Is it socially irresponsible to use a diesel truck to commute...

Huck344

What's with all the hate against Al Gore? Come on, he did invent the internet. . . Oh wait, that was a lie.

I think we all do what we can within our means. But, we shouldn't judge nor dictate other people's use. I can't even begin to tell you how many times someone has told me that they are doing good things for the environment by driving a Prius. . . Hey Jackhole, it still has a combustion engine that emits CO2. It's not doing anything to improve the environment!

hearingimpared

bobman1235 wrote: »

How about just a functioning, normal, member of society?

You should look out for number 1 first, of course, I just don't understand why people go out of their way to be ****, or why it inspires ire when someone essentially says "consider the rest of the world when making a decision." Especially when you same jerkoffs pretend to be religious, considering Jesus's number one frickin decree was supposedly about treating others well.
Put it this way... there's no law against farting in an elevator, but it still makes you an ****.

Wow where did that come from and what has that to do with this discussion?

THAT is indeed offensive Bob!

tonyb

Somehow I knew this thread was going to take a left turn. No pun intended.

comfortablycurt

You're fine. A couple years ago, there was a 3 month period when I was basically driving a 16,000 lb bucket truck daily. I'd use it for my grocery shopping...going to friends houses...whatever...lol

But, that's what happens when your car breaks down and you can't afford to fix it...lol



Also, not to add fuel to the fire. But diesels are really more environmentally friendly than gas engines. Especially when you run them on soy bio-diesel...which by the way, requires absolutely no modification to your engine or fuel system, despite what you may hear elsewhere. Is it the end all answer? Hell no...but it's a step in the right direction.


One of the biggest problems is the people driving Hummers, Chevy Suburbans and Ford Expeditions when they're single...no family...a few mile drive to work, and absolutely no legitimate reason to own a truck. The world NEEDS trucks...but the average person doesn't.

tonyb

no legitimate reason to own a truck

Your kidding I hope. This is still america, were we can buy what we want, when we want.and how we want,for whatever reason floats our boat. Speaking of boats, is there a "legitimate reason" to buy a boat if you don't live on a lake ? How about a private plane?

comfortablycurt

tonyb wrote: »

no legitimate reason to own a truck

Your kidding I hope. This is still america, were we can buy what we want, when we want.and how we want,for whatever reason floats our boat. Speaking of boats, is there a "legitimate reason" to buy a boat if you don't live on a lake ? How about a private plane?

Umm...I was referring to the people that really don't have a legitimate reason to own a truck. I wasn't saying that NOBODY needs a truck.

I'm referring to the people that never carry anything more in their car than some groceries once a week, and a suitcase on the way to work. People that don't have a boat or anything to tow. People with no families to cart around.

Many people do have a legitimate reason for needing a truck or SUV...but most people that go out and buy a Hummer just to look cool really have no reason to need a truck.


Also, yes there are a lot of legitimate reasons for needing a boat or a plane. Many people use them in their lines of work.

Also, a boat generally isn't your daily driver to and from work. Nor is a private plane.

nooshinjohn

comfortablycurt wrote: »

Umm...I was referring to the people that really don't have a legitimate reason to own a truck. I wasn't saying that NOBODY needs a truck.

I'm referring to the people that never carry anything more in their car than some groceries once a week, and a suitcase on the way to work. People that don't have a boat or anything to tow. People with no families to cart around.

Many people do have a legitimate reason for needing a truck or SUV...but most people that go out and buy a Hummer just to look cool really have no reason to need a truck.


Also, yes there are a lot of legitimate reasons for needing a boat or a plane. Many people use them in their lines of work.

Also, a boat generally isn't your daily driver to and from work. Nor is a private plane.

Sorry Curt... I love ya like a brother but I don't agree. Bottom line is IF I wanted to drive a freakin' Conventional cab Peterbuilt with a double sleeper and a 55 foot trailer behind it for no other purpose than to go to MickyD's for a double bacon angus and three orders of french fries, then GOD bless the U.S.A. Granted, that would be a stupid thing to do for the cost of fuel alone, but it is still the choice of the owner to decide what vehicle they wish to own and how they choose to drive it.

I am getting sick of the demonization of America. They can have the keys to my vehicle of choice(Hummer, Ferrari, Peterbuilt,etc) when they pry them from my cold dead fingers.

tonyb

I don't think you understood my point.
Why...Why do you need a legitimate reason,as you say, to buy anything? AND,who are you to decide for me if that reason is in fact,legitimate? So what if a single guy buys a Hummer,what concern is that of yours? You should be happy because the people that make those hummers could keep their jobs alittle longer, and the wheels of the economic engine turn.

bobman1235

hearingimpared wrote: »

Wow where did that come from and what has that to do with this discussion?

THAT is indeed offensive Bob!

Boo hoo. I find the "screw everyone but me" attitude offensive. I find hypocrisy offensive, which is why I always get sucked into these threads.

I'm a libertarian for the most part, I think people should be left to make their own decisions and do what they want, but I also think how they make those decisions says a lot about what type of person they are. Again, this has nothing to do with someone choosing to drive a truck to the train station, but this thread went off into the broader meaning of "social responsibility." In my mind being "socially responsible" is a good thing, when you CHOOSE to do it to make other people's lives easier and better and society function better as a whole.

When instead you say things like :

hearingimpaired wrote:

I look out for number 1 first which means me, my wife and my child. .... I would like to take that phrase "Socially Responsible" and shove up the person's arse who first coined the phrase.

... then yes, I question how you can reconcile that with your supposed belief system, considering it goes exactly contrary to it.

John30_30

Demiurge wrote: »

I'm with those who don't give a baboon's red **** what anyone thinks socially about my driving habits. If it works for you, do it. No, that doesn't mean I would in all situations, but in the winter time -- definitely.

Those red assed baboons are A PROTECTED SPECIES, PAL.

treitz3

Hmmm, I rode a bicycle exclusively for over a quarter of a century commuting an ungodly amount of miles per day. Rain, snow, ice, fog, wind, blazing heat, humidity, bugs, mud, unpaved roads, drivers cutting you off, hitting you...... It's funny how what you think your **** is? There's always folks that can **** about the driving habits of YOU.

What's your carbon footprint?

hearingimpared

bobman1235 wrote: »

Boo hoo. I find the "screw everyone but me" attitude offensive. I find hypocrisy offensive, which is why I always get sucked into these threads.

I'm a libertarian for the most part, I think people should be left to make their own decisions and do what they want, but I also think how they make those decisions says a lot about what type of person they are. Again, this has nothing to do with someone choosing to drive a truck to the train station, but this thread went off into the broader meaning of "social responsibility." In my mind being "socially responsible" is a good thing, when you CHOOSE to do it to make other people's lives easier and better and society function better as a whole.

When instead you say things like :



... then yes, I question how you can reconcile that with your supposed belief system, considering it goes exactly contrary to it.

I never said, "screw everyone else!" Don't put words in my mouth man. You are way out of line and really reaching, linking what I said to my religious beliefs whether you think they are "supposed" or not.

Once again you take every opportunity to put down Christians and cry hypocrisy! Your anti-Christian agenda has always been blatantly obvious.

You once told me you are a Christian for the most part the last time this nonsense was brought up by you.

dorokusai

I pour gasoline and diesel on the ground and laugh as it flows into my local watershed.

halo71

dorokusai wrote: »

I pour gasoline and diesel on the ground and laugh as it flows into my local watershed.

This is why we are at the top of the food chain folks!


I use to drive 65 miles one way to work! That was before my company closed its doors and I was unemployed for 8 months. I now drive 14 miles one way. And I drive a big ole' truck too. Do I haul something everyday? No. But when I need to its there. I firmly believe in never bringing a knife to a gun fight.:p

Jetmaker737

The OP is trolling and admitted it in post #31. It's not hard to figure out which buzzwords will get the polkies riled up. In the clubhouse it's anything "green", "liberal", "Obama". In the audio sections it's "Emo". You guys are pure troll bait.

lightman1

I drive a big, nasty, fossil fuel burnin, smoke billowin' 5mpg duramax 22,000lb bucket truck. It's my office, home away from home. I commute to the driveway and drive 700-800 miles a week and fill that sumbitch up with 40 gallons of dead dinosaur on a daily basis.
But the lights stay on.....f*ckers.....

Conradicles

hehe...that is sig material...

Jstas

Jetmaker737 wrote: »

The OP is trolling and admitted it in post #31. It's not hard to figure out which buzzwords will get the polkies riled up. In the clubhouse it's anything "green", "liberal", "Obama". In the audio sections it's "Emo". You guys are pure troll bait.

Go f@#$ yourself, douchenozzle.

halo71

lightman1 wrote: »

I drive a big, nasty, fossil fuel burnin, smoke billowin' 5mpg duramax 22,000lb bucket truck. It's my office, home away from home. I commute to the driveway and drive 700-800 miles a week and fill that sumbitch up with 40 gallons of dead dinosaur on a daily basis.
But the lights stay on.....f*ckers.....

May offend some tree huggers. But I think that is probably the funniest response I have seen yet. Outta all the EMO, cable etc. threads.

concealer404

Now that i think about it, it's probably MORE "socially irresponsible" (whatever the hell that even means, anyways) for me to drive my 20 year old Japanese economy car with it's little twinky 4-cylinder gas engine, than it is for someone to drive a modern diesel truck.

Take that as you may.

tonyb

dorokusai wrote: »

I pour gasoline and diesel on the ground and laugh as it flows into my local watershed.

Would expect nothing less from you Mark:D
You most likely do it in your assless chaps,with a huge grin on your face,smokeing a big fat cigar too. Now thats the american way.