Outlaw Audio cancells their newest pre amp model 997
danger boy
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got the word yesterday.....
"To get right to the point, due to the current state of the Sherwood Newcastle R-972 and the inability of Inkel to properly implement our required changes, it is with great regret that we must inform you that we have cancelled the Model 997.
We know that this will be extremely disappointing to those who have been waiting patiently for this product. That is equally true for us at Outlaw. With interest in this product from thousands of customers, it is obvious that this will result in lost sales. However, we feel strongly that under the circumstances we have made the right decision.
The Reasons Why
To better understand the reasons behind this decision, we would like to share some of the details that brought us to this conclusion.
Half way through the development of this platform, Inkel switched the video processor to the Reon solution. While this move improved the performance of the unit, it caused other side effects and delayed completion of the platform by almost nine months.
Proper implementation of the Trinnov Optimizer Room Correction System also took longer than expected, pushing all aspects of the schedule back even farther.
We have been testing pre-production beta samples for at least five months, but the inability of Inkel to get both the underlying platform to operate to our specifications and to have the Outlaw-specific changes made properly caused delays well beyond our initial production start date.
HDMI 1.4 and 3D have come to market with a speed that is considerably quicker than anyone in the industry had anticipated. The demand for compatibility with these key technologies and the fact that we could not offer them in our new processor put the final nail in the Model 997's coffin. Knowing that many of you have waited for the Model 997 as your first HDMI processor, we could not introduce it with anything less than the absolute state-of-the-art in digital connectivity. We simply would not put you in a position of investing in a processor only to find out later that you needed to replace it with a new model when you moved to 3-D.
The time we have invested on the Model 997 has diverted our attention from the other products we have in development. With many of those products reaching a critical stage, we had to make a decision on where to invest our resources. The payback on spending any further time or effort on the Model 997, which in our opinion was still not ready for production, was no longer there.
When considering these issues, compounded with several others, it became clear that the Model 997 platform design no longer met your needs or ours. We delayed this decision (some might say even longer than we should have) in the hope that things would work out favorably, but that was not to be. Again, despite the realization that this would be a disappointment to the many Outlaws who have been waiting patiently, we felt that even if the Model 997 was fully debugged and ready for production, it is now past the point where we could sell this processor as it stands. It would just be too far behind the curve the moment it was released."
"To get right to the point, due to the current state of the Sherwood Newcastle R-972 and the inability of Inkel to properly implement our required changes, it is with great regret that we must inform you that we have cancelled the Model 997.
We know that this will be extremely disappointing to those who have been waiting patiently for this product. That is equally true for us at Outlaw. With interest in this product from thousands of customers, it is obvious that this will result in lost sales. However, we feel strongly that under the circumstances we have made the right decision.
The Reasons Why
To better understand the reasons behind this decision, we would like to share some of the details that brought us to this conclusion.
Half way through the development of this platform, Inkel switched the video processor to the Reon solution. While this move improved the performance of the unit, it caused other side effects and delayed completion of the platform by almost nine months.
Proper implementation of the Trinnov Optimizer Room Correction System also took longer than expected, pushing all aspects of the schedule back even farther.
We have been testing pre-production beta samples for at least five months, but the inability of Inkel to get both the underlying platform to operate to our specifications and to have the Outlaw-specific changes made properly caused delays well beyond our initial production start date.
HDMI 1.4 and 3D have come to market with a speed that is considerably quicker than anyone in the industry had anticipated. The demand for compatibility with these key technologies and the fact that we could not offer them in our new processor put the final nail in the Model 997's coffin. Knowing that many of you have waited for the Model 997 as your first HDMI processor, we could not introduce it with anything less than the absolute state-of-the-art in digital connectivity. We simply would not put you in a position of investing in a processor only to find out later that you needed to replace it with a new model when you moved to 3-D.
The time we have invested on the Model 997 has diverted our attention from the other products we have in development. With many of those products reaching a critical stage, we had to make a decision on where to invest our resources. The payback on spending any further time or effort on the Model 997, which in our opinion was still not ready for production, was no longer there.
When considering these issues, compounded with several others, it became clear that the Model 997 platform design no longer met your needs or ours. We delayed this decision (some might say even longer than we should have) in the hope that things would work out favorably, but that was not to be. Again, despite the realization that this would be a disappointment to the many Outlaws who have been waiting patiently, we felt that even if the Model 997 was fully debugged and ready for production, it is now past the point where we could sell this processor as it stands. It would just be too far behind the curve the moment it was released."
PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
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sad. but by the time a processor is developed and the bugs worked out.. it's already obsolete. damn.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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18 months of 'coming soon', and they end up having to cancel it. I'm glad I didn't wait around for this thing:cool:I refuse to argue with idiots, because people can't tell the DIFFERENCE!
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At least they made the right move. Instead of releasing an obsolete machine, they'll release the new one (hopefully soon) with all the bells and whistles of the "next generation".
If it was a big corporation (someone like H/K or Sony or whatever huge), I am sure they would have just dumped the near-obsolete model onto general public and called it the latest and the greatest.Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
B&W CDM1-SE fronts
B&W CDM-CNT center
B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
Belkin PF60 Power Center
Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room -
Hell B&K has done the samething with their pre/pro and recievers and I just got the news that the first part of spring they will have a new one with the new formats :O.. How stupid is that at least Outlaw admided defeat (all be it real late in the game) and will hopefully come out with one first with all the new stuff working.
I think it is all stupid that some come out and others have a working unit selling it kinda makes me wonder who has the better Engineers working for them.
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Outlaw Audio was relying on them piggy backing off of the Sherwood Newcastle processor.. so does that mean the Sherwood will still come out? or did that one get scrapped too?
does that then mean that what you and I have in our homes are really obsolete as soon as 3D comes to market? then what's after that, and how soon will that come to market?PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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When they got into trouble with a release date, they started selling the Onkyo Pro PR-SC886 as a subtistute for the Model 997.
BillMy 2012 HT Room - http://www.avsforum.com/t/1416077/bsoko2-new-ht-june-2012 -
I have absolutely zero interest in 3d in a theater, let alone in my house......That's not a technology I'm going to be investing in in any way/shape/form......comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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agreed Brett. not something I want to scrap what I have now to just go ahead an buy a new TV, processor.. etc just to have 3D.
I think 3D will be a fad that will die like HD DVD did. because you know there will of course be some company out there to complete with 3D. and you begin the format wars all over again. something that happens every few years.PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
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I have absolutely zero interest in 3d in a theater, let alone in my house......That's not a technology I'm going to be investing in in any way/shape/form......
That's what people said about high definition (720p/1080i, then 1080p), Blu-Ray/HD-DVD, CDs, etc etc etc.Panasonic PT-AE4000U projector for movies
Carada 106" Precision Series (Classic Cinema White)
Denon AVR-X3600H pre/pro
Outlaw 770 7-channel amplifier
B&W CDM1-SE fronts
B&W CDM-CNT center
B&W CDM1 rears on MoPADs
JBL SP8CII in-ceiling height speakers
Samsung DTB-H260F OTA HDTV tuner
DUAL NHT SubTwo subwoofers
Oppo BDP-93 Blu-Ray player
Belkin PF60 Power Center
Harmony 1100 RF remote with RF extender
Sony XBR-X950G 55" 4K HDR Smart TV + PS3 in the living room -
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dave shepard wrote: »Hell B&K has done the samething with their pre/pro and recievers and I just got the news that the first part of spring they will have a new one with the new formats :O.. How stupid is that at least Outlaw admided defeat (all be it real late in the game) and will hopefully come out with one first with all the new stuff working.
I think it is all stupid that some come out and others have a working unit selling it kinda makes me wonder who has the better Engineers working for them.
Dave
Outside of the Japanese preamp and receiver makers this holds true for everyone. Everyone in the higher end market trips over there own 2 feet when trying to make a new product. Makes you wonder how everyone else has no problems , I get sick and tired of high end.Dan
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