Blueray player

Polk user
Polk user Posts: 311
edited December 2009 in The Clubhouse
Looking for a Blue Ray player. Any advice?
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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited December 2009
    If you are a gamer tough to bet the PS3. They give it good reviews. I bought a Pio blu ray player to match my Elite. Didn't notice any difference.

    Worth a look if you like games.
  • KASR
    KASR Posts: 450
    edited December 2009
  • emoxley
    emoxley Posts: 205
    edited December 2009
    If you like sacd and dvd-audio, as well as BD movies, the Oppo BDP-83 is a must.
    Excellent player of all those formats. Considered to be one of the best, if not the best, at upscaling regular dvds too. http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83/
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  • Polk user
    Polk user Posts: 311
    edited December 2009
    I'm not much of a gamer. In fact I have never played xbox, wii or PS. Thats not to say I couldn't get addicted to them. I have a regular Oppo connected to my 65 inch RPTV. Will I notice a big difference from the upscaled DVD to the Blu Ray on a RPTV?
  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited December 2009
    Polk user wrote: »
    I'm not much of a gamer. In fact I have never played xbox, wii or PS. Thats not to say I couldn't get addicted to them. I have a regular Oppo connected to my 65 inch RPTV. Will I notice a big difference from the upscaled DVD to the Blu Ray on a RPTV?
    Unless your TV is capable of 1080p probally not a huge difference simply because the Oppo you have is allready very good at upscaling to 1080i there will of course be some difference because you would be displaying true 1080i versus an upscaled image converted from a 480p signal.




    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
  • Polk user
    Polk user Posts: 311
    edited December 2009
    snow wrote: »
    Unless your TV is capable of 1080p probally not a huge difference simply because the Oppo you have is allready very good at upscaling to 1080i there will of course be some difference because you would be displaying true 1080i versus an upscaled image converted from a 480p signal.




    REGARDS SNOW


    The TV is a Hitachi 65T500. It is ISF calibrated but only 1080i. I can't complain about the picture but I figured it's time to have a Blu Ray player in the house. Maybe I'll pick up a small 40" 1080P TV for the living room and hook up a Blu Ray to it. But then I will need some surround sound!!!!!!!!!
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited December 2009
    Once you go Blu-ray even upscaled dvds will look like crap, there's just no comparison so don't even think a 480p dvd upscaled will come close to that of a 1080p Blu-ray no matter the machine.

    I have a PS3, it's a tank, being that it's built for gaming (which is much more demanding then Blu-ray playback) it has yet to even have a hick-up. Fantastic machine.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited December 2009
    Well mastered SD DVD's are anything but "crap" when upscaled by my BDP-83.

    Maybe you should ditch that P(0)S3 ;)
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited December 2009
    snow wrote: »
    Unless your TV is capable of 1080p probally not a huge difference simply because the Oppo you have is allready very good at upscaling to 1080i there will of course be some difference because you would be displaying true 1080i versus an upscaled image converted from a 480p signal.


    I have to majorly disagree with this. My TV, Hitachi 57” digital monitor, only goes to 1080i. Prior to getting the Oppo BD83 I had the Sony 9100ES which does an outstanding job of upconverting to 1080i. After I got the Oppo I saw that it too does an outstanding job of upconverting to 1080i. However, there is no comparison at all between upconverted 1080i and true HD BR 1080i. The difference is night and day in picture quality. However, going from HD 1080i to HD 1080p will only yield a marginal improvement.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited December 2009
    The Samsung, LG,Sony & Insignia brands all have models that allow you to view movies direct from Netflix. Some require an ethernet connection or a dongle device, others can receive the feed wirelessly(sp?) The LG BD-390 is the one I think I'll end up getting and it has very good reviews and does Nflix wirelessly.PS3 & Playstation work too.:)

    http://http://www.netflix.com/NetflixReadyDevices?lnkce=nrd-otab
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited December 2009
    I agree with Bluefox, to an extent...I use a PS3 on a 1080i RPTV Toshiba--similar to the Hitachi in picture quality and it does a decent job upconverting DVDs--as good as most of what I've seen so far. But DVDs don't hold a candle to Blu-ray at 1080i--

    My son has a Samsung 1080p LCD that I recommended...and a PS3. The main difference I see between my set and his is sharpness--but as far as TRUE color is concerned my picture is better...it's not overly saturated cartoon color that's NEON-like on the blazing LCDs...IMO the RPTV does better color than most LCDs!

    And LCDs have a sharper more focused image due to the 1080p resolution...but it's not a blow me away difference!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited December 2009
    I am with cnh on this one. I have a PS3 and a DLP (LCoS) Sony and I am amazed at the picture to this day, almost 4 years after I bought it. I have no intention of getting an LCD or Plasma anytime soon and as a matter of fact I just got a new bulb for my TV and new bulb=new TV with these sets. As long as they continue to make bulbs for my TV, I will keep buying new ones and enjoying my TV until I have no choice but to "upgrade" it.

    -Jeff
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    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


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    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited December 2009
    I am with cnh on this one. I have a PS3 and a DLP (LCoS) Sony and I am amazed at the picture to this day, almost 4 years after I bought it.


    Slight correction. Sony did not make a DLP LCoS TV. Their implementation of LCoS was called SXRD, and while it was a RPTV it did not use DLP. Agreed it was a great TV. I was ready to buy the 72" version when they killed it, which in my mind was a big mistake. Similar to Pioneer stopping the Kuro.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • Polk user
    Polk user Posts: 311
    edited December 2009
    So bottom line is that a Blu Ray connected thru a HDMI/DVI cable hooked up to a RPTV will have a much better picture than an upconverted DVD player connected thru component cables to the same TV?
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited December 2009
    Polk user wrote: »
    So bottom line is that a Blu Ray connected thru a HDMI/DVI cable hooked up to a RPTV will have a much better picture than an upconverted DVD player connected thru component cables to the same TV?

    Yes. And don't forget the tremendous improvement in sound quality when using BR lossless. I could argue the sound alone is worth the BR plunge, even if all I could get was an upconverted picture. Getting both is a no-brainer.

    One point I did not mention in regard to my Hitachi TV is I had it calibrated to ISF specs a couple of years ago, so it was primed for HD when I switched to BR. As cnh mentioned the colors are much more lifelike on the RPTV than the cartoonish colors on flat screens. Although they just might be out of spec color wise.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited December 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    Well mastered SD DVD's are anything but "crap" when upscaled by my BDP-83.

    Maybe you should ditch that P(0)S3 ;)

    On my 96" screen, upscaled via my PS3, HD-DVD A1 or Sammy 1500, they do indeed look like "crap", I won't watch dvd anymore, at least not in my theater, it's just too painful.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited December 2009
    KASR wrote: »
    If you not interested in the gaming, the Panasonic bdp60 and 80 are worth a look!

    Agreed, the Pany player are very good, but the best is the Oppo player.
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  • Polk user
    Polk user Posts: 311
    edited December 2009
    danz1906 wrote: »
    Agreed, the Pany player are very good, but the best is the Oppo player.

    What made the Oppos good was the price. Seems like Oppo realized they could double their prices, so they did.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited December 2009
    Polk user wrote: »
    What made the Oppos good was the price. Seems like Oppo realized they could double their prices, so they did.

    They redid the analog section to make it a better CD/SACD player. Whether it works or not I do not know. The original $499 BD83 is still for sale for those who need a great BR player.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited December 2009
    Ron-P wrote: »
    On my 96" screen, upscaled via my PS3, HD-DVD A1 or Sammy 1500, they do indeed look like "crap", I won't watch dvd anymore, at least not in my theater, it's just too painful.

    LoL... yeah. I have a 52" LCD. I can certainly understand your point. :cool:
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited December 2009
    I think I am gonna splurge on the Oppo BD83... my Pioneer is on the fritz and only plays CD's now... I have the PS3, but it doesn't play lossless audio for me (I have the older 3805 Denon) and need 7.1 analog sound...

    Let us know what you get... I am ready for HD Audio :)
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,335
    edited December 2009
    gdb wrote: »
    The Samsung, LG,Sony & Insignia brands all have models that allow you to view movies direct from Netflix. Some require an ethernet connection or a dongle device, others can receive the feed wirelessly(sp?) The LG BD-390 is the one I think I'll end up getting and it has very good reviews and does Nflix wirelessly.PS3 & Playstation work too.:)

    http://http://www.netflix.com/NetflixReadyDevices?lnkce=nrd-otab

    I just bought the LG BD-390 and I can tell you that it is very nice!
    Carl

  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited December 2009
    I might have to get me one of those pannys. I have some blue rays but not alot and i have no need the high price tag of the oppo.
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  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited December 2009
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Slight correction. Sony did not make a DLP LCoS TV. Their implementation of LCoS was called SXRD, and while it was a RPTV it did not use DLP. Agreed it was a great TV. I was ready to buy the 72" version when they killed it, which in my mind was a big mistake. Similar to Pioneer stopping the Kuro.

    Nitpicker, lol. While it may not be an "actual" DLP I am still in love with it. Thanks for the correction, atleast I have it right in my sig.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D
  • Polk user
    Polk user Posts: 311
    edited December 2009
    Picked up a panny for $99. I also got this cable to make it sound better....



    http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/606356.html
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited December 2009
    Ha...ha...that's a good one....a 100 dollar BDP and a 1000 dollar HDMI cable ..

    I think we can all agree that HDMI is one of the few cables that you don't need to spend a fortune on! 10-20 dollars will do you...even less.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited December 2009
    Polk user wrote: »
    Picked up a panny for $99. I also got this cable to make it sound better....



    http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/606356.html

    where did you grab your panny?
    Living Room Rig:D
    Rotel RSP-1069/Rotel RMB-1095/Rotel-1072/Polk lsI15's W/modded xoverW/DBsubs/Polk LsiC/lsI7's/Klipsch sub-12"the weak link"/DLP Mitsubishi 65"
    Xbox360/PS3/WII
    M.Br. setup:)
    Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
    Computer Rig:
    Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
    Headphones-Ultrasone-HFI780's w/LittleDot MK Vamp Portables Panasonic HJE-900's
  • Libertyc
    Libertyc Posts: 915
    edited December 2009
    Walmart has a $78 Magnavox Blu ray player. Is it a POS or a deal.
    Link: http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11319406
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited December 2009
    That's hard to say...Magnavox is a pretty cheap quality DVD...And probably BDP....don't know how long that would last and I can't load the site because I'm not in the U.S. at the moment to see it.

    But I'd say for 79 bucks it should probably give you a better picture than any DVD player with a Blu-ray in there! If you want to go cheap and you don't have a player why not!

    Another question is does it pass or decode HD sound? And what kind of outputs does it have on the back!

    What can your AVR handle...what do you need to hook this up to your AVR...in other words--does the Mag...pass tru-HD through HDMI to an AVR that can decode it or does it have internal decoders or does it NOT do HD-sound at all?

    Those may be important questions for you to think about...it goes without saying that it probably has no ethernet port to support internet access features on new blu-rays.

    But hey...my first DVD player was an APEX--remember those....the first sub 100 dollar player period...I still use that in my bedroom system....79 dollars and many many years of service!!


    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • wutadumsn23
    wutadumsn23 Posts: 3,702
    edited December 2009
    cnh wrote: »
    Ha...ha...that's a good one....a 100 dollar BDP and a 1000 dollar HDMI cable ..

    I think we can all agree that HDMI is one of the few cables that you don't need to spend a fortune on! 10-20 dollars will do you...even less.

    cnh


    This is very true. I have a few cheapo cables that work just as well as my $80 one. Man was I dumb 4 years ago, lol.

    -Jeff
    HT Rig
    Receiver- Onkyo TX-SR806
    Mains- Polk Audio Monitor 70
    Center- Polk Audio CS2
    Surrounds- Polk Audio TSi 500's :D
    Sub- Polk Audio PSW125
    Retired- Polk Audio Monitor 40's
    T.V.- 60" Sony SXRD KDS-60A2000 LCoS
    Blu-Ray- 80 GB PS3


    2 CH rig (in progress)
    Polk Audio Monitor 10A's :cool:

    It's not that I'm insensitive, I just don't care.. :D