Panny Plasmas in trouble...

ryanjoachim
ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
edited February 2010 in The Clubhouse
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/panasonic-cops-to-rising-black-levels-in-its-plasma-hdtvs-but-q/

Seems like a lot of people who bought Panny plasmas are starting to have issues with rising brightness levels.

Anyone experienced this first hand?
MrNightly wrote: »
"Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
mystik610 wrote: »
Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
My System:


TV: SAMSUNG UN55B7000 55" 1080p LED HDTV
HTPC: Chromecast w/ Plex Media Server. Media streamed from Media Server.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 10,999
    edited February 2010
    I own a Panny Viera and never noticed it. It's going on 3 yrs this Aug.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,383
    edited February 2010
    ryanjoachim wrote: »
    http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/panasonic-cops-to-rising-black-levels-in-its-plasma-hdtvs-but-q/

    Seems like a lot of people who bought Panny plasmas are starting to have issues with rising brightness levels.

    Anyone experienced this first hand?

    Sudden brightness acceleration has been a trouble for a long time. It is my understanding that Toyota is somehow responsible...:p;)

    I love the Panny's but they were out of my budget when I was looking for a TV.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • Zitro
    Zitro Posts: 864
    edited February 2010
    I have an Insignia cuz I'm broke lol. Works just fine though. I couldn't help it; $290 for a 26" out the door, including a full 4 year protection plan; I love open box discounts :)
    - Jeremy

    Amps: Jolida FX-10, NAD 3045, NAD C320BEE, Sansui G-9700
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited February 2010
    I haven't experienced, i've got a Panny Plasma, and it's great. :D
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

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    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

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  • Zeros
    Zeros Posts: 940
    edited February 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    I haven't experienced, i've got a Panny Plasma, and it's great. :D

    Same here, I have two of their 42" plasmas and have not seen this problem on either one.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited February 2010
    Yeah, i've got the 42" as well. Kindof wanting to pick up another for the bedroom. :D
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited February 2010
    No problems at all with my Panny viera....wait, I need some wood to knock on:eek:
    Polk Audio Surround Bar 360
    Mirage PS-12
    LG BDP-550
    Motorola HD FIOS DVR
    Panasonic 42" Plasma
    XBOX 360[/SIZE]

    Office stuff

    Allied 395 receiver
    Pioneer CDP PD-M430
    RT8t's & Wharfedale Diamond II's[/SIZE]

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  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited February 2010
    Same here, I bought a Panny Viera 42" 720p last May and haven't had any issues with it.

    Admittedly it doesn't get a lot of use, but it still hasn't had any problems.
    My equipment sig felt inadequate and deleted itself.
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  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited February 2010
    Love my 50" 1080p Panny plasma and no problems at all.
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited February 2010
    DaveMuell wrote: »
    Love my 50" 1080p Panny plasma and no problems at all.

    +1.

    Going on 2 years of heavy use - looks great!

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited February 2010
    No problems with my 58" Panny Plasma...
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 10,999
    edited February 2010
    I think it seems to be affecting the newer ones. Mine is not a 10-11-12G model

    Mine was something like THPX something like that
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  • grif32
    grif32 Posts: 267
    edited February 2010
    I have the TC-P50G10 and I got it. Panny is working on a fix. I don't think it's that wide spread as people make it out to be.
    (3) PS3's, Xbox 360, (2) Wii's and Nintendo NES
    (2) Panny DMPBDT110 3D Standalone Players
    Panny 60" 3D Plasma TC-60ST30
    Panny 50" Plasma TC-P50G10
    Panny 50" 3D TV TC-P50GT25
    Denon AVR-891
    Harmoney One Remote
    Polk Monitor 70's,Polk CS2, Polk Monitor 40's
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  • potee
    potee Posts: 610
    edited February 2010
    I think this first came up on the AVS forum. I have a 54V10 Panny no problems noted.

    By the way the guy at CNET went on to say that of the sets owned by the folks at CNET don't have any problems. But they are running tests and will for 2 months. They will than post any results good or bad.
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  • grif32
    grif32 Posts: 267
    edited February 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Sudden brightness acceleration has been a trouble for a long time. It is my understanding that Toyota is somehow responsible...:p;)

    I love the Panny's but they were out of my budget when I was looking for a TV.

    Really? You can get a 50" Panny Plasma 720P for $699. The PQ on that set will rival many 1080P sets costing 2 - 3x times that cost. Panny has been pretty affordable when it comes to their plasmas.
    (3) PS3's, Xbox 360, (2) Wii's and Nintendo NES
    (2) Panny DMPBDT110 3D Standalone Players
    Panny 60" 3D Plasma TC-60ST30
    Panny 50" Plasma TC-P50G10
    Panny 50" 3D TV TC-P50GT25
    Denon AVR-891
    Harmoney One Remote
    Polk Monitor 70's,Polk CS2, Polk Monitor 40's
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited February 2010
    I have noticed that the factory set up of these Panny Vierra from 37" up to 54" is maxed out to look good. If you reduce the brightness level -10, picture looks very dark.

    If my 50" Panny plasma can give me 4 to 5 years of enjoyment, I will be happy.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited February 2010
    I've got two TH-42PZ85U's....their about a year and a half, both have been used quite a bit. Have not noticed any issues here either.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,383
    edited February 2010
    grif32 wrote: »
    Really? You can get a 50" Panny Plasma 720P for $699. The PQ on that set will rival many 1080P sets costing 2 - 3x times that cost. Panny has been pretty affordable when it comes to their plasmas.
    Two and a half years ago, the Panasonics were running about 400 bucks more than the LG I picked up. I know today that gap is considerably less and that the TV I have is about 600 bucks less than I paid for it then...
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • grif32
    grif32 Posts: 267
    edited February 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Two and a half years ago, the Panasonics were running about 400 bucks more than the LG I picked up. I know today that gap is considerably less and that the TV I have is about 600 bucks less than I paid for it then...

    Got ya.. TV's have dropped so much in just two years. It's crazy.
    (3) PS3's, Xbox 360, (2) Wii's and Nintendo NES
    (2) Panny DMPBDT110 3D Standalone Players
    Panny 60" 3D Plasma TC-60ST30
    Panny 50" Plasma TC-P50G10
    Panny 50" 3D TV TC-P50GT25
    Denon AVR-891
    Harmoney One Remote
    Polk Monitor 70's,Polk CS2, Polk Monitor 40's
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  • bopicasso
    bopicasso Posts: 878
    edited February 2010
    I have a 5 year old 42" with no problems, and just bought a 50" S1. Hope I dont have any problems, just knocked on wood!
    Living Room setup: Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Krell KAV 300i, PS Audio DL III DAC, Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u, Dynaudio Audience 120C+, SVS 25/31PCI, B-P-T Clean Power Center, Ps3, Panny 50" S1 Plasma, Tekline speaker cables, Audio Art interconnects, and Pangea power cables.
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  • grif32
    grif32 Posts: 267
    edited February 2010
    anhchungdoan wrote: »
    I have noticed that the factory set up of these Panny Vierra from 37" up to 54" is maxed out to look good. If you reduce the brightness level -10, picture looks very dark.

    If my 50" Panny plasma can give me 4 to 5 years of enjoyment, I will be happy.

    I have my contrast down to 50 and brightness to 59 and my panny really pops. THX mode is dark but looks great for movies.

    I have a 42" Panny in the bedroom that I have had since 2003 and still going strong.

    You should get 22 - 30 years out of the current plasma's depending on viewing habbits.
    (3) PS3's, Xbox 360, (2) Wii's and Nintendo NES
    (2) Panny DMPBDT110 3D Standalone Players
    Panny 60" 3D Plasma TC-60ST30
    Panny 50" Plasma TC-P50G10
    Panny 50" 3D TV TC-P50GT25
    Denon AVR-891
    Harmoney One Remote
    Polk Monitor 70's,Polk CS2, Polk Monitor 40's
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited February 2010
    Some info from the web:

    Panasonic: States in new specifications that new plasma TVs and monitors are good to 60,000 to half life.

    Sony:Now out of the plasma market. Does not list a figure for LCD lineup.

    Samsung: Lists 60,000 hours for plasma lineup.

    Pioneer: States 60,000 hours of use in their 2008 models.

    Sharp LCD panels: States 60,000 hour life.

    For consumer use these numbers should be comforting. Plasma Displays are now about equivalent in longevity to LCDs, which typically state 60,000 hours. Consider that these figures are a great amount more than old CRTs, which regularly post life span to half brightness at 25,000 hours. Let's put these hours in perspective. The average U.S. household watches 4 to 6 hours of television per day. Staggering. Taking a mean time manufacturer stated longevity of 50,000 hours of usage, times our average 5 hours per day, calculates to over 27 years of usage. Now, there are varying degrees of phosphor ignition along the way (the same way a CRT fades). Dissipation begins the moment you turn the set on. After 1000 hours of usage a plasma monitor should measure around 96% of its original brightness, which is barely noticeable to the naked eye. At 15,000 to 20,000 hours the monitor should measure around 80% brightness, or to state is technically, 80% of the original phosphors (gases) are being ignited.

    About a 20 year life span.
    Polk Audio Surround Bar 360
    Mirage PS-12
    LG BDP-550
    Motorola HD FIOS DVR
    Panasonic 42" Plasma
    XBOX 360[/SIZE]

    Office stuff

    Allied 395 receiver
    Pioneer CDP PD-M430
    RT8t's & Wharfedale Diamond II's[/SIZE]

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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited February 2010
    ****, I just bought a TC-P50G10!:mad: Hope a fix is figured out and that it can be loaded from the PC port.:)
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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,045
    edited February 2010
    Panny has the brightness issue and Samsung has the obnoxious loud power supply problem... not a good time to be shopping for a plasma :mad:
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  • jimmydep
    jimmydep Posts: 1,305
    edited February 2010
    I've had a Panasonic 50" 720p plasma for almost 4 years, without any problems at all. The picture still looks as good as when I got it.
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  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited February 2010
    Could someone remind me what models of Panasonic plasmas are recent and...can they stand up to a 3 year old very well?
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    mystik610 wrote: »
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
    My System:


    TV: SAMSUNG UN55B7000 55" 1080p LED HDTV
    HTPC: Chromecast w/ Plex Media Server. Media streamed from Media Server.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2010
    Willow wrote: »
    I own a Panny Viera and never noticed it. It's going on 3 yrs this Aug.

    Same here, just bought one last month. Nothing but good results thus far.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2010
    Good to know info..........Im thinking of getting a 58'' plasma at Best Buy.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited February 2010
    Sherardp wrote: »
    Same here, just bought one last month. Nothing but good results thus far.

    +1^ had mine about a year with no problems
    panasonic th-50pz85u
    pioneer elite vsx-92txh
    pioneer elite bdp-05fd
    emotiva xpa-3
    monster power hdp 2550
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    sda 2b's
    fronts - rti a9's
    center - csi a6
    surrounds - fxi a6's
    sub - polk dsw pro 600
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  • justsomarvelous
    justsomarvelous Posts: 13
    edited February 2010
    i bought the 42" S1 early Jan and nothing is wrong with it..it was manufactured LATE 2009
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