What do i have to do to get loud bass??

be83663

Definitely get a Velodyne DEQ-15R for around $900. You won't regret it. It delivers a great bass!

PSOVLSK

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?homesubw&1274580595&/SVS-pb12plus2-subwoofer

If you want more bass than this delivers I can't help you.

ken brydson

PSOVLSK wrote: »

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?homesubw&1274580595&/SVS-pb12plus2-subwoofer

If you want more bass than this delivers I can't help you.

That's a good deal right there...

curved

How big is your room?

You should check out the Epik Empire.

IRLRaceFan

Neale13 wrote: »

FYI .I dont listen to rap.I listen to rock , punk rock.Social Distortion,etc. I just like to feel that kick drum and bass guitar just as if I was at the show.

My gf & I have similar taste in music as you. I just got a microPRO2000 sub from Polk Direct and am VERY happy with it.
I do live in a condo, so I really can't run "wide open throttle"...
I gotta think that a sub like this with what you already have will be loud AND sound awesome

BTW, I've never heard CV's before. I know they are loud, but how do they sound??

halo71

IRLRaceFan wrote: »

BTW, I've never heard CV's before. I know they are loud, but how do they sound??

Almost any speaker can be loud. Many associate 'loud' with a speakers quality. And for some strange reason many folks think CV's are a high quality speaker. They make great party speakers! I personally have never heard any CV's that deliver an audiophile quality sound. Maybe it's just me.

I once had a CV sub that I was very pleased with though...

Jer.War

What are you speakers sitting on?? If on carpet they should be spiked (makes a huge difference if the sub isnt moving the entire speaker instead of pushing air). Also, I assume the receiver is set to large for the fronts. If your receiver has a graphic EQ I would try that before tone controls (should allow you to boost up just the lower frequencies you are after. Bi amping will also make a difference if your amp is the weak link. My buddy had a similar RTI setup (predecessor to the A series) and they hammered of a HK recever so you should be able to make a few changes to squeeze some more bass out of the speakers.
Cheers

cstmar01

halo71 wrote: »

Almost any speaker can be loud. Many associate 'loud' with a speakers quality. And for some strange reason many folks think CV's are a high quality speaker. They make great party speakers! I personally have never heard any CV's that deliver an audiophile quality sound. Maybe it's just me.

I once had a CV sub that I was very pleased with though...

CV's will go loud however I don't feel they are a very detailed speaker. If someone wants just bass and lots of it such as you would get from a club or house party these will work. however if the OP wants detailed musical bass that will hit him I would say get a nice sub such as the SVS as it will extend beyond what you need.


The MPK2K I feel in regards to what the OP wants would be a little lacking. I had the 1K and while I liked it for music (not anything super crazy loud) it was nice and blended well however it didn't have the authority or force to really hit me you know?

halo71

cstmar01 wrote: »

CV's will go loud however I don't feel they are a very detailed speaker. If someone wants just bass and lots of it such as you would get from a club or house party these will work. however if the OP wants detailed musical bass that will hit him I would say get a nice sub such as the SVS as it will extend beyond what you need.

Oh I fully agree. The older I get I find myself turning down my sub or not running it at all on 2 channel. When I was younger and had a CV sub I would rattle the windows and thought, damn that sounds so good. Then when I got an M&K sub I found out what it was all about. I have an Energy sub now that I gave about $900 for several years ago and love it.

Sherardp

You need a good sub, Epik or SVS comes to mind and should play nice with the A9s.

Neale13

My family room is 20x25 (carpet)wich flows into a 8x20 kitchen table area then a 20x20 kitchen . Im just having a hard time seeing a sub in one corner handle this large area. Compared to a pair of mains with 2 15in subs. I dont know these A9's do sound detailed though I hate to see them go but i need bass.Im sorry guys these A9's have very little.

cfrizz

Then get 2 smaller subs. I found that when I got my 2nd sub, it really balanced the bass out & spread it throughout the room.

NJPOLKER

I think you need to bang your head against the wall more.

Huck344

You can get a lot of bass for $1000. Three years ago, I was in a similar predicament that you are now. I had just bought my RTi8's and was running a $150 Sony sub. I was less than thrilled with the bass. After lots of research on subs, I decided to shell out around $1100 - $1200 for the SVS PC Ultra. I cannot tell you what a difference it made. My family room was slightly bigger than yours (20 x 30 x 8) with carpet. It not only shook the room, it shook the house and the gain was turned up less than half. I spent a ton of time exchanging emails and speaking with the guys at SVS before I made my purchase. They are great and will make recommendations, even if it is not the most expensive one. They only want you to be satisfied.

Bottom line, is that you will be amazed at how much house shaking you can get from a single, good quality sub. I actually turn it down when I'm just doing regular listening. I crank it up a bit for parties (gotta give the people what they want!).

Neale13

Thanks Huck344 your reply has helped me the most. I better try SVS before I dump the RTIA9's.

Huck344

Neale13 wrote: »

Thanks Huck344 your reply has helped me the most. I better try SVS before I dump the RTIA9's.

Send them an email at sales@svsound.com. Tell them your predicament, budget, etc. They'll respond within 24 hours with questions about your room, windows, door, etc. I dealt primarily with Ed. He provided me with a list of three different recommendations for loud and recommendations for VERY LOUD/ROOM SHAKING. I chose VERY LOUD/ROOM SHAKING.

I cannot even explain how great they are to deal with. I was very much on the fence because they are internet only so I couldn't demo them in a store. I got an email from Ron (one of their co-founders) who invited me to his house to check out how it sounds. I couldn't believe it. I didn't take him up on it. The offer was good enough to convince me.

I will warn you of one thing. The sub is absolutely huge. It's about 4 feet high weighs about 80 pounds.

Neale13

Huck344 wrote: »

Send them an email at sales@svsound.com. Tell them your predicament, budget, etc. They'll respond within 24 hours with questions about your room, windows, door, etc. I dealt primarily with Ed. He provided me with a list of three different recommendations for loud and recommendations for VERY LOUD/ROOM SHAKING. I chose VERY LOUD/ROOM SHAKING.

I cannot even explain how great they are to deal with. I was very much on the fence because they are internet only so I couldn't demo them in a store. I got an email from Ron (one of their co-founders) who invited me to his house to check out how it sounds. I couldn't believe it. I didn't take him up on it. The offer was good enough to convince me.

I will warn you of one thing. The sub is absolutely huge. It's about 4 feet high weighs about 80 pounds.

I want very loud as well .But want to spend the least amout possible.thanks

Polkie2009

Sometimes it's worth it to spend some extra money to put up some walls or put a in door to seal off that extra 20'x20'x8 room (or bigger,lol) that's next to the listening room.

be83663

SVS PC Ultra is a nice subwoofer, but is around $1600 including shipping and handling.
Velodyne DEQ-15R, 15-Inch Powered Subwoofer, is around $850 from Amazon.com, for example, and has a 15 inch subwoofer that will move a lot of air in your big room.
Both subwoofers mentioned above have an RMS of 750 watts and weigh around the same at 80 lbs.
Personally I like the look of DEQ-15R a little more, but SVS PC Ultra's tower-figure looks slick too.
If money allowed and need to, I would rather buy two DEQ-15R for $1700 than one SVS PC Ultra for $1600, placing each DEQ-15R next to your A9s. It will be a game-changer for sure!
One subwoofer might be enough, two might sound better, you will have to decide.
I just love Velodyne. To me Velodyne=Subwoofers.
Here is the link: http://www.velodyne.com/products/brochures/DEQ-R%20datasheet_web.pdf
Good luck finding and deciding soon-to-be-the-best-upgrade-for-the-bucks of your stereo system!

mhmacw

NJPOLKER wrote: »

I think you need to bang your head against the wall more like I have over the years.... see I've done it so many times all I can do is make stupid smart assed posts that have absolutely zero relavence. Dont you wan't to be like me?.

all nit witt remarks aside....try this configuration. it can be built in any size and is just as effective proportionally.http://www.decware.com/newsite/hwk15.htm

mystik610

If musicality is your preference, then HSU is a better choice than SVS. HSU subs are known for superior sound quality and 'cleanliness'.

Even though your A9's can produce low frequency material, it will take a lot of power, and your placement options are very limited. Low-frequency material (hard hitting bass) is produced best from a corner-placed sub. Most towers sit in the front, middle part of the room, and in most cases, this is a low-frequency null area!