The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

steveinaz

I was hoping to keep this more of a general warning, not a post to out or embarass someone.

To the individual concerned, if you're reading this--the debt is forgiven. We are square as far as I am concerned. I'll take confidence in knowing that if you could have made this right, you would have. Let's call it a karma...

Let's close this thread.

Conradicles

Whomever it is he should be banned from the For Sale section so others who are not aware of him will not make a mistake.

hearingimpared

shack wrote: »

As do I. I know he was really beat down with jobs and life in general. I guess he just decided to take a hike and leave everyone hanging. That is a shame. I know Steve would have made the gesture he described and that would have been a great thing. I wish the other party would have at least made contact. I know when he first ran into financial problems, several folks here on the forum offered to loan and/or give him some gear. I really liked the guy and I am dissappointed in him. I doubt it was ever his intention to stiff Steve, but it appears he has.

In the business I'm in I've seen a lot of personal financial devastation in the last couple of years and I understand that sometimes it simply overwhelms people to the point they give up, drop out and just go into a shell. They may be depressed, embarrased, etc. and they simply can't cope with anything.

I am in no way condoning what has happened. The recipient should have at least contacted Steve. I hope, that someday he gets turned around and will do the right thing and do what he can to take care of Steve in whatever manner he can.

For now...props to Steve...a good man.

Been there done that but always tried to maintain some kind of contact to at least explain the situation and give an approximation of when things would get better. I've had this happen to me about six months ago on here where I couldn't even get out of bed because of clinical depression and panic attacks and no money after necessary bills were paid, but I still kept in touch with the seller at least once a month to keep him apprised. Thanks goodness the seller here wasn't strapped for money and very understanding. Kudos Larry!!!

I would be really shocked if our friend didn't contact Steve to make good. In the meantime kudos Steve. It is a bummer however but your attitude and actions display your great character and forgiving nature.

hearingimpared

jflail2 wrote: »

I had a "friend" call me about 2 months ago, as he had locked his keys in his car and didn't have a dime on him for a locksmith. So I called a local locksmith (from work mind you), put the charge on my check card, and sent them on out to his car to unlock it for him. $60 later he is back on the road.

A week goes by and he tells me "I'll have your money soon." I tell him "Just bring the receipt by so I have it for my records and you can pay me back whenever." Haven't seen or heard from him since. I'll call, text, no response at all.

I guess I paid $60 to figure out this dude is not cool at all....and definitely not a friend. Apparently it could have been more expensive...

I'm still struggling to get out from under my own financial burden, so I could have really used the $60, but like Steve said, it's more the principal than anything else.

That's just downright wrong! He may fall into one of the categories I posted above. UGH!:(

jflail2

Definitely. I completely understand being underwater financially. I've had to deal with an ex moving out twice in the last year and a half, and both times left me bad underwater. I had to make poor Keiko wait more than a month for me to get my finances straight and follow up on a karma I had promised him. I don't care if he ever pays me back, I'd just like him to not dodge me like I'm a credit card company calling for an overdue payment...

madmax

I once loaned a co-worker a few hundred dollars, didn't even ask him what he wanted it for. It was a Friday. Monday I return to work and notice he wasn't there. Didn't see him all week and finally asked someone about him. "Oh, he moved back to the Philipines."

About two months later he returned to the US on vacation and he stopped by to return the money. That was a feel good moment for sure.

hearingimpared

madmax wrote: »

I once loaned a co-worker a few hundred dollars, didn't even ask him what he wanted it for. It was a Friday. Monday I return to work and notice he wasn't there. Didn't see him all week and finally asked someone about him. "Oh, he moved back to the Philipines."

About two months later he returned to the US on vacation and he stopped by to return the money. That was a feel good moment for sure.

Great story!

mhmacw

im sorry for your loss steve. not the loss of dough...in the end it doesnt matter anyway. its the loss of a trusted human soul that makes the biggest dent. i can relate to my trip today. it seems these days a person so cares about them selves they will risk your life to be one car ahead of you at a stop light. its a shame people have so little respect for their fellow human beings. all we can do is learn and move on. i hope this doenst affect how you lend trust to others...that would be the biggest loss of all.

dfranks

steveinaz wrote: »

....to paraphrase A Randy Travis song.

Time to tell this story. Names won't be mentioned, because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter "who."

A cautionary tale about having a little too much trust:

I'm a trust first, judge later kind of person. I like to think that generally people will do the right thing if I feel a basis of integrity exists---and furthermore, I'm willing to take a risk every now and then in an effort to boost my own faith in people. Almost my entire time in the Army, I had a ritual of leaving a $20 bill on my desk, 24/7, 365 days a year---why, you ask?---I like to know the character of those I work with. In my 15 years of serving, the $20 never disappeared. Sometimes it sat there while I was on 30, even 45 days of leave--untouched upon my return. It made me feel good about the people I worked with.

I don't "hate" people, or anything really. To me, hate makes about as much sense as a monkey slinging its **** in a cage--it serves no purpose, really. It's a wasted emotion in my opinion; to hate means you must of loved it at some time, and no one I've ever loved have I grown to hate. But I do disconnect from people, and when I do that, it's a done deal. First time, shame on you, second time shame on me kinda thing. I'm babbling.

Back in July of 2008, I sold an item here in the FM. The item was sold with the understanding that payments would be made--and that's all good. In fact my exact words to the individual were: "pay what you can, when you can" when he fell on hard times. I received 2 small payments, 1 in 08, and 1 in Jan 09, then nothing. Contact lost. Emails unanswered--Emails, mind you, where I simply asked for contact---not harping about money due.

It isn't about the money. I'll blow $600 in a night in Vegas, it's the damn principle of the thing. My $20 bill is missing, and the blow to my image of so-called trusted members is far more severe than a measly 600 bucks.

Moral of the story---If nothing else, always maintain your integrity. Had this person simply made contact with me, I was going to announce "Happy Birthday" the preamp is yours, paid in full, don't send another cent---but I waited, and waited, and waited....nothing.

Have honor people. Have integrity. Have humility. It's ok to back out, it's not ok to just disappear.

Good post Steve, Your atitude is what I strive for every day..... some day's it's damn hard though.:o