APC H10 vs H15 Power conditioner

acmf74
acmf74 Posts: 937
edited March 2010 in Electronics
I'm looking for a power conditioner/surge protector and was recommended the APC line. Are the two identical except for the H15 having the led readout?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,248
    edited March 2010
    Yes and the Kva rating 10 for the model 10 and 15 for the model 15.

    try doing a search as this has been covered a few times recently.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited March 2010
    H15 has higher protection power if I'm not mistaken.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited March 2010
    The H15 has a higher maximum input current, higher surge energy rating, higher equipment protection policy, etc etc etc...

    It's marketed as an improved H10, and it's exactly that. But it's up to you to decide if it's worth the extra coin. ;)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited March 2010
    I just bought the H15.

    Thanks all (I think.....whenever I visit here I spend more money) :p
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,248
    edited March 2010
    You'll like the display much better on the 15 than the 10
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited March 2010
    I'm going to need another one soon... i'll probably step back up to the H15 and move the H10 to HT duty.

    You'll like it. :) Let us know if you hear a sonic difference or not.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,248
    edited March 2010
    acmf74 wrote: »
    I just bought the H15.

    Thanks all (I think.....whenever I visit here I spend more money) :p

    Any good deals you've found? I bought mine new, shipped for $99 and I kick myself everyday for not buying 2. Cheapest I've seen a new one recently is around $279-$299.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited March 2010
    I am using an APC S15blk. No sonic difference at all for me.
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
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    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,248
    edited March 2010
    With the H15, I found it to have a blacker background..............it just made things very, very quiet. Also seemed to improve bass a tad and I think because of the dead quiet background the soundstage is slightky better. It definitely improved the cable TV signal.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited March 2010
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited March 2010
    Congrats! The APC units are excellent. I'm using an H10 in my 2 channel rig, and couldn't be happier. I'll probably move up to an H15 eventually, and use the H10 on a secondary rig.
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited March 2010
    Just got the unit last night and looks like a quality product.

    In the back of the unit there is a Ground Loop connector.

    Is anyone using this and do you use a regular ground wire for it?

    The manual doesn't go into much detail from what I saw.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,248
    edited March 2010
    FTR, I don;t use it.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited March 2010
    I plugged it in for a few minutes last night and the "Wiring OK Status" light wasn't lit. Not sure if there is a wiring issue but I decided to run a dedicated line from the fuse box to the APC unit. Hopefully this will fix this.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,248
    edited March 2010
    If the light didn't light up.............then yes, there is an issue. Most issues are reversed polarity. A dedicated line is a great idea anyways. So just do that and then use the conditioner
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,229
    edited March 2010
    I just picked up a J15blk last week. It's a really nice unit. It's really long and quite heavy but it has 12 outlets and batter backup which is exactly what I needed. It's maxed out LOL. I slimmed down some of my gear and I still am stacked.
    Dan
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