to imagine it can look much better.
    AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
    Mains: Polk LSiM707
    Center: Polk LSiM706c
    Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
    Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
    TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
    DVD: Xbox 360
    NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
    edited January 2013
    Pan plasma,best plasma set on the market hands down!
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  • la9ers
    la9ers Posts: 117
    edited January 2013
    plasma all the way!
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  • gce
    gce Posts: 2,158
    edited January 2013
    mu1166 wrote: »
    I have it set using the D-Nice settings after his panel prep.

    That is the way to go and he even makes house calls if hes in your area.
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  • jon s
    jon s Posts: 905
    edited January 2013
    Well, if you want to buy a Panasonic plasma set, do it sooner than later. My dealer told me that Panasonic will be discontinuing plasmas sometime this year, probably before summer.
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  • Souzad
    Souzad Posts: 10
    edited January 2013
    i recently bought the plasma TV of LG its just awesome in its picture quality
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  • KellyMic
    KellyMic Posts: 166
    edited January 2013
    I have had a Samsung 59" 3D Plasma for over a year and it has been great. LCD just doesn't compare to the picture and performance of Plasma.
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  • mu1166
    mu1166 Posts: 172
    edited January 2013
    gce wrote: »
    That is the way to go and he even makes house calls if hes in your area.

    My area is North Central Iowa. I don't think he makes to many stops around here... Not much around here.
    AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
    Mains: Polk LSiM707
    Center: Polk LSiM706c
    Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
    Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
    TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
    DVD: Xbox 360
    NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200
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  • outlander
    outlander Posts: 218
    edited January 2013
    IMHO I’ll take plasma over LED/LCD any day. I have several friends with nice calibrated LCD TV’s and the colors just wrong to me. I was watching a football game the other day on a new Samsung LED and it felt like I was watching a cartoon.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited January 2013
    Man did Samsung get beat up in this thread.
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  • mu1166
    mu1166 Posts: 172
    edited January 2013
    mole' wrote: »
    Man did Samsung get beat up in this thread.

    Samsung did take quite a beating. I don't have any problem as the tv that my new Panasonic replaced still functions perfectly.

    I am very happy that I went with plasma over the LCD/LED.
    AVR: Pioneer Elite SC-67
    Mains: Polk LSiM707
    Center: Polk LSiM706c
    Rear: Polk LSiM702F/X
    Sub: SVS PC12 Ultra
    TV: Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50
    DVD: Xbox 360
    NMT: Popcorn Hour C-200
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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited January 2013
    Nothing beats the Pioneer Elite Kuro plasmas in PQ still. I have the Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD 60" inch and nothing compares in terms of black levels, realism and for duplicating cinema for movies. If something happened to our Pioneer then I would get the latest Panasonic plasma. Plasma still has more consistent black levels.

    LCD LED still hasn't fixed it's inherent problem of off angle viewing where the colors wash out when you move further and further to the side of the tv. LCD LED is still fundamentally like a laptop monitor. With plasma, I get the same PQ and black levels from looking at it from the side.

    With regards to Samsung products in general. I think they are poor quality compared to other manufacturers (Pioneer, Oppo, Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba, LG, Sharp.) Only company I wouldn't take over Samsung would be Vizio for tv's. It seems with Samsung in order to get a good quality product from them you need to be their most expensive top end model, and the quality drops off pretty quick down the chain. Where as Sony and Pioneer you get quality from top to bottom in their lineup.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited January 2013
    digitalvideo wrote: »
    Nothing beats the Pioneer Elite Kuro plasmas in PQ still. I have the Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-151FD 60" inch and nothing compares in terms of black levels, realism and for duplicating cinema for movies. If something happened to our Pioneer then I would get the latest Panasonic plasma. Plasma still has more consistent black levels.

    LCD LED still hasn't fixed it's inherent problem of off angle viewing where the colors wash out when you move further and further to the side of the tv. LCD LED is still fundamentally like a laptop monitor. With plasma, I get the same PQ and black levels from looking at it from the side.

    Agreed 100%......The Panasonic VT series has Kuro-Like Black levels!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • Tornado Red
    Tornado Red Posts: 939
    edited January 2013
    I have a 42" Panny plasma in my livingroom, and a 60" in the family room downstairs. Hard to beat Panasonic, and I get the added benefit of the 60" heating most of my basement in winter :cheesygrin:
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2013
    I just picked up a refurb 42" Panasonic Plasma X5 series this weekend for the BR for $279.

    For night time viewing it is great. Would not use in well lit room, to reflective and not bright enough.

    Picked mine up at Micro Center.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited January 2013
    New 84in LG LED......

    http://www.abt.com/product/65819/LG-84LM9600.html
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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