Talk me into vinyl...

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2009
    Just go out and find a good used table. Lot of stuff out there that can be cleaned up and upgraded. Start with a solid table and arm and put your money in the cartridge. I got this one at the thrift store and after a few hundred bucks for a cartridge and cleaning supplies; she sounds fairly good.

    That's a nice looking table.:cool:
  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited February 2009
    Fongolio wrote: »
    Of all the usb turntables the Pro-ject Debut III USB seems to be the best. Check out this review:
    http://www.hometheatermag.com/convergence/508pro/
    It also has a built in phono pre-amp so it can be hooked directly to any home theater rig as well.

    Fongolio and Marty913 thanks for the links. That Pro-ject looks like what I'm looking for, but rumors flying around work today of a 50% work force reduction this week has me in not too big of a rush. I guess if I make it through this one (4th one since Nov.) I should be safe till they go belly up.
  • sdcfan18
    sdcfan18 Posts: 95
    edited February 2009
    So I'm reading my Yamaha manual and under Phono is says:

    "the PHONO jacks are compatible with a turntable with an MM or a high-current MC cartridge. To connect to a turntable with a low-current MC cartridge to the PHONO jacks, use an in0line boosting transformer or MC-head amplifier."

    In layman's terms anyone?
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2009
    Just go out and find a good used table. Lot of stuff out there that can be cleaned up and upgraded. Start with a solid table and arm and put your money in the cartridge. I got this one at the thrift store and after a few hundred bucks for a cartridge and cleaning supplies; she sounds fairly good.

    Very nice:)
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited February 2009
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Very nice:)

    Thanks, it appears some folks are mighty proud of that tonearm:
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?anlgtnrm&1238435530

    If that won't convince anyone to get into vinyl I don't know what will.:eek:
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited February 2009
    sdcfan18 wrote: »
    So I'm reading my Yamaha manual and under Phono is says:

    "the PHONO jacks are compatible with a turntable with an MM or a high-current MC cartridge. To connect to a turntable with a low-current MC cartridge to the PHONO jacks, use an in0line boosting transformer or MC-head amplifier."

    In layman's terms anyone?

    A very simple explaination:

    MM (moving magnet) carts typically run at around 5.0mV and high output MC (moving coils) carts can run as high. Low output MC carts have very very low outputs. My cart is 0.24mV cart.

    With your Yammy, you could just connect the MM or high output MC cart directly to the phono stage of your preamp and it will produce the current necessary for acceptable volume. If you use a low out MC cart you would need a step up transformer (I have one) or a head amp to "step up" the voltage to an acceptable level for your preamp to function without having to turn the volume all the way up.
  • rayslifecycle
    rayslifecycle Posts: 511
    edited February 2009
    .......recently I had a very inexpensive Yamaha TT ($50) set up by a very good shop with a high output Denon MC cart (DL160) installed........although it is a very cheap TT, the cart makes a big difference in how good it sounds, and when I do upgrade the TT, I will be able to transfer the cartridge.......so I say go for that 250-300 dollar budget and enjoy your entry into analog........it will reward your ears......

    I've had two vinyl parties where friends bring over their vinyl and everyone says it is the best sounding system they ever heard - ignorance is bliss I guess- I've heard much better then my 2channel rig - but nevertheless - it was a good rewarding time.

    Check out my showcase link in the sig to see the TT

    good luck and enjoy the ride
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited February 2009
    .......recently I had a very inexpensive Yamaha TT ($50) set up by a very good shop with a high output Denon MC cart (DL160) installed........although it is a very cheap TT, the cart makes a big difference in how good it sounds, and when I do upgrade the TT, I will be able to transfer the cartridge.......so I say go for that 250-300 dollar budget and enjoy your entry into analog........it will reward your ears......

    I've had two vinyl parties where friends bring over their vinyl and everyone says it is the best sounding system they ever heard - ignorance is bliss I guess- I've heard much better then my 2channel rig - but nevertheless - it was a good rewarding time.

    Check out my showcase link in the sig to see the TT

    good luck and enjoy the ride

    I just checked out the pics in your showcase. You have an SNES in your A/V rack! That's awesome...so do I!...lol Most people have long since gotten rid of their SNES's by now...I'm still of the opinion that it's the greatest console ever made.:cool:



    So I have a turntable now.:D Not a very good one by any means though...:o

    It's a Goldstar(which is LG now) turntable from a component system that I've had laying around for quite a while. I managed to dig it up earlier today, and got it going. My record collection is only composed of two albums currently though. Zeppelin 1, and Zeppelin 2. No arguments in that regard though...two damn good albums.

    So far...I'm not that blown away by it, but I attribute that to the complete crap quality of the turntable. I thinking it could probably use a new needle as well...this one appears to be pretty worn down.

    This table probably won't be seeing a whole lot of use though either way...I'm still looking forward to setting up a vinyl rig though. I can't wait..:D

    It still looks kinda nice seeing a turntable in my A/V rack.:cool:
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited February 2009
    That's a nice looking table.:cool:

    +1 on that,, drop dead gorgeous.:cool:
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited February 2009


    So I have a turntable now
    So far...I'm not that blown away by it I thinking it could probably use a new needle as well...this one appears to be pretty worn down.

    Proper cartridge alignment and setup on a turntable is critical. Any turntable. The smallest change in track force or azimuth angle can have a large impact on sound quality. Even really cheap tables when properly setup can sound really sweet. Most critical.....don't spin records on a worn out stylus (needle)!! Even on a brand new 100,000 dollar tt with a perfect stylus playing a record causes damage to the record. The damage is minimized by keeping records clean and having a properly aligned and weighted cartridge. The most damage is caused by an old worn out stylus. This can destroy good records. Get yourself a new stylus and do some searches online for proper cartridge alignment. Alternatively you can take the table to a pro and have them align the cartridge. If you do it yourself patience is the key. Turntables can be finicky to setup but when you get it right the rewards are tremendous. Good luck.
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  • rayslifecycle
    rayslifecycle Posts: 511
    edited February 2009
    Fongolio wrote: »
    Proper cartridge alignment and setup on a turntable is critical. Any turntable. The smallest change in track force or azimuth angle can have a large impact on sound quality. Even really cheap tables when properly setup can sound really sweet. Most critical.....don't spin records on a worn out stylus (needle)!! Even on a brand new 100,000 dollar tt with a perfect stylus playing a record causes damage to the record. The damage is minimized by keeping records clean and having a properly aligned and weighted cartridge. The most damage is caused by an old worn out stylus. This can destroy good records. Get yourself a new stylus and do some searches online for proper cartridge alignment. Alternatively you can take the table to a pro and have them align the cartridge. If you do it yourself patience is the key. Turntables can be finicky to setup but when you get it right the rewards are tremendous. Good luck.

    +1 - setting up a TT is a dying art - i recommend having someone else do it and show you what they are doing.........and the cart makes all the difference.
    The best part of owning a TT though is finding that local used vinyl store and getting lots of music for cheap........the one near me (http://www.joesrecordparadise.com/) does a really nice job cleaning their vinyl before you get it.........:D:cool::)