sad day

superjunior

well last night I've decided I'm going to part ways with my sda2bs. they just don't seem to like my room? I know placement is critical with these speakers, maybe its my furniture configuration - I donno. they just don't hold a candle to my a9s for 2 channal listening and I want more. I might try out a pair of lsis, but I'm not to fond of the powered sub concept. do those have to be plugged in to a power outlet? whats the best musical speaker polk offers - past or preasent? anyhow I thought I'd throw it out there. I got them from lightman and they were owned by another club member before him, I don't remember who though. I probably put less than 3 hours on them. when I get replacements in my sights I'll post them up in the fm, offered only to a well established cp member. I want these to stay in club polk so I'll take them to my grave before they go anywhere else but here.

polrbehr

Damn- I've only had my 2Bs for two months now, and I wouldn't get rid of them for anything... well, within reason, and they certainly would be hard to beat for what I paid for them.

FYI, the only LSis I am aware of that have powered subs are the 25s. The 15s have side-firing subs, but they are amp driven with the rest of the drivers.

As for Polks best musical speakers? I have heard a very nice pair of LSi9s, and coupled with a good sub, they are hard to beat for 2 channel. Whether they are best or not is up to the listener, of course.

heiney9

Not to knock your gear, but it may be gear related. Perhaps the synergy is better with the A9's than 2B's. The farther up the chain you go with gear on SDA's the better and better they perform. I have yet to hear any of Polks current HT offerings better any SDA for 2 ch listening

Just something to think about.

H9

Pauly

heiney9 wrote: »

Not to knock your gear, but it may be gear related. Perhaps the synergy is better with the A9's than 2B's. The farther up the chain you go with gear on SDA's the better and better they perform. I have yet to hear any of Polks current HT offerings better any SDA for 2 ch listening

Just something to think about.

H9

+1

And 3 Hours is not enough time to make that big of a decision IMHO

Pauly

heiney9

Pauly wrote: »

+1

And 3 Hours is not enough time to make that big of a decision IMHO

Pauly

I missed that part. If you are only giving them 3 hours of listening time then perhaps this isn't your kind of hobby. Try a couple weeks minimum more like a month of "get aquainted" time.

Sheesh!

H9

superjunior

damn h-9 now you really got me thinking.. I do plan on upgrading my amp one of these days but its just amazing how different the two sound. I was thinking get rid of the sdas and grab the biggest, baddest full range towers I can find. aw hell I don't know what I want - my brain needs a time out

F1nut

How are they set up in your room and what's the room like?

Pauly

Carver and SDA's go great together.....


Also what is your source you are using?


Pauly

superjunior

F1nut wrote: »

How are they set up in your room and what's the room like?

hang on f-1, I'll post a pic or two

superjunior

Pauly wrote: »

Carver and SDA's go great together.....


Also what is your source you are using?


Pauly

actually been looking into possibly a sunfire grand cinama
using a pio bdp 05fd for cd

superjunior

I've tried moving them all over the room, the only place they sound really good is in the corners where the 9s are. and toed in, not facing forward - which I hear is not ideal with sdas so I just don't know. even than they just don't sound as good as the 9s (at least with my gear). I thought I would just move on and try something different - I donno...

Pauly

Nice Setup


Get 1C's


Pauly

Big Dawg

Are you using the interconnect? I don't see one. The SQ should still be good without it, but without the SDA effect.

It also looks like you still have SL2000s in there, which leads me to believe the crossovers are also original, so you're not really listening to 2Bs at their best.

If I was back in Cleveland, I'd let you listen to mine. I'm pretty sure that there are a number of Polkies with modded 2Bs in your area that would let you hear the difference.

One other thing - the RTiA9's are much brighter sounding than TL-modded SDA's. I find the SDA's are really easy to listen to for extended periods - even more than 3 hours in a single session. I've only heard the RTiA9's in a store, so my experience with them is limited. My impression was that they had detailed, precise, but very bright highs (maybe they mellow as they break in?), typically warm Polk mids, and over-emphasized bass (to my ears). My feeling is that for home theater, the RTiA9's would be really good, but a fully modded 2B is better at everything (but more laid back - I think of it as more natural).

Of course, I listen to jazz (and some classical) as much or more than rock, which may influence my preferences. My son, who loves metal, might prefer the RTiA9's. As they say, YMMV.

Dawg

heiney9

Perhaps SDA's aren't right for you. Just be sure and give them a fair audition before you move them on.

Your comment about going out and getting "the biggest, baddest" floor standers has me thinking your looking more for volume and sheer punch than refinement and accuracy. SDA's have an effortless sound to them and sometimes if your not used to them you don't think they are even playing that loud, whne they are. I find my 1C's playing at very loud levels when I pause music for a few minutes and then come back to them. Since they are so effortless and smooth and open I can acheive much higher volumes w/o fatigue or the need to cringe on loud passages. The RTia9's are the opposite with much more emphasis in the treble and a thicker, heavier more bloated less accurate bass. Some prefer those exaggerations in their music or rather they are used to it being there and when it's gone (like in the SDA's) they think something is missing when in fact it was never supposed to be there to begin with.

Just something else to think about.

H9

P.s. You have to use the cable or you are losing/missing 50% of the speakers output

Lowell_M

heiney9 wrote: »

Not to knock your gear, but it may be gear related. Perhaps the synergy is better with the A9's than 2B's. The farther up the chain you go with gear on SDA's the better and better they perform. I have yet to hear any of Polks current HT offerings better any SDA for 2 ch listening

Just something to think about.

H9

Hell... After a couple of hours listening to your SDA's I had to convince myself that my LSi15's still sounded good.

leroyjr1

superjunior wrote: »

hang on f-1, I'll post a pic or two

SDA's aren't for everyone and aren't for every type of music. There's certain music I listen too that just doesn't sound good with my SDA's then there's times when I fall in love with the sound.

hearingimpared

superjunior wrote: »

I've tried moving them all over the room, the only place they sound really good is in the corners where the 9s are. and toed in, not facing forward - which I hear is not ideal with sdas so I just don't know. even than they just don't sound as good as the 9s (at least with my gear). I thought I would just move on and try something different - I donno...

:eek::eek::eek::eek: Blasphamy!!!

That's a nice, clean looking setup you have there paisano.

Fongolio

The A-9's will have bigger overall bass but not nearly as clean and accurate as the SDA's. If big boom is what you're looking for stick with the A9's, but if a much more refined sound is what you want give the SDA's a while longer and your ears some time to adjust.

heiney9

Lowell_M wrote: »

Hell... After a couple of hours listening to your SDA's I had to convince myself that my LSi15's still sounded good.

Thanks..........glad you liked it, my main rig is very satisfying at this point until I make the next jump, with perhaps a different pre-amp. I was looking at the ModWright in the FM, it's very tempting at that price.

Hope you're enjoying the GFP-750; am I going to get it back eventually or will I have to send some "friends" over to extract it?

H9

heiney9

Fongolio wrote: »

The A-9's will have bigger overall bass but not nearly as clean and accurate as the SDA's. If big boom is what you're looking for stick with the A9's, but if a much more refined sound is what you want give the SDA's a while longer and your ears some time to adjust.

Not so sure about that. But then we all have our idea of what "bigger" is

headrott

heiney9 wrote: »

Perhaps SDA's aren't right for you. Just be sure and give them a fair audition before you move them on.

Your comment about going out and getting "the biggest, baddest" floor standers has me thinking your looking more for volume and sheer punch than refinement and accuracy. SDA's have an effortless sound to them and sometimes if your not used to them you don't think they are even playing that loud, whne they are. I find my 1C's playing at very loud levels when I pause music for a few minutes and then come back to them. Since they are so effortless and smooth and open I can acheive much higher volumes w/o fatigue or the need to cringe on loud passages. The RTia9's are the opposite with much more emphasis in the treble and a thicker, heavier more bloated less accurate bass. Some prefer those exaggerations in their music or rather they are used to it being there and when it's gone (like in the SDA's) they think something is missing when in fact it was never supposed to be there to begin with.

Just something else to think about.

H9

P.s. You have to use the cable or you are losing/missing 50% of the speakers output

All very good points H9.

Greg

Fongolio

heiney9 wrote: »

Not so sure about that. But then we all have our idea of what "bigger" is

More boom.

leroyjr1

heiney9 wrote: »

Thanks..........glad you liked it, my main rig is very satisfying at this point until I make the next jump, with perhaps a different pre-amp. I was looking at the ModWright in the FM, it's very tempting at that price.

Hope you're enjoying the GFP-750; am I going to get it back eventually or will I have to send some "friends" over to extract it?

H9

I know you didn't sell my Adcom.

lightman1

Hang on to 'em Dan. And where IS the interconnect? I know where you live.

heiney9

leroyjr1 wrote: »

I know you didn't sell my Adcom.

Nope, just a local Polk buddy borrowing it to hear it in his rig with an Adcom 555 and LSi 15's.

F1nut

heiney9 wrote: »

Perhaps SDA's aren't right for you. Just be sure and give them a fair audition before you move them on.

Your comment about going out and getting "the biggest, baddest" floor standers has me thinking your looking more for volume and sheer punch than refinement and accuracy. SDA's have an effortless sound to them and sometimes if your not used to them you don't think they are even playing that loud, whne they are. I find my 1C's playing at very loud levels when I pause music for a few minutes and then come back to them. Since they are so effortless and smooth and open I can acheive much higher volumes w/o fatigue or the need to cringe on loud passages. The RTia9's are the opposite with much more emphasis in the treble and a thicker, heavier more bloated less accurate bass. Some prefer those exaggerations in their music or rather they are used to it being there and when it's gone (like in the SDA's) they think something is missing when in fact it was never supposed to be there to begin with.

Just something else to think about.

H9

P.S. You have to use the cable or you are losing/missing 50% of the speakers output

Excellent post Brock and a very important point in your P.S.

Sherardp

hearingimpared wrote: »

:eek::eek::eek::eek: Blasphamy!!!

That's a nice, clean looking setup you have there paisano.

Agreed, I like this setup allot.

Toolfan66

1.)Interconnect (SDA) cable
2.)About 6" from the wall
3.)at least upgrade the tweeters/ or do the tl mod.
4.)This is a must SPIKE THEM. get them off the floor.
5.)If you can swing it some time get a pre-amp with HT bypass, if you ever go seperates with 2 channel sound you will never go back to a stand alone receiver again.
6.)I will jump out and say it only cause I have had 2 of them on my SDA's and hated it.
Get a better amp Emotiva has just sucked for me with the SDA's. not knocking your gear as I am still running the XPA-3 in my HT. For some it may mesh well with their gear for me no effin way.


You do have a very nice looking set up/Keep the SDA's and do little tweeks at a time. If I was you I would spike them first. Second I would look at doing the tl mod on them, that means upgrading the crossovers and tweeters. after about 100 hours if you come back saying the A9's still sound better then it might just be time to get your hearing checked LOL.

Peace.

Lowell_M

heiney9 wrote: »

Hope you're enjoying the GFP-750; am I going to get it back eventually or will I have to send some "friends" over to extract it?

H9

I was just hoping you forgot I borrowed it. :rolleyes: I'll bring it back after MIchele has a chance to hear it. She'll be back Monday.

superjunior

thats an old pic and the interconnect cable and new speaker cables aren't in it. I don't think I've ever tried them without the ic cable. anyhow lots of good advice here and I appreciate it. guess I'll hang on to em and try some tweaking - spikes and tl mod and see what happens. thanks fellas

Toolfan66

I think in the end you will be happy you did SJ.