Those of you that have listened to many different Polks...

Bubinga99
Bubinga99 Posts: 283
edited January 2010 in Vintage Speakers
How would you rank order the ones you've heard (excluding the SRS line)?

Mainly the vintage models but I'd be interested where you'd put the LSi and RTiA's in that ranking too.

If you have heard an all-original and a resto-mod of a given model, I'd be interested in how that affects your ranking.

Thanks.
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited January 2010
    For the non SDA lines, I would rank the ones I have as the Mon 7B, RTA 11, then Mon 10B. The Mon 7B is just sweet and spot on for kicking back and listening to music.


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  • Loud &amp; Clear
    Loud &amp; Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited January 2010
    Excluding SDAs, I'd go with ...

    1) RTA 12B
    2) Monitor 10
    3) RT 55i

    I've heard most of the vintage monitor series, and most of the RT(i) series speakers.

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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2010
    One more vote for monitor 7B's with Peerless. It keeps amazing me that a speaker 30 years old that can be had for $100 sounds so good in a 2 channel rig. Tonal accuracy and imaging are to die for.
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  • Bubinga99
    Bubinga99 Posts: 283
    edited January 2010
    Just to clarify, I didn't want to exclude SDA's, just the SRS-SDA's (which would include all the TL models)

    Thanks for the replies.
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited January 2010
    and for a smaller room/rig the 5a's are great,to me they are like "mini" sda's.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2010
    Monitor 7's, RTA11's, LSI 15's(properly amped and modded), and of coarse the SDA's. You need to tell us what size room, and what kinda amplification you are using. Are you willing to upgrade gear? IMHO you can't go wrong with any of the vintage Polk's or the LSI's.
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  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited January 2010
    Monitor 11 RTA circa '82 is my favorite Polk, followed by the 7A with fresh caps, and the same with the M10 and M12's with Sonicaps in them. I've listened to and owned most all the old Polk monitors.
    I've also owned some of the RT and RTi line but the old monitors and sda seem best for two channel as far as I'm concerned.
    Harry
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    I'll agree with Harry.

    RTA11Ts are my favorites so far that i've spent time with.

    Then Monitor 7Cs
    Then VS-25s
    Then R50s
    Then Monitor 5jr
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited January 2010
    Top 3 minus SDA's that i own(d)

    RTA11T's
    10A's w/ Peerless
    7C's

    Pauly
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  • fafner
    fafner Posts: 115
    edited January 2010
    How are Montor 7's better than 10's. There is a pair of 7's in my area for $150.

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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    fafner wrote: »
    How are Montor 7's better than 10's. There is a pair of 7's in my area for $150.

    fafner

    Typically not as bloated on the low end. It's all personal preference. Some like 7s better, some like 10s.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    edited January 2010
    ^Define 'bloated'. Maybe it's my ears, but the bottom end on my 10's sounds just as clear and punchy as I want.
    --Gary--
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited January 2010
    The M7 is much more coherent.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    halo71 wrote: »
    ^Define 'bloated'. Maybe it's my ears, but the bottom end on my 10's sounds just as clear and punchy as I want.

    I'm not the best person to ask, honestly, because i find the 7s bloated anyways. Nasty mid-bass hump. At least to my ears, you know. ;) Love them for rock, though. :D

    But bloated =! unclear or muddy to me. Just overemphasis on the low end of it's response curve.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited January 2010
    It really depends on room size and gear.

    For a larger room and full range speaker I'd vote for RTA-11's

    For a medium room Monitor 7

    For a smaller room Monitor 5

    My monitor 5's in my office are freaking fantastic. They are not stock so that does help especially getting rid of the sl2000 tweeter.

    H9
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited January 2010
    fafner wrote: »
    How are Montor 7's better than 10's. There is a pair of 7's in my area for $150.

    fafner

    7's tend to be a little easier on the ears as you get more low end with the 10's

    About the only diff that i have personally heard. But i then again i like the low end at moderate levels.

    Pauly
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited January 2010
    fafner wrote: »
    How are Montor 7's better than 10's. There is a pair of 7's in my area for $150.

    fafner

    10's don't image as well, sort of a "smeared" midrange because of the side by side drivers. They can be a bit bloated in the bass, some prefer a more bloated bass, some don't. Many who primarily listen to rock like this speaker a lot. Not as accurate or coherent for Jazz, Vocal, Acoustic, Classical, etc. as the M7 or M5. The M5 can be a little short on bass in a large room.

    H9

    P.s. M10's would be last on my list of "classic" Polks.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited January 2010
    This thread makes me regret selling my RTA 11T's. Hopefully Gary, the new owner, is enjoying them.

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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    edited January 2010
    I'm not the best person to ask, honestly, because i find the 7s bloated anyways. Nasty mid-bass hump. At least to my ears, you know. ;) Love them for rock, though. :D

    But bloated =! unclear or muddy to me. Just overemphasis on the low end of it's response curve.

    That is interesting. Cause I have not really noticed this with my 10's. I mean, of course I have not had really even what most would call decent speakers over the years until I got my 10's. But I love the mid to upper end on them. My Dad has DefTech Bp3000's and I drool over them when I hear 'em. I guess those are the best I have listened to in recent years. But I am lovin' my 10's. I guess I finally know what the term 'soundstage' means after all these years! Damn what a difference!

    EDIT: Also my 10's are the first set of speakers I have ever owned that I njoyed listening to with my sub cut off completely.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    ^I'm not surprised, really. Like i said, it's more of a preference thing. I tend to like the smoothest response curve i can possibly get out of my speakers. The 7s didn't sound bad to me by any stretch, they were REALLY fun to listen to, but they just weren't all there for me personally for critical listening. My smaller Esprits went lower, didn't drop off as fast, and don't have that midbass pounding that the 7s seemed to have to my ears.

    Of course, i'm comparing speakers that were made probably 20 years apart, so that's not a fair comparison, but it's what i was trying to decide between at the time.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2010
    "I guess I finally know what the term 'soundstage' means after all these years! Damn what a difference!"

    Just wait til you get some SDAs, soundstage like you won't believe!!:D
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    Soundstage is a weird term to me... i don't like knowing where my soundstage begins and ends. Basically, if i can't tell there IS one, i'm happy. If that makes sense at all. Looks really stupid on my screen. ;)

    The 7s, i could tell just how far it extended. Imaging was good within that space, but the space wasn't big enough for me.

    I like hearing stuff that sounds like it's coming from the kitchen.

    That all said, different gear, different gear, different rooms, and all that jazz. :D
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2010
    Monitor 7/10 with Peerless are not the same as Monitor 7/10 with SL2000's. Big difference. IMO the Peerless are a whole lot better (smoother, and provide better imaging), but I'm biased.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited January 2010
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Monitor 7/10 with Peerless are not the same as Monitor 7/10 with SL2000's. Big difference. IMO the Peerless are a whole lot better (smoother, and provide better imaging), but I'm biased.

    Peerless trumphs sl2000 everytime.

    RD0's trumph sl2000 everytime

    Peerless vs. RD0's...........some like one, some like the other but the RD0's have a similar characteristic to the Peerless.

    Bottom line.........if you have old Monitors with sl2000 get the RD0's.

    H9
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited January 2010
    Nobody ever mentions the LS50/90's. I love my 90's.
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    edited January 2010
    gdb wrote: »
    "I guess I finally know what the term 'soundstage' means after all these years! Damn what a difference!"

    Just wait til you get some SDAs, soundstage like you won't believe!!:D

    Well when and if my budget allows...SDA's are on the list! I already told the wife that next year when I turn 40 and have a midlife crisis that a pair of SDA's were on the list! :p

    But right now? Times are tough as hell. When you get laid off from a $50K a year job, unemployed 7 months, take a job paying around $23k a year. And still have the tastes that you did before. Somethings gotta wait. lol
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  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited January 2010
    vc69 wrote: »
    Nobody ever mentions the LS50/90's. I love my 90's.

    I have both, as well. First rate speakers for both HT and 2 channel.

    [edit] I should add that I currently have TC, RC, and AB series in walls, M3's, 2 CS-400s, a CSi-40, and SDA CRS+'s. I have had monitor 7's and some others, too. The LS-50 and 90's hold their own against any of them.
  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited January 2010
    vc69 wrote: »
    Nobody ever mentions the LS50/90's. I love my 90's.

    Majority Rulez :D:p;)

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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2010
    halo71 wrote: »
    Well when and if my budget allows...SDA's are on the list! I already told the wife that next year when I turn 40 and have a midlife crisis that a pair of SDA's were on the list! :p

    But right now? Times are tough as hell. When you get laid off from a $50K a year job, unemployed 7 months, take a job paying around $23k a year. And still have the tastes that you did before. Somethings gotta wait. lol

    I got my first pair for $167.00 off ebay with local pick up. (studio style2Bs) Eating Ramen noodles for a week should get you enough $$ for some SDAs!:D
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    edited January 2010
    ^ I think I am good for the time being. I could always sell a guitar/amp or two to fund some SDA I suppose.
    --Gary--
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