Bought My first TT today and Need Help!

nikolas812
nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
edited January 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
Don't know if I did good or not yet. But a TT popped up on my local Craigslist finally. So I bought. But I don't yet know if it works or how to work it..

I don't have a phono pre amp. So I have no way to hook it up yet. All I know is that is spins when plugged in and turned on.

There is a metal cap with what looks like thin fishing line attached to it. I don't know where this goes. The is also a metal rod that looks like it should be attached to the tonearm some how??? And does the needle look OK?


Can anybody help me out. Heres some pics. If you need more I can take them.


I know this is pretty bland. But I'm pretty ignorant on the subject.. If you need more information or pics. Just ask and tell me what you need to know from me about it...

Its a Music Hall MMF-5 with a Goldring Cart 1012GX. Is this good? What is a TT like this worth in working condition?


TIA for any help..


Nik


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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2010
    That weight is for anti skate you need to look for a manual, try google or vinylengine.com
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited January 2010
    I'll start looking now.



    Nik
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    Seems it wasn't real cheap new, now was it? :p
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    Nick, the anti skate hangs on that little cylindrical piece of metal with the three notches sticking out between the arm and counterbalnce wieght. Depending on your cartridge weight, the little loop at the end of the string will connect to one of the three notches. Then, the remainder of the string hangs over the metal hook which suspends the antiskate weight.
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited January 2010
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Nick, the anti skate hangs on that little clyndrical piece of metal with the three notches. Depending on your cartridge weight, the little loop at the end of the string will connect to one of the three notches. Then, the remainder of the string hangs over the metal hook which suspend the cylindrical weight.



    I actually just figured that out on my own.


    I have the player hooked with no phono stage to my tube amp. And with it turned all the way up. I get music.

    So I think the player probably works...


    I'm stoked. I've wanted a table FOR EVER!.

    Just need a pre now..




    Nik
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    nikolas812 wrote: »
    I actually just figured that out on my own.


    I have the player hooked with no phono stage to my tube amp. And with it turned all the way up. I get music.

    So I think the player probably works...


    I'm stoked. I've wanted a table FOR EVER!.

    Just need a pre now..



    Nik

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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited January 2010
    I can't afford it. At least not for a while


    I think I'm gonna get a Cambridge Audio 540p to get me going.




    Nik
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2010
    The CA 540p is a good inexpensive phono pre, as well as any of the Pro-ject phono box's. The Jolida is a good one, however there's some good competition at it's price point depending on what the rest of your system is.
    DKG999
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited January 2010
    That should sound pretty good. I wouldn't use it on a glass table although I'm guessing you just have it sitting there for the pic. Congrats! Maybe you have an old receiver with a phono pre in it sitting around to give it a try?
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited January 2010
    madmax wrote: »
    That should sound pretty good. I wouldn't use it on a glass table although I'm guessing you just have it sitting there for the pic. Congrats! Maybe you have an old receiver with a phono pre in it sitting around to give it a try?



    Nope. I was hoping my theater Receiver would have one. But It doesn't.
    Seems I am dead in the water for a few days.


    So. Does anybody know what this table is worth? Just wondering if i did good or not.


    And yes it was just sitting there for the pic...


    Nik
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited January 2010
    Thats a nice looking TT Nik.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2010
    Is it a MMF-5 or 5.1? I have the MMF 5.1 in one of my systems, good table. It's basically made by Pro-ject and has the Pro-ject 7C arm on it. I'm not sure what arm(s) they used on the 5?
    DKG999
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited January 2010
    Mmf-5

    not 5.1

    the original version.



    Nik
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited January 2010
    Found this on Agon. http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl_sold.pl?anlgtabl&1267398242
    madmax
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    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited January 2010
    Interesting. Thats exactly what I have minus the Piano black finish.. I paid a little less than that for mine.






    Nik
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    Great table... A must have LP is Pink Floyd "ECHOES". I just picked the 4lp box set for a buck at Goodwill. It was UNOPENED. Until about an hour ago that is:D.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited January 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Great table... A must have LP is Pink Floyd "ECHOES". I just picked the 4lp box set for a buck at Goodwill. It was UNOPENED. Until about an hour ago that is:D.

    your Goodwill has much better vinyl prices that the ones here do. IF that same 4 lp box set was at my GW it would easly be between $4 to $9.
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited January 2010
    Ive been looking for a good phono pre for a great deal and just found a parasound zphono at a great price---NEW..Link>>http://www.gcaudio.com/cgi-bin/store/showProduct.cgi?id=72

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  • Montoya
    Montoya Posts: 506
    edited January 2010
    It's a good table however I'm not a big fan of the Goldring cart it comes with. The cart sounds really great but with the tonearm correctly aligned the cart sits extremely low. Some records don't play nice because of the lowrider cartridge.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited January 2010
    Montoya wrote: »
    It's a good table however I'm not a big fan of the Goldring cart it comes with. The cart sounds really great but with the tonearm correctly aligned the cart sits extremely low. Some records don't play nice because of the lowrider cartridge.

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    Nik, Ingo here mentions a very common complain. Pickup a Blue Special when you get the cash.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    I like my Denon DL-160...
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited January 2010
    That a good, solid, nice sounding TT. Congrats. You may want to consider replacing the mat if it is the felt one.
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited January 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    I like my Denon DL-160...

    .....


    Nik
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  • Montoya
    Montoya Posts: 506
    edited January 2010
    The blue special and the denon are good cartridge but if I had to choose it would be the blue.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2010
    Is rubber better than felt?
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited January 2010
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    That a good, solid, nice sounding TT. Congrats. You may want to consider replacing the mat if it is the felt one.

    What would I change it to?

    I believe it is felt..





    Nik
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2010
    Just replacing, or i believe you can change it to cork?

    Felt compacts over time, and wears out. (generally, don't know if that applies to turntables much)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited January 2010
    The Denon DL-160 is the cartridge I run on my Yammy PX-3 The Blue point Evo III will be my next.
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2010
    Get a Herbies TT mat. Best bang for the buck IMHO. Toss the felt, it just collects dust.
    DKG999
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  • nikolas812
    nikolas812 Posts: 2,915
    edited January 2010
    I'm going to get her going before I even consider any upgrades. I'm hoping I'll be satisfied with her just the way she is.... Gosh dang I can't wait to get it going! I've wanted to spin some vinyl for SOoo long now.



    Nik
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