Pioneer VSX-30 vs Pioneer 1120k

Plus the vsx 30 doesn't have preouts and the 1120 does. Usually you'll see a jump in price between receivers when they add preouts.

cnh wrote: »

+1, also, correct me if I'm wrong...the 30 has NO pre-outs, that starts at the higher models and the 1120?

tonyb got you first!

cnh

...and I'm slow.

stangjason wrote: »

So you are basicly saying you are paying an extra $200 for the name elite and some 12v trigger that I have little idea of what it does but I'm supposed to be impressed by :biggrin:.

So would it be worth my while to sale my Harman Kardon AVR 635 to buy a 1120k if it put it within reach of my budget?

Yes, plus the extra year warranty

and IMHO yes

The Pioneer 1120 is $500.00 @ J&R

stangjason wrote: »

So you are basicly saying you are paying an extra $200 for the name elite and some 12v trigger that I have little idea of what it does but I'm supposed to be impressed by :biggrin:.

So would it be worth my while to sale my Harman Kardon AVR 635 to buy a 1120k if it put it within reach of my budget?

I think you need to read the post again. No where did I say anything about spending 200 more.

1120k is 499 at Vanns.com right now. VSX-32 is 599 at abes of maine.
Yes its worth it.

Retail on these is 749 and 799, a $50 difference. Notice, no one said anything about a $200 difference.

You were trying to compare two totally different receivers earlier, the 1120k and the vsx-30. Those two aren't even in the same league. The elite line overlaps the standard line and you have to take that into consideration.

lmao a pioneer elite with no pre-outs? Not very elite imho! I do love that logo though. Throw on a thx logo and you have one heck of a great sounding receiver. Okay anyways was wondering if anyone could fill me one this... A secondary receiver with pre-outs and no 12v trigger. Is there an easy way to get around this or should you just leave the amp on all the time/ manually turn it on and off?

The line didn't go down in quality, they just provided solutions in the <$1000 line.
Remember the Elite line used to be primarily >$1000.

They could just not have anything in that price range, and you could go spend >$1000 again, like olden days.

Quality for the price, is about as expected. If you want better quality, fork up the money. That's how it is with anything, you get what you pay for.

People over at the 1120 AVS thread are claiming that Pioneer has stoped production on these because of new models coming out in a couple of months or so.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1254047&page=101

Post # 3015 says they talked to pioneer csr.

Not sure what that means but just thought it was worth sharing.

I buy a LOT of stuff from Amazon and pay $79 a year for 2 day shipping on anything I buy. I bought my 1130 there this week for $498 and for $3.99 more I had it here the next day.
When it's all set up I'll probably have an Adcom 7500 connected and either leave it on or just turn it off manually. That's the way I do my Adcom 5800 that's connected to an Adcom pre.

rdb2001 wrote: »

I kind of disagree. I bought the elite vsx21 with preouts when it first dropped for 450 shipped to my door. That was just in 09. 21 and 23 were priced lower than 1000 and both included preouts. I think they are taking more features away charging the same price because of the elite name. My old 21 was alot bigger than that vsx30 now and cost about the same from the same places.

The VSX21 is a much better sounding and feature driven receiver then the VSX30. I do not like the 30 or 31 receivers. I really think it starts today with the vsx32 and 33. These are Elite receivers with preouts , the 30 / 31 don't make any sense and remind of of a regular Pioneer receiver. Smaller chassis no preouts. I don't get it this year.

On a side note the SC line is still killer and I'm condisering picking up a SC-37 to replace my SC-07 due to IP control. What that meanns for those who don't understand Automation is the receiver has the ability to be fully controlled over a Ethernet connection. I can use "IP" commands to control the receiver in every single way. This is excellent. It's 3D and all that crap which means nothing to me , I just like the IP control over IR and Rs232c.