What do i have to do to get loud bass??

Neale13
Neale13 Posts: 88
edited April 2010 in Speakers
rotel rc 1070- pre amp,rb-1092 amp (500wpc)polk rtia9's. What do I have 2 do now to get solid loud hard hitting bass ?I only listen to music. Please tell me ,im dieing here .I bought the rb-1092 thinking it would help with more bass ,nope.I would get a sub but i dont want to waste more money:confused:
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited March 2010
    Since you didn't mention sound quality and bass is what you're concerned about then I'd recommend some concert speakers or something with big woofers. 7" woofers can only move so much air.
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  • Huck344
    Huck344 Posts: 453
    edited March 2010
    A subwoofer comes to mind.
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  • Neale13
    Neale13 Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    Neale13 wrote: »
    rotel rc 1070- pre amp,rb-1092 amp (500wpc)polk rtia9's. What do I have 2 do now to get solid loud hard hitting bass ?I only listen to music. Please tell me ,im dieing here .I bought the rb-1092 thinking it would help with more bass ,nope.I would get a sub but i dont want to waste more money:confused:

    would a sub be able to deliver big full room filling bass ?
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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited March 2010
    depending on which one you get, they can rattle fillings out of your teeth.

    here this will do the trick

    http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb13ultra.cfm
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited March 2010
    zarrdoss wrote: »
    depending on which one you get, they can rattle fillings out of your teeth.

    Just remember you have to pay to play.:)
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  • Neale13
    Neale13 Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    zarrdoss wrote: »
    depending on which one you get, they can rattle fillings out of your teeth.

    here this will do the trick

    http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb13ultra.cfm


    yeah there is another 1,700 dollar chance.well there may be a mint pair of cherry rtia9's for sale.:eek:
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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited March 2010
    It can also be your rooms acoustics robbing bass response. this is a great sub for the money if they will ever get them in stock that is.

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-770
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  • Huck344
    Huck344 Posts: 453
    edited March 2010
    Neale13 wrote: »
    would a sub be able to deliver big full room filling bass ?

    Depends on the sub and the room, but generally yes. As mentioned above, SVS is good for "big room filling" bass. My PC-Ultra shakes a 20 x 30 room. Of course, unless you are listening to rap/R&B, most music is not meant to have huge bass.
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  • curved
    curved Posts: 664
    edited March 2010
    Get a sub....or maybe 2
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited March 2010
    A.quit listening to crap rap music
    B.get a sub
    C.ditch the polks and give cerwin-vega a call

    Sarcasm aside a decent sub will help tremendously
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited March 2010
    Have you tried inching your speakers closer to the wall? I had my 1.2TLs about 12" from the back wall and was very disappointed in the bass. I kept inching them back towards the wall and when I hit 8" BAM big, tight, growling bass. Could be your speaker cables or ICs too.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2010
    If you want disco bass in your room it will cost.

    Your A9s with a nice sub will give you very nice bass.

    Gadabout has some RTi10s and a Polk sub (forget which one) that sound beautilful.

    His room is well appointed and works well.

    If you have a big open room that is sparse then you have some work to do.

    Have you properly setup your sub (see H9s question on sub placement above)?

    Taken any in room measurements ?

    If you have a crappy room (acoustically) then you will need 4 subs when 1 could do the trick if set up correctly.

    IMO subs are the hardest to get right.
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited March 2010
    Even when I was using my RTiA7's for two channel, with the Carver pre and amp I got very pleasing hard hitting bass. Was it disco slamming bass? No. Was it reasonably controlled and very articulate bass? Yes. Was it anything like my two 12" type R's in the IROC-Z? No. But SQ is way way better. You may simply be asking too much from those A9's. They are excellent speakers for music and HT but if room shaking brain rattling bass is what you are after then the above suggestions apply. Good luck and I hope you find that which you seek.
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  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited March 2010
    Ok.. what kind of music are you listening to normally.., I don't know maybe its me, but i have a hard time believing for music that the A9s don't have enough bass when you are pumping 500 wpc .
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited March 2010
    You need a subwoofer like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmRTGRbrATs
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited March 2010
    BeefJerky wrote: »
    You need a subwoofer like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmRTGRbrATs

    That had me smiling from ear to ear!:)
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited March 2010
    BeefJerky wrote: »
    You need a subwoofer like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmRTGRbrATs


    That's awesome!!!!

    Someone needs to make a subwoofer that's like 4 feet wide, so I can lay in it like that!!
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited March 2010
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    That's awesome!!!!

    Someone needs to make a subwoofer that's like 4 feet wide, so I can lay in it like that!!

    Now *that* would be awesome. Maybe something like the giant speaker in "Back to the Future," except one that doesn't explode upon usage.
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  • Agent
    Agent Posts: 65
    edited March 2010
    Dude, get an SVS sub or maybe an HSU. If you like bass that can rattle your teeth then that is going to cost you. Don't skimp on the subwoofer...seriously. Home theater bass is not like car bass, they are completely different. SVS is a very respectable company and they have AMAZING costumer support. Polk does as well but SVS is in a league of their own when it comes to subwoofers.
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  • jimmydep
    jimmydep Posts: 1,305
    edited March 2010
    If you want that "Club" sound, fill a large room with just loud music (quantity over quality) then these are what you're looking for. I had a pair of Cerwin Vegas we used in a studio, and without a doubt they will give you that sledgehammer in your chest feel.

    http://cerwinvega.com/home-audio/floorstanding-speakers/cls-215.html

    You'll have no problems selling your A9's


    Jimmy
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited March 2010
    jimmydep wrote: »
    If you want that "Club" sound, fill a large room with just loud music (quantity over quality) then these are what you're looking for. I had a pair of Cerwin Vegas we used in a studio, and without a doubt they will give you that sledgehammer in your chest feel.

    http://cerwinvega.com/home-audio/floorstanding-speakers/cls-215.html

    You'll have no problems selling your A9's


    Jimmy

    Maybe as a Pro Amp in the mix too.
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  • Mikel1871
    Mikel1871 Posts: 1
    edited March 2010
    The more the merrier,I have a toatle of 11 - 12" woofs in my house.Needless to say pictures fall off my walls..Like they say you have to pay to play.:eek:
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited March 2010
    rcrook317 wrote: »
    A.quit listening to crap rap music
    B.get a sub
    C.ditch the polks and give cerwin-vega a call

    Sarcasm aside a decent sub will help tremendously

    B and C. Honestly if your not really caring about the detail and quaility of the sound get some CV's and a sub and go to town. You could even get some DJ speakers with some 18" woofers and use them too. Peavey, Mackies ect. Those will nicely give you "room filling bass" and probably get you arrested but you know its all good.
    and for a sub you could do what some of my friends did. Take car subs 12's and 15's make your own sub out of them. about 4 12's and 2 15's in a 1000 sq ft apartment will give you nice loud room shaking bass, as well as have the cops come.

    and the Peavey's you can get dual 15's in a cab for around 300-400 bucks a pop and the subs around 600 a piece. then look at getting a crown amp for the powering. This is what my friend had and he's big into DJ'ing and used this rig for serval gigs and never exhausted anything. Granted the horns and the sub would make you deaf in about 5 seconds, but trust me, you felt the bass in your chest.
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  • Neale13
    Neale13 Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    FYI .I dont listen to rap.I listen to rock , punk rock.Social Distortion,etc. I just like to feel that kick drum and bass guitar just as if I was at the show.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited March 2010
    Get a nice big sub.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,142
    edited March 2010
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Get a nice big sub.

    bingo:cool:
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  • rcrook317
    rcrook317 Posts: 280
    edited March 2010
    Neale13 wrote: »
    FYI .I dont listen to rap.I listen to rock , punk rock.Social Distortion,etc. I just like to feel that kick drum and bass guitar just as if I was at the show.
    was only kidding.most of my buddies love the bass its "thumpin,bangin" whatever.they almost all listen to rap and when u mentioned roomfilling bass,rap came to mind.

    do some research get a nice sub.
    the a9s are awesome speakers,find it hard to believe one couldnt be happy w/ the purchase....thats just me
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    center=csi3(cherry)
    sub=psw125(cherry)
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    harmon kardon 354
    sony cdp
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    audioquest diamondback 1m
    "Maesto" straightwire cables
    pangea ac-9
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    monitor=lg 55inch lcd(1080p)
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited March 2010
    Do the cheap thing first. If your pre amp has tone controls turn up the bass all the way and have a blast.
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  • Neale13
    Neale13 Posts: 88
    edited March 2010
    Ok keep the RTIa9's and get a SVS sub . But i can only spend like 1,000.00 dollars or less. Or get a pair of big Cerwin Vegas and switch btwn the 2 differnt speaker brandspeakers for differnt listening ?
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    edited March 2010
    Whatever you decide to do....I would not get any Cerwin Vega's!
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