Finally!

concealer404

I feel dumb and shallow for asking this... but i've never seen black faced Jolida gear. Does it exist?

kcoc321

concealer404 wrote: »

I feel dumb and shallow for asking this... but i've never seen black faced Jolida gear. Does it exist?

IDK, but Nik paints them be-uti-filly..:D

concealer404

kcoc321 wrote: »

IDK, but Nik paints them be-uti-filly..:D

Good point.

Any other CDPs i should be looking at in that price range? Tubed or otherwise? I don't really feel the NEED for more warmth in my system, so i'm not real bugged about needing a tubed output.

leroyjr1

concealer404 wrote: »

I feel dumb and shallow for asking this... but i've never seen black faced Jolida gear. Does it exist?

I think Jolida sells an optional black faceplate. Contact F1NUT I've heard him mention it before.

Sherardp

Awesome bro! Congrats on the raise.

Retro152

Hey Concealer, congrats on your raise.:D Nice news to read given the **** state of the economy, and to a Member is a plus.:D Good luck.



Pat.

concealer404

Alright, update.

DISCLAIMER: Do not take me as a whiny, ungrateful employee, please.


They've offered me 12% increase. The money is not the issue.

There are three job functions in my unit. Customer service, Claims, and Multi-Functional. I am a "Multi." This means that i've been trained in both categories, and that i do work pertaining to both. Multis make more than either customer service or claims, and claims makes the least.

I am currently a "Multi II."

Now. They are doing away with the "Multi" designation because it was found that MOST people with that title were really doing one or the other, not both, due to business needs. I don't fall in this category, because what i do isn't really in ANY of these job descriptions in the first place. Without getting too in to the details, i do systems testing, write process workflows, work directly with sales, business and systems analyst teams, and our client themselves along with customer service and claims to make sure that this new process for "co-mingling" RX and medical is working smoothly. (It's not. That's why i'm working 60 hour weeks, and why i'm fixing the process, which is really the analysts' job.)

Raises are good. Since they're doing away with "Multi", they've offered me "Claims III."

BUT, what they've offered me is LESS than every Customer Service III employee makes in this same unit, and i am more senior than any of them, and not to toot my own horn, i am WAY more valuable to the company than any of them. Terrible thing to say, but it's true. I started with this company as Customer Service, and volunteered to do what i do to help out the unit and ensure that we keep this client that we're having problems with.

With this raise, it's become apparent to me that i would be making MORE money now if i had just stayed with Customer Service, done half the work at best, and not volunteered to learn all these other systems/processes and to fix all these problems.

I'm almost inclined to turn down this raise. Not from a money standpoint, because more money is always good, but for the principle of things. I've already fought this out with my manager, and they aren't coming back with any change in the offer. I'm not looking for MORE money than the customer service area, i'm very used to acheiving more production than anyone else in the unit for the same or less pay, but i'd like to at least be paid the same as these people.

Basically, i feel shafted more in that this shows me that my manager considers me LESS valuable than these other employees, while i bust my **** for 60 hours a week for months on end, regularly hit 200% or higher of production standards, and continually help those same people that make more than me when they're stuck on customer service issues, because i know the answers, i know how to fix them. I've got more experience, and way more working knowledge.

The catch: I'm NOT supposed to know how much these people make, so i can't use that as leverage.

Here's my choices:

1) Take the raise, suck it up. This locks me into that position for another year "under contract." There are loopholes to get around that, mainly "business needs," but most hiring managers in other departments will try to avoid that situation.

2) Turn down the raise, wait for something in a high level unit to come up. (Client Migration, Business Analyst, Auditor, etc etc etc.) No guarantee that anything will open up, or that i'd even be the top candidate for that anytime in the very near future.

3) Somehow fight the issue further with HR. No idea how i would do this, considering that i'm not supposed to know what anyone else makes. I can use Market Reference Point salary figures to my advantage, but this location typically pays below that anyways, because of the low cost of living in this area.



Has anyone else here ever encountered anything like this? I fear this will be a losing battle, being that this is a HUGE Corporate company and in the end, i know i'm not REALLY that important to the company as a whole. But on the flip side, if this unit loses me, i can guarantee with 99% certainty that they WILL lose this client. It would take easily 6 months to prepare another candidate to get a handle on what i do daily, and at least that long again to bring them up to speed, since i'm the only employee in National Operations that has been working on these new systems since the beginning of 2009. They haven't brought anyone else onto it yet, because the kinks aren't ironed out, so therefor, no training yet.


I'm afraid this post may come across as being in poor taste, especially considering Cathy's thread yesterday. I assure you, it's not meant that way. I am grateful to have a job.

Thanks in advance for any input.

hearingimpared

Nothing in the corporate world salary wise is non-negotiable. If you do know what the other salaries are, use it to your advantage. Just because they don't want others to know the salary structures doesn't mean they don't know that people are aware of these other salaries. I would try to negotiate with HR, NOT YOUR MANAGER, and see how you come out.

You will have better luck presenting your case to HR. Do it in a professional and confident manner, showing your productive value. They will be more inclined to see it your way as your manager has budget constraints and an ego to deal with.

Just MHO as I was in the corporate world for over 30 years.

concealer404

Thanks Joe.

I realized shortly after posting it in here that i should have just created a new thread, so i did. Sorry 'bout that.

I appreciate the input.