Receiver woes....

13

Comments

  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    I wouldn't expect too much of a difference since you're using Monitor-series speakers. Always read that they don't need much power to really sing. Alot of people are happy having them hooked up to AVR's.

    I would expect you to hear some difference though listening to 2-channel/direct mode. More detail+better dynamics? Those were the most apparent differences when I went from AVR to external amp.

    i have the AQ IC i got from you and then some new ones. you think that makes a difference at all?

    everything else is hooked up with Monoprice HDMIs, Monoprive 12awg wire with bananas.

    i do like the remote with the SC-07. its NICE!!

    i have yet to try 2-ch yet. i will do it tonight and also hook the M50 directly to the AVR and see how that sounds. might not need the amp til i get my Monitor70 back from UPS and get them fixed and then the RTi 12s
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    Rick88 wrote: »
    Mole', did you manually set it up or let MCACC do an auto setup?

    Auto


    first thing i did as pert the setup directions from Pioneer



    gonna do it again just to make sure.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    Rick88 wrote: »
    Did it set your M50's (or any other speakers) to large? And what crossover? I would start out setting them all to small and an 80hz crossover.
    set the M50 and CS2 to Large. not sure on the Hz. ill look right now
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    M50s and CS2 set to small and 80hz
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    Rick88 wrote: »
    +1. You need to be patient in setting up/getting accustomed to a new receiver.

    oh WOW!!


    the change from Large to small and the 80Hz made a big difference.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    Rick88 wrote: »
    Great to hear mole'. Good things come to those who wait. When you get your new Rti speakers and get it all set up, you should be happy for a long time.

    I then recommend you sit back, relax, refrain from more *uprades* for awhile, and enjoy your money well spent...

    You have a very fine setup!:D
    thanks for yours and everyone elses help so far.

    adding 2 RTi 12s, 1 CSi5, and 1 Epik 15" Sub.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • jayman_1975
    jayman_1975 Posts: 672
    edited August 2010
    cnh wrote: »
    More musical that a Denon 3805? Maybe by a bit? But not much. Those older Denons are IMO better than a lot of the newer models. And I've heard the Marantz 5003, 6003 (I assume we're talking about surround receivers and not 2 channel receivers because there is no 6300 unless that's an ancient receiver?) many times while I was in China....with KEF, B&W, Klipsch, Dali speakers (it sounded best with the Dalis?). Actually I found the Marantz a tad brighter than an 'older' Denon. Nonetheless I think the Marantz is a fine choice (agreed).

    cnh

    This is the Marantz unit I was talking about. It exists and it sounds great. Mind you.. now that i think about it he has Energy c-5 speakers and i was using my Denon 3805 with polk monitor 70's. It's a bit of an unfair comparison i guess.
    Onkyo TX NR 5008 modified by The Upgrade Company
    Oppo BDP 93 modified by The Upgrade Company
    Arcam CD37
    Monitor Audio Gold GS 60
    Revolver Audio Music 5 towers.(surround)
    Vandersteen V2W
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited August 2010
    I was just reading through your posts and one important factor has been left out. It's going to take a few weeks for the unit to burn-in and all the components (there are a lot of components in there) to settle in. I would researve judgement on it until at least a good three weeks of constant use. It took my NAD a month of watching TV, movies, and listening to music before it really reached it peak performance and then it really started to sing.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • kingtut
    kingtut Posts: 813
    edited August 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    thanks for yours and everyone elses help so far.

    adding 2 RTi 12s, 1 CSi5, and 1 Epik 15" Sub.

    The RTi, CSi and sub will improve your sound quite a bit. Just make sure your sub is set up at an optimum location and calibrate it w/an SPL meter.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    I was just reading through your posts and one important factor has been left out. It's going to take a few weeks for the unit to burn-in and all the components (there are a lot of components in there) to settle in. I would researve judgement on it until at least a good three weeks of constant use. It took my NAD a month of watching TV, movies, and listening to music before it really reached it peak performance and then it really started to sing.

    did not know the AVRs had to burn in. i knew the new IC and wires had to. thanks
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    kingtut wrote: »
    The RTi, CSi and sub will improve your sound quite a bit. Just make sure your sub is set up at an optimum location and calibrate it w/an SPL meter.

    new setup would be

    RTi12 for Fronts, CSi5 for the center, Monitor 70 (if i get them fixed) for the rear, if not them the Monitor 50 and monitor 40 for SS. and then the Epik sub.

    should be nice. i would like to see how the M70 handle as rear speakers.


    im thinking i need to pick up a good 5 ch amp now.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,081
    edited August 2010
    Good decision to go with the pioneer! :D Just FYI, set the subwoofer to PLUS if you want your sub to play in 2-channel stereo mode. Many here don't think a separate power amp is required with the ICE amps in the SC series but it's up to you. With the RT series Polks, I'd go with a power amp that will tame the highs a bit such as a Parasound or B&K. Adcoms tend to be a bit brighter.
    ____________________________________________________________

    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 1.2TLs + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X Polk Surrounds + 4 X ATMOS, SVS PB13 Ultra X 2, McIntosh C2300, Marantz AV7704, Bob Carver Crimson Beauty 350 Tube Mono Blocks, Carver Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400x5, ADCOM GFA 7807, Panasonic UB420, Sim Audio Moon 380D DAC, EPSON Pro Cinema 6050
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited August 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    did not know the AVRs had to burn in. i knew the new IC and wires had to. thanks

    Sure! Any electronic component needs to burn and settle in.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    dpowell wrote: »
    Good decision to go with the pioneer! :D Just FYI, set the subwoofer to PLUS if you want your sub to play in 2-channel stereo mode. Many here don't think a separate power amp is required with the ICE amps in the SC series but it's up to you. With the RT series Polks, I'd go with a power amp that will tame the highs a bit such as a Parasound or B&K. Adcoms tend to be a bit brighter.

    im still learning the SC-07. so far its nice!. will the Acurus 250x3 amp i have hooked up now be OK for the RTi12 and the CSi5?

    that or pick up a nice 5 channel amp and sell my Adcom and Acurus amps.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Sure! Any electronic component needs to burn and settle in.

    im learning that now.........

    :(
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,081
    edited August 2010
    Rick88 wrote: »
    The Acurus should really make those Rti's sing mole'. :p

    I would think so as well. Have you tried using just the internal ICE amps to compare?
    ____________________________________________________________

    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 1.2TLs + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X Polk Surrounds + 4 X ATMOS, SVS PB13 Ultra X 2, McIntosh C2300, Marantz AV7704, Bob Carver Crimson Beauty 350 Tube Mono Blocks, Carver Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400x5, ADCOM GFA 7807, Panasonic UB420, Sim Audio Moon 380D DAC, EPSON Pro Cinema 6050
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    Rick88 wrote: »
    The Acurus should really make those Rti's sing mole'. :p

    I would use it for the front trio and either use the Adcom or the receiver to power the surrounds. Since you already have the Adcom why not give it a try?

    i was planning on using the Adcom for my rear. have not had the time to go pick up the RTis yet. looking at getting them next weekend
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    dpowell wrote: »
    I would think so as well. Have you tried using just the internal ICE amps to compare?

    not yet. but i will here soon.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    Rick88 wrote: »
    Agreed. You may find that the Elite powers your speakers well enough on it's own. If I were to purchase an ICE powered receiver I would have to give it a listen using just the internal amps just to see what all the buzz is about.

    should have time this weekend to play with everything. just been really busy with school starting back up for everyone.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited August 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    im learning that now.........

    :(

    Don't be sad dude. Once that baby is fully burned in, you will really hear what it can do.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited August 2010
    Still waiting on pics! :D:D:D

    Give us some pie!
    Truck setup
    Alpine 9856
    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


    heiney9 wrote: »
    Any clue how to use the internet? Found it in about 10 sec.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    Still waiting on pics! :D:D:D

    Give us some pie!

    oh ya, i forgot.

    i know, no pics = it did not happen.

    what do you want pics of?
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited August 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    oh ya, i forgot.

    i know, no pics = it did not happen.

    what do you want pics of?

    Not so, just want to see the setup itself :)

    There are some really nice looking (and I bet equally sounding) setups in the System Showcase.
    Truck setup
    Alpine 9856
    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


    heiney9 wrote: »
    Any clue how to use the internet? Found it in about 10 sec.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    next ? now is

    i have my SC-07, Acurua 250x3 and adcom 100x2 amps. i picked up a B&K Ref 10 prepro last month and its just sitting there. should i use this or just sell it?

    now i was thinking of selling my 2 current Amps and getting a good single 5 ch amp. atleast 200wpc@8ohms. i dont have the space and trying not to double stack anything of the bigger gear.

    gonna wait a month before i do anything tho. wanna give everything some time to burn it first.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    Not so, just want to see the setup itself :)

    There are some really nice looking (and I bet equally sounding) setups in the System Showcase.

    mine is still all coming together. work in process, but ill have some pics up soon.

    shoot, stop by on your drive back home and you can see it and maybe help me out some.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited August 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    mine is still all coming together. work in process, but ill have some pics up soon.

    shoot, stop by on your drive back home and you can see it and maybe help me out some.

    I don't see why not, although I expect to get to Northern CA Tuesday night (4-6am or so depending) so backtrack 6-7hours where I'll be in the L.A. area it'll be midnight there :eek:

    Appreciate the offer, who knows though I might be able to come up with something :D

    Just bought a GPS too since I had mine stolen last year while in Chicago :mad:
    Truck setup
    Alpine 9856
    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


    heiney9 wrote: »
    Any clue how to use the internet? Found it in about 10 sec.
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    I don't see why not, although I expect to get to Northern CA Tuesday night (4-6am or so depending) so backtrack 6-7hours where I'll be in the L.A. area it'll be midnight there :eek:

    Appreciate the offer, who knows though I might be able to come up with something :D

    Just bought a GPS too since I had mine stolen last year while in Chicago :mad:

    its all good man. no worries.

    :D

    have a safe drive.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,081
    edited August 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    next ? now is

    i have my SC-07, Acurua 250x3 and adcom 100x2 amps. i picked up a B&K Ref 10 prepro last month and its just sitting there. should i use this or just sell it?

    now i was thinking of selling my 2 current Amps and getting a good single 5 ch amp. atleast 200wpc@8ohms. i dont have the space and trying not to double stack anything of the bigger gear.

    gonna wait a month before i do anything tho. wanna give everything some time to burn it first.

    You could always pair the B&K with the Adcom, a good CDP and some SDA's to make a nice starter 2-channel rig! :D
    ____________________________________________________________

    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 1.2TLs + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X Polk Surrounds + 4 X ATMOS, SVS PB13 Ultra X 2, McIntosh C2300, Marantz AV7704, Bob Carver Crimson Beauty 350 Tube Mono Blocks, Carver Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400x5, ADCOM GFA 7807, Panasonic UB420, Sim Audio Moon 380D DAC, EPSON Pro Cinema 6050
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited August 2010
    dpowell wrote: »
    You could always pair the B&K with the Adcom, a good CDP and some SDA's to make a nice starter 2-channel rig! :D

    dont have the space for another setup

    unless i wanna put it in the garage, and i dont really wanna do that.
    mole'
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter
  • dpowell
    dpowell Posts: 3,081
    edited August 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    dont have the space for another setup

    unless i wanna put it in the garage, and i dont really wanna do that.

    Too bad. I ended up finishing my garage and put the 2-channel rig there. :)
    ____________________________________________________________

    polkaudio Fully Modded SDA SRS 1.2TLs + Dreadnaught, LSiM706c, 4 X Polk Surrounds + 4 X ATMOS, SVS PB13 Ultra X 2, McIntosh C2300, Marantz AV7704, Bob Carver Crimson Beauty 350 Tube Mono Blocks, Carver Sunfire Signature Cinema Grande 400x5, ADCOM GFA 7807, Panasonic UB420, Sim Audio Moon 380D DAC, EPSON Pro Cinema 6050
    · Share on FacebookShare on Twitter