What do you concider audiophile gear???

jaritta
jaritta Posts: 277
edited April 2011 in Electronics
Hey guys, just throwing this one out there.

What do you guys concider audiophile gear? I guess it could be anything from speakers to speaker cables and anything inbetween.

I have been working for a av company who has some high(er) end stuff and was going to let you know what we have and concider to be audiophile gear.


We use analsys plus cables, good stuff but I peresonally wonder if they are worth the cash. We also use some supra cable.

Speakers we carry:

Kef Refrence (about 5-6k retail)
Kef q series
Anthony Gallo nuculus (about 5-6k retail)
Dali (several different lines)
Audio Note ( a UK brand)
Audio engine self powered speakers (not exactly audiophile)
Rel T5 subs, Other Rel subs
Studio electric (botique brand)
Tyler acoustics (not sure what modle number)

Projector screen

Black diamond by screen inovation 1.4 gain....awesome screen

Amps:
Manley neoclassic 250w monoblocks
Denon avr's (we are a audyssey installer)
dared tube amps
Peachtree audio
Audio note tube amp
Jolita

Dac:
Bersford and audionote dacs

Headphones:
Gardo labs
Denon
Beradynamic

I am sure i am leaving out something but do you guys concider this audiophile stuff, what else do you concider audiophile gear
Harman kardon signature 2.1 amp
Denon 3312
Epson 8700ub
Chief mount
Screen Innovations Performance Series 110in
Kef q 500 (RL)
Kef q 200 (C)
Kef q 800 (Rear RL)
REL T7 (SUB)
mx 450 remote
Sonos-Amp, Connect, Play5
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  • jaritta
    jaritta Posts: 277
    edited April 2011
    Ohhh, i knew i would leave out something,

    Magnepans (speakers)

    Velodyne bass managment systems

    Omnimic calabration units....
    Harman kardon signature 2.1 amp
    Denon 3312
    Epson 8700ub
    Chief mount
    Screen Innovations Performance Series 110in
    Kef q 500 (RL)
    Kef q 200 (C)
    Kef q 800 (Rear RL)
    REL T7 (SUB)
    mx 450 remote
    Sonos-Amp, Connect, Play5
  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2011
    Wow... That is a broad topic...
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2011
    zingo wrote: »
    Wow... That is a broad topic...
    ...and very subjective! That should be a very interesting discussion, I'll stay tune!:cool:
    DARE TO SOAR:
    “Your attitude, almost always determine your altitude in life” ;)
  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited April 2011
    Dali Euphonia MS4/MS5 is definitely Audiophile. Definitely.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2011
    stuff I can't afford that sounds better than my stuff.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,394
    edited April 2011
    Audiophile gear is gear that can move you. Anything that recreates the experience to the point of an emotional connection.

    Speakers have to be acurate and clean. They need to be as uncolored as possible.
    Amps need to supply enough current to power most speakers made
    Receivers have to have a very musical accuracy.
    Wire needs to have the ability to send the signal from A to B as uncolored as possible.
    Software players need to send the signal as clean as possible.

    These are the building blocks of an audiophile system.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited April 2011
    stuff i can't afford lol.
    Living Room Rig:D
    Rotel RSP-1069/Rotel RMB-1095/Rotel-1072/Polk lsI15's W/modded xoverW/DBsubs/Polk LsiC/lsI7's/Klipsch sub-12"the weak link"/DLP Mitsubishi 65"
    Xbox360/PS3/WII
    M.Br. setup:)
    Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
    Computer Rig:
    Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
    Headphones-Ultrasone-HFI780's w/LittleDot MK Vamp Portables Panasonic HJE-900's
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2011
    Like art (or is it pornography), you know it when you see/hear it. However, one person's audiophile gear is another person's junk.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited April 2011
    Anything thats over $1000
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,992
    edited April 2011
    stuff I can't afford that sounds better than my stuff.
    Hehe, so true.....
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,513
    edited April 2011
    That touching moment when the sound reaches your soul and may even give you goose pumps.

    Clean like the purfect breeze...that stroke of the violin, the bass, or the guitar...the light tap of a symbal, ...the voice that sends tingles up your spine....the song that reminds of the good times

    we are all looking for it, some have felt, some may never find it, but when you do you and maybe you only you will know

    Now I wish I had the money to buy it:biggrin::mad::biggrin:
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

    erat interfectorem cesar et **** dictatorem dicere a
  • DON73
    DON73 Posts: 516
    edited April 2011
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    That touching moment when the sound reaches your soul and may even give you goose pumps.

    Clean like the purfect breeze...that stroke of the violin, the bass, or the guitar...the light tap of a symbal, ...the voice that sends tingles up your spine....the song that reminds of the good times




    I had all of this listening to a jukebox in a small dark bar in Germany in the mid fifties........cost one Mark........25cents. Man what I would give to go back to those days and listen once again to songs that put tears in your beers.:smile::smile:
    TO ERR IS HUMAN. TO FORGIVE IS CANINE.
  • fishbones
    fishbones Posts: 947
    edited April 2011
    Stuff that makes you chase a never-ending sound, that will never stop draining your wallet....or pissing your wife off. Most of the equipment you listed would do a good job of that!

    ...and what George said!
    ..... ><////(*>
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,513
    edited April 2011
    DON73 wrote: »
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    That touching moment when the sound reaches your soul and may even give you goose pumps.

    Clean like the purfect breeze...that stroke of the violin, the bass, or the guitar...the light tap of a symbal, ...the voice that sends tingles up your spine....the song that reminds of the good times




    I had all of this listening to a jukebox in a small dark bar in Germany in the mid fifties........cost one Mark........25cents. Man what I would give to go back to those days and listen once again to songs that put tears in your beers.:smile::smile:

    It wasn't the music or the beers...it was the Fraulein that was a 10@2am and a 2@10am:biggrin:
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

    erat interfectorem cesar et **** dictatorem dicere a
  • jaritta
    jaritta Posts: 277
    edited April 2011
    Sorry, i guess my idea in starting this thread was to see what gear you guys thought to be high end. But i like the idea of being subjective, (the whole idea of what sounds best to you) money be damned.
    Harman kardon signature 2.1 amp
    Denon 3312
    Epson 8700ub
    Chief mount
    Screen Innovations Performance Series 110in
    Kef q 500 (RL)
    Kef q 200 (C)
    Kef q 800 (Rear RL)
    REL T7 (SUB)
    mx 450 remote
    Sonos-Amp, Connect, Play5
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,513
    edited April 2011
    Exactly...we can all venture, disagree, and colaborate but to each his own
    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

    erat interfectorem cesar et **** dictatorem dicere a
  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited April 2011
    ok, ok I just have to say it because after reading 'concider' five times, I am convinced that it is not a mistake............ it's 'consider'

    anything with cable risers and wooden volume knobs :tongue:
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,992
    edited April 2011
    jaritta wrote: »
    Sorry, i guess my idea in starting this thread was to see what gear you guys thought to be high end. But i like the idea of being subjective, (the whole idea of what sounds best to you) money be damned.
    I've heard low cost systems sound incredibly nice, yet on the same token, I have heard systems upwards of 150K that you couldn't pay me to listen too. The cost of gear can definitely influence what some would consider audiophile gear but more money does not guarantee a better end result.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • 67jason
    67jason Posts: 57
    edited April 2011
    In my opinion, audiophile is one with a passion for sound, be it music or HT. This type of person will seek the best he can find and practically afford and will then tweak that gear to get the most out of it he possibly can. That means taking the time to learn and to set things up properly. With very few exceptions (ahem, bose) the brand and the price tag has virtually nothing to do with qualifying gear as audiophile....again just my opinion.

    Is there gear that sounds, looks, and/or works better (sometimes subjectively)? Absolutely there is, but there is no magic defining line that separates audio gear in to audiophile and nonaudiophile stuff.

    Also so much of what commonly is refereed to as being audiophile is often times classified as myth and subjective. How many threads are around here about amps and IC and wire and cables etc. Use your ears and you be the judge...dont automatically qualify something as audiophile quality based on price.
  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited April 2011
    Everyone must decide for themselves what it means to be an audiophile. For me, expensive does not necessarily define audiophile gear. Nor does the emotion conjured up by great music - after all, artificially reproduced music can seldom if ever match even mediocre music performed live.

    And IMHO, that's the point - to reproduce sounds as close to life-like as possible, thus conveying as much of the true power of sound as possible.

    If I may paraphrase a review I recently read, it's like the difference between lifelike skin tones on television versus slightly green skin tones. It's not very far off from the truth, but it's irritating.

    What makes being an audiophile expensive is trying to take the mostly right picture and dial it in perfectly.
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2011
    It's different for all/most of us,, for me,,I know it when I hear it,,the speakers/system seem to disappear,and it's just me and the artist in the room,a somewhat personal/engaging relationship or "atmosphere",,one thing that I've noticed over the years,is that the more involving a rig is,,the more relaxed I become and eventually nod off.

    Laugh if you want,,but a really good rig will put me to sleep. :cool:
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,502
    edited April 2011
    You will chase it your whole life. You will never stop trying to find it, but you will never find it because it's the rig sitting at the end of the rainbow.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited April 2011
    Audiophile to me means something that can bring the music to life.

    It doesn't have to be the most expensive gear it just has to work seamlessly together, bringing the music to the forefront and immersing me in the sound not the gear. I want to want to listen to music. Not just because I have a stereo, but because I love to listen to it. It may mean something as small as cables or as big as speakers can change the way you listen to music.

    Like steveinaz said in another post.
    I always had that tail-chasing, agonizing, nagging "thing" going on in the back of my mind that told me I was still listening to the gear, and not the music. That is, until I bought my Fritz Carbon 7's. Now I just enjoy the music. It took 10 years to get back "there" after totally re-doing my system in 2001.
  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited April 2011
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    * Magneplanar 3.7
    * Magneplanar 1.7
    * Magneplanar CC3
    * Magneplanar C1
    * Velodyne


    is definitely Audiophile. Definitely.



    The illusion and reality get mixed in space and makes you feel the experience of being part of this true musical universe, is actually have in my room as close to the interpreter.
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117202
  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited April 2011
    Bernal wrote: »
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    * Magneplanar 3.7
    * Magneplanar 1.7
    * Magneplanar CC3
    * Magneplanar C1
    * Velodyne


    is definitely Audiophile. Definitely.



    The illusion and reality get mixed in space and makes you feel the experience of being part of this true musical universe, is actually have in my room as close to the interpreter.
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117202

    Thats funny, assuming your joking after us giving you grief for posting the Maggie graphics:biggrin:
  • Hawkeye
    Hawkeye Posts: 1,313
    edited April 2011
    jaritta wrote: »
    Sorry, i guess my idea in starting this thread was to see what gear you guys thought to be high end. But i like the idea of being subjective, (the whole idea of what sounds best to you) money be damned.

    High end to me is what makes ME feel good about my purchase. It does not matter whether it is a 500$ or 500K system. There will ALWAYS be something more expensive or "better" coming to market.

    I've auditioned a million plus system (not that I can afford it)and didn't care for it. The slam and umph was there, but it didn't move me when listening to music.

    Just because somebody has a "high-end" brand does not make it high end. I have what some folks would consider in that league. It is only high -end because I think it so. Some body else may come to my home and think it sounds like dog-doo. I respect that and have enjoyed systems costing thousands less than I have spent.

    I can appreciate your thinking pattern about the real high end of gear. If you want to know about something like that, I'd suggest Audio Aficionado, where these guys drop 50K on an amp at the drop of a hat and not think twice.

    Gordon
    2 Channel -
    Martin Logan Spire, 2 JL Audio F112 subs
    McIntosh C1000 Controller with Tube pre amp, 2 MC501 amplifiers, MD1K Transport & DAC, MR-88 Tuner
    WireWorld Eclipse 6.0 speaker wire and jumpers, Eclipse 5^2 Squared Balanced IC's. Silver Eclipse PCs (5)
    Symposium Rollerblocks 2+ (16)Black Diamond Racing Mk 3 pits (8)
  • greybeard
    greybeard Posts: 60
    edited April 2011
    I always perfrom key-word searches on Craigslist using the term "audiophile". It provides in turn, good finds, unlikely products and hilarious opinions. Never a dull moment.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,065
    edited April 2011
    It's different for all/most of us,, for me,,I know it when I hear it,,the speakers/system seem to disappear,and it's just me and the artist in the room,a somewhat personal/engaging relationship or "atmosphere",,one thing that I've noticed over the years,is that the more involving a rig is,,the more relaxed I become and eventually nod off.

    Laugh if you want,,but a really good rig will put me to sleep. :cool:


    Very well said, and I agree!!!!
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,065
    edited April 2011
    As said above HI-END is not about the cost of the rig, it is about synergy within the rig that one puts together. hell a good transport can be had on the cheap all day long, and the used market is like a vial of crack rocks for the street working audiophile **** that most of us have become...


    Tweeking Synergy where the Blacks are Black, and yes I do know where to buy black paint..