Some talk me out of getting an Emotiva
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comfortablycurt wrote: »x2
What?
I wasn't aware that Polk LSi's and the vintage SDA's were such entry level equipment. Sure, they don't cost 30,000 dollars a pair, but not everyone has that kind of scratch.
Is it possible that some people use Polk speakers because they...like how they sound?
Sorry, not to pick on you Curt but this makes it easy for me to say what I want to. (at the end of post)
I wasn't aware that Emo's RPA1 and the RSP1 were such entry level equipment. Sure, they don't cost 30,000 dollars each, but not everyone has that kind of scratch.
Is it possible that some people use Emo elctronics because they...like how they sound?
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george daniel wrote: »Ding,ding,ding
Jesse's right,, 70 % HT,, then it was made for consumers like yourself. Me,,I'm thinking about trying a Bryston,, one of these Big A$$ 4 B thingeys. Good luck in your journey.
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Well now I'm sure Bose is laughing all the way to the bank with their LACK of "critical acclaim"
I doubt any Bose owner went looking to make sure that Bose had critical acclaim, but they are enjoying their systems all the same without it.
I know that I enjoy my system without worrying if any of the pieces in it got critical acclaim, and as far as I know ALL of the companies in it are/were successful.
It's snobs like you who give audiophiles a bad name, which is why I stay as far away from that title as possible!Who's talking about staying in business? I'm talking about being successful in making a product that receives critical acclaim. Bose has been in business for a long time, I wouldn't call anything they've made successful.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
DING, DING, DING! And we have the winning common sense statements right here folks!:Dcomfortablycurt wrote: »x2
What?
I wasn't aware that Polk LSi's and the vintage SDA's were such entry level equipment. Sure, they don't cost 30,000 dollars a pair, but not everyone has that kind of scratch.
Is it possible that some people use Polk speakers because they...like how they sound?"As you might be able to tell, I've been contemplating getting an Emotiva for some time, but I'm not convinced dropping money on an external amplifier is a good idea, unless I'm sure the outcome is worth the money."
XPA-5 is worth the money. This afternoon, with my LSi9s, Coltrane was in the room. Or so it seemed. (Must admit, it doesn't always seem that way, but it did today.)
Perhaps one day Emotiva will build an amp with a vacuum tube sticking out of the top, thereby disarming all criticism.Sorry, not to pick on you Curt but this makes it easy for me to say what I want to. (at the end of post)
I wasn't aware that Emo's RPA1 and the RSP1 were such entry level equipment. Sure, they don't cost 30,000 dollars each, but not everyone has that kind of scratch.
Is it possible that some people use Emo elctronics because they...like how they sound?
Made the edits to show how silly some of these threads start sounding.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
Well now I'm sure Bose is laughing all the way to the bank with their LACK of "critical acclaim"
I doubt any Bose owner went looking to make sure that Bose had critical acclaim, but they are enjoying their systems all the same without it.
I know that I enjoy my system without worrying if any of the pieces in it got critical acclaim, and as far as I know ALL of the companies in it are/were successful.
It's snobs like you who give audiophiles a bad name, which is why I stay as far away from that title as possible!
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comfortablycurt wrote: »x2
What?
I wasn't aware that Polk LSi's and the vintage SDA's were such entry level equipment. Sure, they don't cost 30,000 dollars a pair, but not everyone has that kind of scratch.
Is it possible that some people use Polk speakers because they...like how they sound?
If you read what I wrote I said "almost" everything made "today". I wasn't aware the SDA or LSI was still in production.
It's just comical that some here take every chance to bash Emotiva yet they do so from a website ran by a company that sells the majority of there equipment in the same price bracket. Saying it's "entry level" stuff and that you need $2000 amps to run your RTI series speakers.:rolleyes: -
It's snobs like you who give audiophiles a bad name, which is why I stay as far away from that title as possible!
Don't worry, you'd never get an audiophile card anyway.Political Correctness'.........defined
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If you read what I wrote I said "almost" everything made "today". I wasn't aware the SDA or LSI was still in production.
Ummmmmm........The LSi series is still in production.It's just comical that some here take every chance to bash Emotiva yet they do so from a website ran by a company that sells the majority of there equipment in the same price bracket. Saying it's "entry level" stuff and that you need $2000 amps to run your RTI series speakers.:rolleyes:
What's comical is your lack of knowledge.Political Correctness'.........defined
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If you read what I wrote I said "almost" everything made "today". I wasn't aware the SDA or LSI was still in production.
It's just comical that some here take every chance to bash Emotiva yet they do so from a website ran by a company that sells the majority of there equipment in the same price bracket. Saying it's "entry level" stuff and that you need $2000 amps to run your RTI series speakers.:rolleyes:
Umm...I'm pretty sure the LSi series is still in production. In fact, I'm absolutely certain that they are.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that you need a 2000 dollar amp to run RTi's. Not to say that you can't, or shouldn't, but it's definitely not necessary.
My RTi's sound just fine running off of my 350 dollar Onkyo 606 AVR.
What you've got to bear in mind, is that not everyone here even runs Polk speakers anymore. Polk isn't the epitome of hi-fi sound, and they don't claim to be. They've always considered themselves to be something of a gateway to hi-fi. Many many people here started out with Polk speakers, and have since moved up the ladder to much more expensive speakers. They still stick around here though, because there is a huge base of knowledge here, and there's a very family like atmosphere.The nirvana inducer-
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comfortablycurt wrote: »Umm...I'm pretty sure the LSi series is still in production. In fact, I'm absolutely certain that they are.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that you need a 2000 dollar amp to run RTi's. Not to say that you can't, or shouldn't, but it's definitely not necessary.
My RTi's sound just fine running off of my 350 dollar Onkyo 606 AVR.
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I would't want one. It's just a name people give themselves to make themselves sound important and different, when the truth is they are just as dumb & unimportant as everyone else.
Nothing like being a legend in your own mind. Too bad the delusional poor souls don't know that no one else gives a crap.Don't worry, you'd never get an audiophile card anyway.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
I would't want one. It's just a name people give themselves to make themselves sound important and different, when the truth is they are just as dumb & unimportant as everyone else.
Nothing like being a legend in your own mind. Too bad the delusional poor souls don't know that no one else gives a crap.
Some of us aspire to greater heights. Obviously, you're not one of them and that's fine, but how dare you pass judgement on those that do and/or have. As such, your comments in this thread make you seem rather foolish. I would suggest you not comment any further and remove all doubt.Political Correctness'.........defined
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You have it backwards. I have come a long way since my first system Jesse.
The difference between you & I is that I always try to remember where I started & not let my ego make me arrogant, condescending & generally unhelpful when it comes to helping out others.
You are the one who is ALWAYS classifiying gear as entry, mid, hi-fi. If going up the audio chain makes me as obnoxious as you, then yeah, I'll skip it.
I don't care where a person is on the audio chain, I simply try to help them get the best gear they can within their budget & urge them to spend a little more to really bring out the best in their gear.
I can't remember when the last time was that you did that on this forum.
You have a lot of knowledge & could be so helpful on this board, but all you do is snipe at newbies & act like internet bully. You've changed 180 degrees since I first met you on this board Jesse and not for the better I'm sorry to say.Some of us aspire to greater heights. Obviously, you're not one of them and that's fine, but how dare you pass judgement on those that do and/or have. As such, your comments in this thread make you seem rather foolish. I would suggest you not comment any further and remove all doubt.Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2 -
You have it backwards. I have come a long way since my first system Jesse.
No, I got it right.The difference between you & I is that I always try to remember where I started & not let my ego make me arrogant, condescending & generally unhelpful when it comes to helping out others.
That's a laugh.You are the one who is ALWAYS classifiying gear as entry, mid, hi-fi. If going up the audio chain makes me as obnoxious as you, then yeah, I'll skip it.
Gee, could that be because there is a difference and unlike you, I know what they are.I don't care where a person is on the audio chain, I simply try to help them get the best gear they can within their budget & urge them to spend a little more to really bring out the best in their gear.
Really? When's the last time you recommended something other than 200wpc, Rotel, Emo, Parasound, NAD, etc.?I can't remember when the last time was that you did that on this forum.
You haven't been paying attention.You have a lot of knowledge & could be so helpful on this board, but all you do is snipe at newbies & act like internet bully. You've changed 180 degrees since I first met you on this board Jesse and not for the better I'm sorry to say.
Feel free to put me on your ignore list, you just joined mine.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Cathy and Jesse, as CP veterans and as people you're both better than this. I, as well as many other members respect you both. Just agree to disagree, please.
Well let's see Mike, so far I've been called the following; snob, arrogant, condescending & generally unhelpful, obnoxious, dumb & unimportant, bully and delusional.
On the other hand, I've kept things pretty clean only suggesting that her comments in this thread are making her seem foolish, not that she is a fool.
I don't see anything that I need to apologize for, nor do I see a reason to agree to disagree with someone who has repeatedly attacked me.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Really...all this over a friendly give and take for a guy who just wants to hear what the senior members feel about his buying an Emotiva. Is it really worth this fallout for that?
We've got to learn to relax a little. I'm with Keiko here. Both of you are, from what I've seen in my short time here; Valued members of this community who contribute greatly to its knowledge base. And give those of us who are in the middle or at the beginning of this journey excellent counsel.
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xcapri is responsible for this tag. He's what's known as a coward.Political Correctness'.........defined
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Really...all this over a friendly give and take for a guy who just wants to hear what the senior members feel about his buying an Emotiva. Is it really worth this fallout for that?
It would seem that Ms. Frizz has been harboring some pent up emotions. :rolleyes:Political Correctness'.........defined
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JL88, I'm going to go out on limb here. First, disregard the petty arguing amongst members.
You would not have much to loose by trying an amp. Are there better amps out there? Of course there are. But if you are interested in this hobby, you have to take that second step. You may find that it was a waste of money and send it back. On the other hand, you may find the end of the rainbow with it!
In time, you my find you want something else. Either an amp with different "house" sound or a feature that appeals to you. Personally, I dislike the "Low-Mid-Hi-Fi" label applied to pieces of gear. Different sounds and features end up costing more and more money.
I listened to a 1.2 MILLION dollar system this weekend. I'll never be able to afford a system like that and it does not concern me in the least.
Don't be afraid to at least try. The Emo may be a lot of money for you or it may not. But don't waver. Try it and see for yourself.
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Really...all this over a friendly give and take for a guy who just wants to hear what the senior members feel about his buying an Emotiva. Is it really worth this fallout for that?
We've got to learn to relax a little. I'm with Keiko here. Both of you are, from what I've seen in my short time here; Valued members of this community who contribute greatly to its knowledge base. And give those of us who are in the middle or at the beginning of this journey excellent counsel.
cnh
+1 on this, Well said cnh, this also goes to you and mike as well, both of you are very helpful as well, as quite a few other guys here. I would not be where i am at if not for this place period. Learning what i have, and being able to enjoy my music and movies at this stage is unreal.my family and friends freak out when they come over. it is amazing how many people have no idea that you can have such great sound. and i am not sure if what i have would be considered lo/fi or mid/fi, not that i care. I know it's not hi/fi but it kicks **** none the less.
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I listened to a 1.2 MILLION dollar system this weekend.
Just out of curiosity, what do you get for 1.2 million dollars these days? I hope it was more than a CDP, pre/power amp, 2 speakers, along with wire and ICs.
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I listened to a 1.2 MILLION dollar system this weekend. I'll never be able to afford a system like that and it does not concern me in the least.
Gordon
It wasn't the cd player in a Bugatti Veyron was it?
You ought perhaps to start a new thread: "What a million bucks buys."
In particular, how does it compare with a comparable system from Em---oh, wait, never mind. -
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Bluefox is responsible for this one. Another coward.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I was just wondering if I needed to get another bag of popcorn for tomorrow?
What was the original post about anyway?....oh yeah, Emotiva. Well all I gotta say it that it's all IN THE EARS man. At a recent audio show I listened to the same piece of music on systems ranging from a 10 thousand to over 100 thousand. The difference was not "night and day" to MY ears. Therefore, in MY case, it is irrelevant whether I use a $1,000 amplifier or a $10,000 amplifier....I most likely won't hear the difference even if there is one.
Sooooo.....how sensitive are YOUR ears? If your wallet allows you, go for the big expensive amplifier and the bragging rights that go with it. If not, Emotiva gives a pretty good bang for the buck and they look pretty good too.
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Just out of curiosity, what do you get for 1.2 million dollars these days? I hope it was more than a CDP, pre/power amp, 2 speakers, along with wire and ICs.
My 1.2 million system would be a $700K house with a $500K HT and stereo.
This man is a friend of mine and his house alone is 1.2 M. I've never in my life heard anything quite like this. This is what 1.2 M in audio/video will get you:
http://www.hometheaterdesignmag.com/traditional/207mc/
Absolutely breathtaking!
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Bluefox is responsible for this one. Another coward.
Is this really necessary?
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Bluefox is responsible for this one. Another coward.
Wow!! You are in a fantasy world. I have never added a tag to any post. I still do not really understand their purpose.
In so far as being a coward, I have no problem telling you to your face you are a fool if you deserve it. I have done it in the past, and I will do it again here.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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This man is a friend of mine and his house alone is 1.2 M. I've never in my life heard anything quite like this. This is what 1.2 M in audio/video will get you:
http://www.hometheaterdesignmag.com/traditional/207mc/
Absolutely breathtaking!
Gordon
Wow that looks like Joeparaski's house!:D
