APC H10Blk Power Conditioner w/Groneberg PC

criverajr · September 2009

I have for sale an APC H10Blk Power Conditioner which will come with a Groneberg Quatro Reference Power Cable which is 5' long. The unit is in very good condition and works flawlessly, here are some specs, stock photo as this is pack and ready to go. No original box or manual, paypal add 3%. Asking 175.00 shipped to your with the upgraded power cable.

Input 1x 10' Power Cord with 3-prong plug (NEMA 5-15R)
2x Coaxial F connector inputs
1x RJ11 telephone line input Output 12x 3-prong AC power outlets (NEMA 5-15P)
2x Coaxial F connector outputs
2x RJ11 Telephone outputs Surge Energy Rating 4949 joules Battery None Typical Backup Runtime N/A Audible Alarm None Agency Certifications UL 1449, UL 1012, UL 498, UL+CSA FCC Part 68, Industry Canada Compatibility Most AC powered A/V equipment (rack mountable) Environmental Requirements 32 - 104 °F (-0 - 40 °C), 0 - 95% Relative Humidity Dimensions 17 x 3.7 x 9.5" (43.2 x 9.5 x 24.1 cm) WxHxD Weight 16.1 lb (7.3 kg).

criverajr · September 2009

Real Pics of Unit

concealer404 · September 2009

Bump for a good deal, solid unit.

criverajr · September 2009

Just selling the APC for 125.00 plus shipping.

CRj

inspiredsports · September 2009

I've sent you a PM, but forgot to ask what happened to the original 10' cable listed as I do not see it in the photos.

danz1906 · September 2009

How much for the Groneberg power cord?

inspiredsports · September 2009

I PM'd for both last night. He must be away from the computer today

bdaley6509 · September 2009

next in line...

criverajr · September 2009

Sale pending will go down the line. Ships tuesday.

CRj

inspiredsports · September 2009

Thanks Carlos!

Funds were just sent for APC, APC Original Cord and 5' Gronberg Cord

Sincerely,
Greg

criverajr · September 2009

sold!!!!

inspiredsports · September 2009

I'm psyched!

I had a post in "Wanted to Buy" for a 5 or 6' Signal Cable MagicPower and I think from what I've seen (Gebby/Erik Tracy/etc.) the Groneberg is as good as or better.

I've also been looking to clean up my power and add protection as I leave my system on 24/7.

I'm looking forward to receiving. Thanks.

inspiredsports · September 2009

An amazing club member to deal with!

The APC and 10' Power Cord, plus the Groneberg Reference Power cord are in pristine shape and have already been put to work; the Groneberg powering my Yaqin CD-1 tube buffer (NICE cable) and the APC powering EVERYTHING.

Thanks Carlos! I've left high marks for you in the feedback section.

Pauly · September 2009

Glad your happy.

Carlos is a top notch seller.

Pauly

heiney9 · September 2009

inspiredsports wrote: »

An amazing club member to deal with!

The APC and 10' Power Cord, plus the Groneberg Reference Power cord are in pristine shape and have already been put to work; the Groneberg powering my Yaqin CD-1 tube buffer (NICE cable) and the APC powering EVERYTHING.

Thanks Carlos! I've left high marks for you in the feedback section.

Let us know what you think of the unit. I have an H15 that I am throughly impressed with.

H9

inspiredsports · September 2009

heiney9 wrote: »

Let us know what you think of the unit. I have an H15 that I am thoroughly impressed with it.

H9

My first impressions are 100% favorable (and I'm going to be more relaxed as I leave my solid state gear powered up 24/7 and used to worry during electrical storms when I was away or sleeping).

Before I firmed up the buy from criverajr, I went directly to apc.com and downloaded the specs into an Excel spreadsheet to make side-by-side comparisons.

I then shopped eBay, Amazon, etc. to get current pricing for brand new units and I found the H10Blk to be about $185 delivered and the H15 around $245 delivered (USD)

In the specs, there were only 5 differences, and 2 were in FAVOR OF THE H10 and one was the weight which is a moot point.

--- The H10 comes WITH a 10' power cord whereas the H15 has no cord provided.
--- The H10 operates from 5-113 degrees F and the H15 from a narrower range of 32-104 degrees F.
--- H10 wieghs 16.1 lbs and H15 weighs 16.7 lbs.
--- H10 is $50,000 equipment protection warranty and H15 is $75,000 (USD)
--- H10 is 49498 Joules (140kAmps) and H15 is 5270 Joules (160kAmps)

Unless you require the extra 272 Joules, the H10 is a screaming bargain.

heiney9 · September 2009

The display readout is different and I bought mine NIB from Tiger Direct for $99 shipped to my door

. Wish I would have bought another for the office rig.

It serves it's function better than I thought it would. I'm sold.

H9

P.s. Thanks for fixing my spelling error.

inspiredsports · September 2009

Is yours the black or white colored unit?

inspiredsports · September 2009

heiney9 wrote: »

P.s. Thanks for fixing my spelling error.

You don't miss much

(my wife is a teacher and she corrects anything I write with RED INK !)

heiney9 · September 2009

I type real fast at work and am usually doing about 3 things so make a few mistakes. Should really use spell check, but I don't.

inspiredsports · September 2009

inspiredsports wrote: »

Is yours the black or white colored unit?

I see the white H10 is now $118 delivered from Tiger Direct, but it seems they don't discount the black version and there is no trace of the H15. I also notice that is does have a slightly different faceplate with no output percentage indicator LED's. Last, it is listed as APC H10 AV H Type Power Regulator instead of H10Blk or H10Wht.

comfortablycurt · September 2009

I got a silver H10 from Tiger Direct when they had them on sale for $99.

I've been using it for a couple months now, and couldn't be happier with it. Cleans the sound up very nicely, without coloring it at all. The voltage regulation is a very nice feature as well.

All the blue LED's also make for some nice ambiance when listening with the lights turned down.:)

heiney9 · September 2009

inspiredsports wrote: »

Is yours the black or white colored unit?

It's actually silver and yes the black would have been a little nicer but for $99. It doesn't look bad at all, but I do have it seperated from the rest of my components.

inspiredsports · September 2009

It's all good. These things are great looking, provide much needed protection, and it seems my noise floor is even "blacker" all the way around.

I have a dedicated circuit powering it so there is not much more I can do with my current budget.

I guess the one last tweak I will spring for will be one of those fancy MIT/PS Audio/etc. $75-$100 duplex outlets to replace the 69 cent special the electrician provided.

inspiredsports · September 2009

I do have another comment and a couple of question. (maybe I should start a new thread

)

I purchased the APC H10 to add protection and clean up my current, but price was a big part of the equation. With that said, I generally spend up if I'm convinced of the better long term value of a dollar spent.

I know PS Audio UPC 200's (and Shunyata to a lesser, but increasing I think, degree) have a big following, and while they are clearly more money, don't cost a fortune IF you can find one used.

Do folks with the the higher line stuff just laugh at the APC, or is it truly the upper mid-tier product I judge it to be?

Last, is buying a used UPC a "false economy", or do the materials inside maintain their electrical integrity for a long time?

mmadden28 · September 2009

APC is good stuff--This unit's next higher up model the H15 was the OEM for the Rotel RLC 1040. I'm not sure if this model was as well, but I'm pretty sure this H10 unit is the same build structure as the H15, just w/o the AVR (and the other differences that you stated already).

Oh yeah and the faceplate can be spray painted with reportedly good results. I picked up 2 (or was it 3) of the H15's in silver and plan to spray paint them-I already have the paint (just not the time). I'm sure you can paint the whole thing, but if its in a rack (as mine is) then I don't see a reason to (except for resale maybe).

I'm very happy with my H15, if for no other reason than the build. It feels sturdy-all
metal, and nice build quality inside. I know I have a pic of the innards around here somewhere....Oh yeah its rack mountable too..

mmadden28 · September 2009

inspiredsports wrote: »

Last, is buying a used UPC a "false economy", or do the materials inside maintain their electrical integrity for a long time?

UPS? For battery backup? I believe like any batteries, they have a finite life--typically 5 years-but are replaceable--but they cost a pretty penny.

Oh yeah, and I don't care how hi-end a power conditioner/surge protector is--It will not stop a direct lighting hit.

inspiredsports · September 2009

mmadden28 wrote: »

UPS? For battery backup? I believe like any batteries, they have a finite life--typically 5 years-but are replaceable--but they cost a pretty penny.

Oh yeah, and I don't care how hi-end a power conditioner/surge protector is--It will not stop a direct lighting hit.

I should have been clearer. I was referencing the PS Audio UPC 200 that many around Club Polk use and seem to hold in high esteem.

inspiredsports · September 2009

hmmm . . . the internet is a strange and mysterious place . . .

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?powrcond&1257687880

heiney9 · September 2009

I'm not sure you'll get much better filtering and regulation with the PS Audio at 4X the price. I've never compared the 2 units, but I really wasn't expecting much from the APC (and I knew then that Rotel's were the exact same unit). This thing has lowered the noise floor, added a bit of clarity and depth as well as cleaned up my TV signal very nicely. It has stayed out of the way completely while doing it's job. I am very impressed and I'm about as critical as one can get with these types of tweaks

I'd say the next step would be a big one up to a Power Regenerator.

mmadden28 · September 2009

inspiredsports wrote: »

I should have been clearer. I was referencing the PS Audio UPC 200 that many around Club Polk use and seem to hold in high esteem.

inspiredsports wrote: »

Last, is buying a used UPC a "false economy", or do the materials inside maintain their electrical integrity for a long time?

Ahh--While I think (just my impression) most of the items in them are likely quite durable--I think the biggest concern on a non factory recertified used unit would be if the unit has seen any 'action' in its lifetime. In otherwords, has it had to sacrifice itself in anyway to protect a prior owners equipment rendering it either dead or weakened.
I wonder if the warranty and protection guarantee is transferrable on the PS audio units. ??

APC H10Blk Power Conditioner w/Groneberg PC

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