Emotiva

jaxwired
jaxwired Posts: 201
edited February 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
Emotiva is apparently a very polarizing subject. I can understand why. People that have spent serious money don't appreciate other people stating they get similar results for a fraction of the price. Nobody wants to think they spent more than necessary. It also indirectly implies that the big spenders have been cheated. Them's fighting words, as they say...

Sound quality is currently still a very subjective topic, so there's no proving value for money. That's just opinion.

So, I would say that if people are happy with the Emotiva gear, than that's really great for them and the Emotiva company is doing a fine service for those people.

The heated discussions seem to stem from the Emotiva owners not just being satisfied, but insisting their gear is the equal to more established and much more expensive gear. This is a fools argument. As I've already stated, sound quality is subjective.

I've never heard any of their products myself. But I will say I don't like the way they look. If a company is going to offer high quality for low cost, I prefer it look like the money was spent on what counts. The Emotiva products look far to flashy for my taste. Flashy looks are fine if the product costs a fortune, but if it's a budget component, flashiness is tacky IMO. I don't want fake wood trim on the interior of my honda civic if you know what I mean.

But with all that said, I think most people will buy the cheapest product that meets their requirements. The Emotiva people are lucky their requirements have been met so very cheaply.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    No Comment. I will just grab some popcorn and wait for the show to start.
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  • Matt34
    Matt34 Posts: 318
    edited January 2010
    Ah yes, there is never a shortage of Emo threads here at Club Polk. I say five pages before this one dies a horrible death.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2010
    Anybody for a beer? Perhaps a Martini? How about a Rum and Coke on the rocks?
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Anybody for a beer? Perhaps a Martini? How about a Rum and Coke on the rocks?

    Are you buyin';)
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2010
    For this? Yes.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • NJPOLKER
    NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
    edited January 2010
    These threads/trolling should be ignored.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited January 2010
    Again????...

    This is my first and last post on the subject: If one really wants to buy a BMW but can't afford it, and instead, buy a Kia and pretend that it drives like a BMW, then I'd say more power to him.

    Tom, I'll take Jack on the rock straight. Cheers.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    Bloody Mary here, please.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    Rum& Coke for me... do you have that good Mexican coke or should I bring my own?
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    I'll supply the Mexican Coke.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • superjunior
    superjunior Posts: 1,632
    edited January 2010
    white russian here please :p
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited January 2010
    Ill have a mexican coke too.That american stuff sucks.
    Or maybe a throwback pepsi or dew
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    I'll supply the Mexican Coke.


    Imported from Bolivia.
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  • LuSh
    LuSh Posts: 887
    edited January 2010
    Time will let the hype die...most of the people who write the lengthy blogs haven't played with much else...I along with many others on this forum have seen the 'hype of the year' type electronics all to often...these type of people are usually new to audio or haven't played around with enough stuff to think outside the box i.e. all solid state amplifiers sound the same and CD players are all the same...cables are snake oil and every so often a Roger Russell link and DBT's are thrown in for good measure.

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2010
    I'm gonna need another bartender here. Now hiring.....
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  • Rodeo0530
    Rodeo0530 Posts: 797
    edited January 2010
    concealer404 wrote: »
    Bloody Mary here, please.

    Me too!


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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2010
    I wish Emotiva made beer :p
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2010
    They do. Milwaukee's Best Light.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited January 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    They do. Milwaukee's Best Light.


    I never have understood the idea behind light beer. That has to be one of the most useless ideas ever conceived, yet it is a perfect example of the gullibility of the average consumer. To stay on-topic, I guess one could consider Emotiva to be the audio equivalent of light beer.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited January 2010
    I don't want fake wood trim on the interior of my honda civic if you know what I mean.

    Huh? That is not the vehicle to use in that analogy! Bentley, Mercedes....BMW maybe.....but not Honda. Come on now, stop trolling for a flame war! :rolleyes:
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  • del44
    del44 Posts: 686
    edited January 2010
    I think the topic should be about beer. I kinda like Budweiser.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited January 2010
    I am kinda a Guiness, Becks Extra Dark kind of guy myself! :D
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2010
    Better Question. Will a moderator please remove all idiots and trolls?

    Here's everybody's drinks *passes them all out and more*, sorry about the wait. Another bartender will be here shortly. Anybody else need a drink? Double shots for those who have been waiting patiently!
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2010
    Budweiser is like drinking cat piss.. blech. No worse... cat piss actually tastes better than Bud :eek: ;)
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    danger boy wrote: »
    Budweiser is like drinking cat piss.. blech. No worse... cat piss actually tastes better than Bud :eek: ;)

    You woudln't happen to have a video of the experiment in which you arrived at this conclusion, would you?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    treitz3 wrote: »
    They do. Milwaukee's Best Light.
    How can you compare this beer to Sam Adams or Killians Irish Red?;)

    Clearly Milwalkee's Worst is at best an entry level brew made by rank amateurs and is not worthy of even being discussed here.:D
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited January 2010
    fbm211 wrote: »
    Ill have a mexican coke too.That american stuff sucks.
    Or maybe a throwback pepsi or dew
    I'm workin' on it but you have to meet me in the back room where the [confidential] is......;)
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited January 2010
    That reminds me, I gave a couple Mich orig. lager left.
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    Correction: one left.
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  • jaxwired
    jaxwired Posts: 201
    edited January 2010
    Hey, I was hoping for some type of back lash. Very dissapointing.

    My own fault for not having a point....
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited January 2010
    Plenty more people buy Honda Civic than Bugatti Veyron :D That's mostly because they could not afford to buy the Veyron, not because they think the Civic is a better machine.

    I love my Emo XPA-5 because I only pay $800 for a brand new piece of separate, and it can make my lsi set perform a lot better than plugging them directly to my AVR. That is a stated fact, to me.

    To me, it's a better value to own a brand new piece that wouldn't make me disappointed at how it performs. I have the piece of mind that I am the first owner of it, that it hasn't gone through the wear and tear of heat and time or the abuse of its previous owner(s).

    Of course, it's still the first amp I have owned, ever. In the future, if I have enough money to "upgrade", I will try other brands of so-called better hardware, no doubt about it. That's why I am hanging at AV forums, to learn and to prepare "upgrading" my AV set.

    During that "upgrading" journey, I will have some downfalls --- getting scammed, or purchasing a bad piece of AV device, blah blah blah; I will also have plenty of happiness --- collecting knowledges, yearning for the AV nirvana :D

    So right now, I can proudly say that my Emo XPA-5 has made me quite happy, at this moment! It doesn't matter if it's a Civic or a Veyron. The fact of the matter is it's my baby, nicely located inside my entertainment center, and is such a necessary piece of hardware within the scheme.

    I am happy :D
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