Will the Woes for Toyota Ever End?!

Kex
Kex Posts: 5,162
edited April 2010 in The Clubhouse
I hate to look like a Feverish Ford Fiend enjoying all the woes at Toyota, but for goodness sake, can they not get the ESC on a $52,000 Lexus right? ... I mean, it's apparently doing exactly what ESC is supposed to prevent. The model is the all new 2010 GX 460 ... which seems to be shown on their website as the GX10 4.6L, so I wonder is that new since the problem hit the wires. There's no mention of a GX10 on edmunds.com where the 2010 GX 460 is featured:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/04/13/autos/consumer_reports_lexus_gx460/index.htm?hpt=T1

Lexus website: http://www.lexus.com/models/GX/
Edmunds.com: http://www.edmunds.com/lexus/gx460/2010/review.html
Alea jacta est!
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited April 2010
    Wow ,they have some serious engineering issues to get worked out.I love my 06 Camry XLE but I hope it doesn't kill me.
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  • Polk addict
    Polk addict Posts: 558
    edited April 2010
    I'd like to know how fast the thing was being driven... You can hear the tires making a noise even before it hits a turn. It sounds kinda like the same sound you hear when you ride a bike with mountain bike tires really fast on pavement...
    Chiranth
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,383
    edited April 2010
    Toyota's woes will end when they start building Fords:D:p...
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  • joeparaski
    joeparaski Posts: 1,865
    edited April 2010
    Man, all these new electronic steering/suspension/brakes etc etc controls are gonna make on hell of a headache for the owners down the road as these cars age and things like corrosion and general wear and tear start taking their toll. Personally, I'd rather control the car myself than have a computer do it for me.

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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited April 2010
    I'm waiting for all those parallel park features to stop working.
    Good time to own a body shop.
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  • Polk addict
    Polk addict Posts: 558
    edited April 2010
    Well,

    "In the test, the SUV was going over 60 miles per hour, said a Consumer Reports spokesman."

    Well duh it's gonna slip out, it's an SUV... Also, notice that the Land Cruiser was not reported to have the same problem... Just Government Motors trying to inform everybody that Lexus and Scion are also part of Toyota Motor Corps... And what about their tractors and lifts and other products?
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2010
    Is it me or all of a sudden, no more suddenly accelerating Priuses? Therefore, Lexus SUVs tipping over??

    I have a 2005 2WD Toyota Highlander with ESC and traction control. I wonder if the ESC has even been activated? The Highlander has no problem taking on-ramps or off-ramps, ahem, well above the posted advised speed.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited April 2010
    OH MY GOD!!! You mean if i make a sharp turn in my huge tank of a top heavy SUV it might tip over?!?!?!? It's NOT a sports car?!




    I'm beginning to hate EVERYONE.


    EDIT:

    Time out. SERIOUSLY?
    "When pushed to its limits on our track’s handling course, the rear of the GX we bought slid out until the vehicle was almost sideways before the electronic stability control system was able to regain control."

    Man, what did people ever do BEFORE electronic nannies? We must have been having near brushes with death every time we went to go get groceries.

    I want to see Consumer Reports test something without traction control of any kind. I require video of them getting out of the car with ****-stained pants.
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  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited April 2010
    Did they issue the same warning about the Ford Explorer when they were flipping over?
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2010
    venomclan wrote: »
    Did they issue the same warning about the Ford Explorer when they were flipping over?

    No, that was Firestone's fault. Remember?
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited April 2010
    This is bugging me. Every other SUV review that Consumer Retarded has done, they've been able to show the SUV lifting a wheel.

    This sucker stayed flat, and just slid a little. That's WAY more desireable (at least to me) than the damn thing wallowing around like a humpback whale. They couldn't even get it to lift a wheel while they were hooning around at 60+mph playing JDM D1 DORIFTU STYLE Y0!

    After watching more videos of their tests on this thing, this is the most stable SUV i've seen in a long time.

    Did Toyota forget to mail their check this month or something?
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,807
    edited April 2010
    Heard on the radio this morning, Toyota stopped sales on the GX460 citing safety concerns.
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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited April 2010
    Their woes will end when the media and whoever is behind all of this stop making such a huge deal out of nothing.

    Blame the unions, and various other powerful people close to them for all of this.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited April 2010
    I would still buy a Toyota before a GM/Ford/Chrysler product...
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited April 2010
    I would still buy a GM/Ford/Chrysler before a Toyota product...
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2010
    I would still say "shut the hell up" to you two.
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited April 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    OH MY GOD!!! You mean if i make a sharp turn in my huge tank of a top heavy SUV it might tip over?!?!?!? It's NOT a sports car?!




    I'm beginning to hate EVERYONE.


    EDIT:

    Time out. SERIOUSLY?



    Man, what did people ever do BEFORE electronic nannies? We must have been having near brushes with death every time we went to go get groceries.

    I want to see Consumer Reports test something without traction control of any kind. I require video of them getting out of the car with ****-stained pants.

    I agree completely; what a bunch effing pansies.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited April 2010
    Lorthos wrote: »
    I would still buy a GM/Ford/Chrysler before a Toyota product...

    Well given their track record for reliability you will need one of each to my Toyota;):D
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited April 2010
    jinjuku wrote: »
    Well given their track record for reliability you will need one of each to my Toyota;):D

    And you know my track record with GM and Chrysler, how?
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    I would still say "shut the hell up" to you two.

    And will you quit stalking me please:)
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited April 2010
    wait, you mean cruise control doesn't steer for you too? What's the damn point! I just want to get in, input my destination on my Garmin and sleep... Jesus, where's the harm in that?
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited April 2010
    Lorthos wrote: »
    And you know my track record with GM and Chrysler, how?

    I never said anything about your track record. I am speaking more to the historical fleet averages.

    The figures don't lie that the Japanese makes on almost all counts are measurably superior. The most critical measurement have been customer retention and overall product satisfaction.

    Toyota screwed up. BUT they also get the benefit of the doubt currently. They are also getting their lumps.
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  • jojomgee
    jojomgee Posts: 198
    edited April 2010
    glad my toyota is 02
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  • dudeinaroom
    dudeinaroom Posts: 3,609
    edited April 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    ....Man, what did people ever do BEFORE electronic nannies?

    Like I do with My 95 Astro, let off the gas, crank the wheel and mash the gas again. Star over from the other side.:D
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited April 2010
    dudeinaroom wrote: »
    Like I do with My 95 Astro, let off the gas, crank the wheel and mash the gas again. Star over from the other side.:D

    Seriously. I remember they used to teach in Driver's Ed how to recover from a slide.

    Now...

    They teach you that the car should never slide, and that if a slide happens, the car did something wrong, and you should sue Toyota.

    "Don't worry Poopsie, the car sliding and killing 5 pedestrians wasn't your fault. The car should have never slid in the torrential downpour when you tried to make that 90 degree turn at 70mph."
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,807
    edited April 2010
    Toyota announced over the weekend that they did find a problem with the GX460 but they do not have a solution yet.
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited April 2010
    Many driver's ed programs don't discuss the slide issue because recover technique is dependent on whether the vehicle is front or rear-wheel drive. Instead they recommend cautious , non jerky reactions involving keeping traction, and gradually slowing down.
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  • PhantomOG
    PhantomOG Posts: 2,409
    edited April 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    You do that. :p I'll keep my 03 Tacoma 5 speed stick. :)

    What's with all the Tacoma's in Hawaii? When I was in Maui a couple years ago, it seemed like all the locals had Tacoma's. Do Hawaii residents get them half off or something??? :p
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  • virtualdean
    virtualdean Posts: 286
    edited April 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    You do that. :p I'll keep my 03 Tacoma 5 speed stick. :)

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    Do they make those for men too? ;)
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited April 2010
    PhantomOG wrote: »
    What's with all the Tacoma's in Hawaii? When I was in Maui a couple years ago, it seemed like all the locals had Tacoma's. Do Hawaii residents get them half off or something??? :p

    Hard to get parts in the islands. You buy a Tacoma, you will never need parts again, because they're made of invincible.
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