Not happy with new receiver.

shaynster
shaynster Posts: 10
edited March 2010 in Electronics
I replaced my Yamaha RX-797 stereo receiver with a Yamaha RX-V465 HT receiver and it sounds like crap in stereo. It sounds really good watching movies, but when you crank it up on music it doesn't sound near as good as the RX-797. The RX-797 has .019 THD and the RX-V465 has .9 THD is that the reason? My question is, is there a way to hook one set of speakers to both receivers and switch back and forth for music and HT? I would only be hooking the front left and right up to both which are Monitor 70's.

Thanks,
Shayn
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  • howardru
    howardru Posts: 26
    edited February 2010
    Why not return it? Most retailers or etailers will take returns within 30 days.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,724
    edited February 2010
    Crap in / Crap out. Take it back and save your $$ for a better receiver.
    Sorry to be so blunt but it is the truth.
  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited February 2010
    I am kinda of a Yamaha guy but I don't care for there low end receivers. Go with a new or used Yamaha RX-V model. You can find older models that are up to five years old that would blow your low end model away. Look for a RX-V2500 and up series in 7.1 if that is the HT system you want. I have a couple of older 6.1 models I really like, the 2200 and 2300 that work well but they don't have HDMI. You can do much better. Just research the features you want. There is a reciever that will fit the bill. If not Yamaha then Onkyo or Pioneer come to mind.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,650
    edited February 2010
    Crap in / Crap out. Take it back and save your $$ for a better receiver.
    Sorry to be so blunt but it is the truth.

    Agreed on this one...

    You can get an RX-v4600 on ebay for that money if you keep on the look-out for it.
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  • shaynster
    shaynster Posts: 10
    edited February 2010
    I was pretty happy with the RX-797 for music, so I thought I would be happy with the home theater receiver. I guess I should have checked into it better.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,650
    edited February 2010
    shaynster wrote: »
    I was pretty happy with the RX-797 for music, so I thought I would be happy with the home theater receiver. I guess I should have checked into it better.

    Don't sweat it, as we are all here to help you stimulate the economy by helping you open your wallet and spend shitloads of cash on stuff you never wanted, but once you have it you cannot live without.;):D
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,650
    edited February 2010
    I was making a joke there x... wake up dude. I also said CASH... credit cards are the work of the Devil.
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  • Mon40CSMM10
    Mon40CSMM10 Posts: 161
    edited February 2010
    For music, I have found that I prefer setting the Front mains to Large, reducing the subwoofer channel volume in the receiver's channel settings to half the home theater calibrated volume (so in my case, I decreased it from +7.0 dB down to +3.5 dB), and then using a 100 Hz crossover rather than 80 Hz.

    This helps to make sure that the subwoofer complements the bass from the front mains at normal listening volumes (and that it turns off at lower volumes so as not to overpower the bass from the mains), and at the same time ensures that the subwoofer will still be used for any LFE sound in movies.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,650
    edited February 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    Amazon and Emotiva would disappear if we couldn't use credit cards.:eek:

    I knew there was a reason credit cards should be banned.:D
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  • shaynster
    shaynster Posts: 10
    edited February 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    We all learn from our mistakes. Do you think that you can exchange the Yamaha RX-V465 for a better HT receiver?

    I bought it from Tiger Direct so I could probably send it back, but I don't really have the extra money to add to it right now. That's why I was wanting to use both receivers and switch back and forth.

    Shayn
  • shaynster
    shaynster Posts: 10
    edited February 2010
    Thanks for the advice. I guess if I'm going to spend $87 I should just wait and upgrade the receiver.

    Shayn
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,248
    edited February 2010
    The rx797 did sound good, Yamaha of yesteryear where really good sounding receivers both home theater and music reproduction. but today and over the last few year , their sound quality has slipped.

    I suggest returning it and getting into a Pioneer ELite vsx21 or if you can afford it a SC-25. Both of these receivers sound amazing I feel the best of their price classes. I have yet to hear a better sounding receiver for music or movies for the money. Marantz is the only company that makes music first sounding receivers that I could consider if I was shopping for something musical as well as theater.

    Sony es a good job but they are also not what they use to be. Pioneer and Marantz seem to be the only companies still making great sounding receivers for both. Denon fell of the side of the earth as well. Shame all these companies made great sounding and debatable fantastic receivers.
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited February 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    You also can't buy on the internet using cash.

    Yes you can....more and more e-tailers are accepting PayPal which can be funded from your checking account or simply use your debit card. I agree, Credit Cards are a dangerous thing to mess with.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited February 2010
    When Yamaha came out with their RX-Vx65 line, the first thing everyone talked about was the significant weight reduction, especially in the lower end models. I'm not sure, but I don't think the amps get decent in the new line until the 765. I had a 661 and looked into a 663 and both of these were much much beefier than the 665. I would suggest at least the 765, or better yet, look for a deal on a x61 or x63 series. I don't think you'll lose anything significant feature-wise from dropping back a series or two.
  • jimmydep
    jimmydep Posts: 1,305
    edited February 2010
    If your thinking about running speakers off the Yammie RX-v665, I would suggest choosing another Receiver. I'm using the 665 as a pre-pro and it works great, but when I used the amplifier section for a short time, I was very disappointed.
  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited February 2010
    xcapri79 wrote: »
    With access to a checking account you have no recourse if an error is made.
    It can be ok with no mistakes but it is disasterous if a mistake is made and mistakes do happen. With a credit card, you have some recourse via the credit card company to rectify a mistake.

    Good point....I was just responding to the fact a purchase CAN be made with no CC.:)
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  • klove2
    klove2 Posts: 38
    edited February 2010
    I have the Marantz sr-7001 and i will not listen to quality recordings in any other mode but 2 channel stereo. This receiver does and excellent job with quality recordings in 2 channel mode. You could probably find one for under 500.00. Not the most recent hdmi updates but still and execellent receiver if you can find it for 500.00 or less.
  • raidersrule76
    raidersrule76 Posts: 471
    edited February 2010
    I knew there was a reason credit cards should be banned.:D

    Don't take away my debit card:eek: I would not be able to survive without it!


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  • renowilliams
    renowilliams Posts: 920
    edited February 2010
    shaynster wrote: »
    I replaced my Yamaha RX-797 stereo receiver with a Yamaha RX-V465 HT receiver and it sounds like crap in stereo. It sounds really good watching movies, but when you crank it up on music it doesn't sound near as good as the RX-797. The RX-797 has .019 THD and the RX-V465 has .9 THD is that the reason? My question is, is there a way to hook one set of speakers to both receivers and switch back and forth for music and HT? I would only be hooking the front left and right up to both which are Monitor 70's.

    Thanks,
    Shayn

    Don't forget to check out the used/referbished market out. Sometimes ou will find a gem out there for a good price. You can check out reviews online on just about anything. I found my avr that way and have been very pleased.

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  • renowilliams
    renowilliams Posts: 920
    edited February 2010
    shaynster wrote: »
    I replaced my Yamaha RX-797 stereo receiver with a Yamaha RX-V465 HT receiver and it sounds like crap in stereo. It sounds really good watching movies, but when you crank it up on music it doesn't sound near as good as the RX-797. The RX-797 has .019 THD and the RX-V465 has .9 THD is that the reason? My question is, is there a way to hook one set of speakers to both receivers and switch back and forth for music and HT? I would only be hooking the front left and right up to both which are Monitor 70's.

    Thanks,
    Shayn

    Don't forget to check out the used/referbished market out. Sometimes you will find a gem out there for a good price. You can check out reviews online on just about anything. I found my avr that way and have been very pleased.

    Good Luck
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  • NewHTguy
    NewHTguy Posts: 584
    edited February 2010
    You might want to consider whether you will ever play two-channel music from your CDP/BDP using analogue outs. The reason is that a nice player will probably have superior DACS and that along with your receiver could be good enough. I don't have the most refined ear, but I could definitely tell a difference between the Burr-Brown DACS in my Onkyo 875 and the Wolfram DACS in my Cambridge CDP. Some people here discount the importance of DACS, while other spend a lot of moneyon them. Persoanlly, I'm sold on their importance.
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  • Brian131
    Brian131 Posts: 29
    edited March 2010
    I feel the same about the 465. It's ok for RM speakers, but if you're really wanting to crank it up, as in music, it doesn't sound as good. I have a HTR5540 from a htib that I had in college, and it seems like it is more powerful (even though it's rated 75w x 5). It is also about 4-5 lbs heavier. OH WELL ! I am STUCK with the 465 because I got an entire system and my fiance had to wait on new furniture because we also got a puppy for Christmas and didn't want to mess up the furniture. She is usually very cool with me when I want new things, but if I say that I want a new receiver, four months after this one, I will be marrying my future EX-Wife.

    As a side-note, the 465 as well as Pioneer's 819 (i think that's it) are aimed at getting HDMI technology and blu ray codec-ready receivers into American homes, at a decent price (imo). They don't really leave you much room to expand your system or offer you a great amount of power. However, if you're going to watch blu rays and play video games with moderately-sized speakers, then these receivers are actually pretty good for that.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2010
    The lower series Yamaha have pretty much been cheaped out. They're lighter, and have less 'real' power so you perceptions are quite accurate. I agree with some of the posts above for Yamaha (and they are not my favorite AVRs at all) you need to get up into the 1XXX series and higher!

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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,099
    edited March 2010
    mantis wrote: »
    The rx797 did sound good, Yamaha of yesteryear where really good sounding receivers both home theater and music reproduction. but today and over the last few year , their sound quality has slipped.

    I suggest returning it and getting into a Pioneer ELite vsx21 or if you can afford it a SC-25. Both of these receivers sound amazing I feel the best of their price classes. I have yet to hear a better sounding receiver for music or movies for the money. Marantz is the only company that makes music first sounding receivers that I could consider if I was shopping for something musical as well as theater.

    Sony es a good job but they are also not what they use to be. Pioneer and Marantz seem to be the only companies still making great sounding receivers for both. Denon fell of the side of the earth as well. Shame all these companies made great sounding and debatable fantastic receivers.

    I agree completely. I used to be a Yamaha guy and still have my older RX-V receivers doing 2nd duty. I went with a Pioneer SC-05 about 18 months ago and I am completely happy with (not to get into another Pioneer love-fest:p). Alot of people also like Harmon Kardon AVRs for music, but their HMDI switching WAS buggy awhile back on the 354s I believe...
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2010
    Not to disagree...but feature wise Onkyo provides the 'most' for your money. Whether you like its sound or not is another story. It is certainly 'good' in HT modes....less musical in the 2 channel mode but OK there.

    Pioneers are good AVRs but feature wise, value wise...the Onkyo just has 'more'. This is also true of Marantz. Marantz IS BACK...but it's OVERPRICED! When a 6004 costs as much as an Onkyo 1007....something is not 'right'??

    Why Denons have fallen in quality is beyond me. I own an AVR 2807...it sounds very good! Has been running almost 3 years and makes a great pre-amp? It was made in Japan! Higher models of Denons continue to be made in Japan....why would they be 'inferior' today? What are the Japanese doing? Not using the very same plants, engineers, and workers that put my 2807 together? I find it 'mysterious'?

    BTW no 2000 series Denon is made in Japan anymore!

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