SVS, HSU, Velodyne ?

bms

spnplgr wrote: »

I did it. Ordered the SVS PC12-NSD this afternoon. That cylinder ships tomorrow.

Wow, congrats. Please report back...

KASR

dorokusai wrote: »

I wouldn't lose any sleep over that off brand. If you want a real Velodyne, buy one.

??? Chrysalis Acoustics is a subsidary of Velodyne - I'm a bargain hunter and when it comes to bang for buck the Chrysalis (by Velodyne) sounded great when I auditioned them ...and isn't that best test of them all: what sounds good to you?

Great little review on the bass matrix here: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/subwoofers/photon-8-subwoofer

KASR

spnplgr wrote: »

I did it. Ordered the SVS PC12-NSD this afternoon. That cylinder ships tomorrow.

Post up pics of the setup when you get it all up and running and let us know what you think! Congrats!

dorokusai

KASR wrote: »

??? Chrysalis Acoustics is a subsidary of Velodyne - I'm a bargain hunter and when it comes to bang for buck the Chrysalis (by Velodyne) sounded great when I auditioned them ...and isn't that best test of them all: what sounds good to you?

Great little review on the bass matrix here: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/subwoofers/photon-8-subwoofer

That's true but why would someone buy that over an actual Velodyne? They manufacture subwoofers with their actual name on it and cover almost every price point. It's like buying an Outlaw subwoofer....instead of an HSU. Hey, go for it but no thanks.

Weren't you trying to sell one of those same subwoofers recently?

KASR

dorokusai wrote: »

That's true but why would someone buy that over an actual Velodyne? They manufacture subwoofers with their actual name on it and cover almost every price point. It's like buying an Outlaw subwoofer....instead of an HSU. Hey, go for it but no thanks.

Weren't you trying to sell one of those same subwoofers recently?

-$200 price-tag from the comparable Velodyne might prompt some to action...or atleast to pull the trigger on a good sounding sub manufactured from the same vendor. I admit, that at first I was skeptical - then I heard it.

I had one of the starfire 10's on top of the Photon that I'm using. Both are great performers.

dorokusai

That's true...the price is alot different. I'd have to hear one KASR, so I'll reel back my rush to judgement That's only fair.

KASR

dorokusai wrote: »

That's true...the price is alot different. I'd have to hear one KASR, so I'll reel back my rush to judgement That's only fair.

Maybe I can karma pass one your way sometime soon! Now that would be a kick! But you'd have to do a karma-worthy review!

dorokusai

Ha! I don't do reviews but I appreciate the sentiment.

jax3822

I have owned a Hsu stf-2 and a velodyne Dps-10, both good subs. A thing to consider is sub design, specifically where they are ported. My sub placement was in a corner with a low ceiling and it caused irregualarites in bass response in different locations in the room. The Hus was a nice sub, looked a little cheap. The Velodyne looked great and had a low front port which worked well in my room.

If price in an object, I highly reccomend getting an Energy ESW-V8 from World wide stereo on ebay for 225 dollars and free shipping. I had one of those as well and it is a fantastic tight little sub, looks great, hits hard and was originally $550 dollars new.

Make sure it is the V-8 model not the esw-8, a lot cheaper model.

Otherwise, you will not go wrong with a HSU or and SVS, be careful with Velodyne as their cheaper subs are as good as their more expensive ones.

spnplgr

After much coffee, continued stoking of oak in my Jotul F118 wood stove, and listening and watching some movies, here is a partial appraisal of my new PC12-NSD sub. Later on I will include some pictures of my setup. Awesome. Thats all I can say. I'm having a little trouble with my A/V receiver and waiting on some warranty stuff with it, so I can't give complete details about the system yet due to that problem. However, the sub part I'm really thrilled about. Last night the wife and I watched "Pearl Harbor" in blu-ray. The bass just makes everything. I have the SVS in the corner, as you know it is downfiring. Since my HT is sideways in my room, my soundstage is like 20 ft wide and only 13 ft deep, with the right side of family room totally open to dining and kitchen area. You absolutely cannot tell where any bass is coming from. It's just all over. When I did my calibration with the Radio Shack sound level meter, I set the speakers at about 75 db at a certain master volume setting, and I set the SVS at about 78 db +/- 1db at the same master reference level. That gave me a little more bass, so when the volume is set lower to please the wife, I still have good bass. The bass is clear, flat, and very detailed. I didn't check for noise outside (worrying about neighbors), but who cares about that during a Minn snow storm. We now have to watch all our movies again to hear the .1 effects. I am totally satisfied so far with this sub. The sub is huge, (it looks scary), but is also good looking I think. The footprint is only 16 1/2". It's 3 ft tall. I personally think that the downfired woofer helps to elliminate any sense of directional bass. That might be all in my head, but like I said, the bass is everywhere. I'm definitely glad I got the 12" and the cylinder model. Definitely worth spending the extra money. Shipping was only 2 days. I'll let the group know more about music recordings after I get my A/V problem solved. As of now I am extremely satisfied with this sub. Sorry I got longwinded. Later.

Mike Reeter

Well,It sounds like a very,merry x-mas at your place...I also have an SVS cylinder style sub...It is the benchmark of our HT rig.

Corner loaded is what they like,you have it set-up perfectly...n'joy your new toy.

ScudDawg

SVS makes insane subs

ken brydson

spnplgr wrote: »

After much coffee, continued stoking of oak in my Jotul F118 wood stove, and listening and watching some movies, here is a partial appraisal of my new PC12-NSD sub. Later on I will include some pictures of my setup. Awesome. Thats all I can say. I'm having a little trouble with my A/V receiver and waiting on some warranty stuff with it, so I can't give complete details about the system yet due to that problem. However, the sub part I'm really thrilled about. Last night the wife and I watched "Pearl Harbor" in blu-ray. The bass just makes everything. I have the SVS in the corner, as you know it is downfiring. Since my HT is sideways in my room, my soundstage is like 20 ft wide and only 13 ft deep, with the right side of family room totally open to dining and kitchen area. You absolutely cannot tell where any bass is coming from. It's just all over. When I did my calibration with the Radio Shack sound level meter, I set the speakers at about 75 db at a certain master volume setting, and I set the SVS at about 78 db +/- 1db at the same master reference level. That gave me a little more bass, so when the volume is set lower to please the wife, I still have good bass. The bass is clear, flat, and very detailed. I didn't check for noise outside (worrying about neighbors), but who cares about that during a Minn snow storm. We now have to watch all our movies again to hear the .1 effects. I am totally satisfied so far with this sub. The sub is huge, (it looks scary), but is also good looking I think. The footprint is only 16 1/2". It's 3 ft tall. I personally think that the downfired woofer helps to elliminate any sense of directional bass. That might be all in my head, but like I said, the bass is everywhere. I'm definitely glad I got the 12" and the cylinder model. Definitely worth spending the extra money. Shipping was only 2 days. I'll let the group know more about music recordings after I get my A/V problem solved. As of now I am extremely satisfied with this sub. Sorry I got longwinded. Later.

+1. Small footprint. Huge LFE. SVS 23-31PC+ here...

bms

It sounds as if you made a good decision. Enjoy watching all of your movies over again. My son & I lust watched the new Star Trek film last night - wow!

Not sure if you're into "classical" music but when you get to music, try Saint-Saens "Organ" Symphony (#3), 4th mvt. - it is indeed impressive.

Happy New Year!

digitalvideo

Great professional shootout test of subs in the link below -

http://www.tweakcityaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11

spnplgr

bms wrote: »

It sounds as if you made a good decision. Enjoy watching all of your movies over again. My son & I lust watched the new Star Trek film last night - wow!

Not sure if you're into "classical" music but when you get to music, try Saint-Saens "Organ" Symphony (#3), 4th mvt. - it is indeed impressive.

Happy New Year!

Thanks for reference bms. I like classical. Waiting on a new NAD reciever from warranty. Still enjoying that sub and movies.

spnplgr

bms
Hi again, I'm trying to find this music. I don't understand a lot about how the movements are and so forth. If you could explain this a alittle I would appreciate it a lot. Is the 4th movement just a small part of symphony # 3, or is it a complete seperate work.I only have CD player not phone. thanks for any thing you can help out with.

bms wrote: »

It sounds as if you made a good decision. Enjoy watching all of your movies over again. My son & I lust watched the new Star Trek film last night - wow!

Not sure if you're into "classical" music but when you get to music, try Saint-Saens "Organ" Symphony (#3), 4th mvt. - it is indeed impressive.

Happy New Year!

over50

I found this very helpful in buying my new subwoofer.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1313176

cdn5003

Just to add another option maybe look at some of the Elemental Designs subwoofer lineup. I have been very pleased with my A2-300, it has easily outperformed my Velodyne DLS 3750 for movies and the Velodyne is almost twice as expensive retail.

If you want tight bass it would probably be wise to go with a sealed model. Check out the A5s-300, the build quality is very good but appearance isn't its strongest point. HSU and SVS build more beautiful monsters than eD. I think eD offers great price/performance value with all of their subs.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_info.php?t=1&products_id=681

PSOVLSK

He bought an SVS in Dec. of '09. He's asking for help understanding classical music.

http://classicalmusic.about.com/od/symphonyfaq/f/symovement.htm

Syndil

spnplgr wrote: »

bms
Hi again, I'm trying to find this music. I don't understand a lot about how the movements are and so forth. If you could explain this a alittle I would appreciate it a lot. Is the 4th movement just a small part of symphony # 3, or is it a complete seperate work.I only have CD player not phone. thanks for any thing you can help out with.

Movements are parts of the symphony. To put it in more modern terms, they are comparable to tracks in an album. If a particular movement from a symphony is popular, you may be able to find a compilation album that contains just the popular movements from various symphonies--kind of like a greatest hits album--but if you buy an album that contains the symphony, it will of course include all the movements.

There are times when it is appropriate to listen to only certain movements from a symphony, like when they are used in a soundtrack or some other means of providing color or punctuation to something else (fireworks show, etc.). But I feel that one should not make a habit of listening to just the favorite or most popular movements from symphonies. The movements of a symphony are designed to compliment one another to provide a complete emotional experience. If you listen to only the fast, bombastic movements all the time, for example, it can become tiring. It's the equivalent of only watching the fight scene from a particular movie. Sure it's the most exciting part, but without the context of the rest of the movie, it's just a fight scene.

Saint Saens is very well known for his use of organ in much of his music, not just the so-called "Organ Symphony", #3. It might be helpful to know that the names given to symphonies are often nicknames given by critics of the time the work was first produced. Saint Saens did not in fact name his third symphony the Organ Symphony, as it is in fact not really an organ symphony, but a symphony for orchestra with organ, which is exactly how Saens described it. But if you like his third symphony, by all means check out the rest of his works, which will also likely give your sub a workout.

My favorite composer for really, deep-down bone-rattling organ is Respighi, particularly his Fountains of Rome and Pines of Rome. The organ in these pieces is tasked to play some ridiculously low notes at low volumes, which I believe is the most difficult task for a sub.

Devlon

JYAJoe wrote: »

http://www.frys.com/search?search_type=regular&sqxts=1&query_string=polk&cat=0&submit.x=17&submit.y=10

Great deal on the micro pro but will not like it for music.

I own some micropro's and velo's. I'm not sure you have ever heard a micropro sub with a comment like that. See my comments about the Micropro4000 in the user comment section of this sub woofer. I a professional musician, done studio work, mixed sound in live venues, etc. The Micropro's are some of the most musical subs I've ever heard. They are a totally different animal for Polk.

spnplgr

Syndil wrote: »

Movements are parts of the symphony. To put it in more modern terms, they are comparable to tracks in an album. If a particular movement from a symphony is popular, you may be able to find a compilation album that contains just the popular movements from various symphonies--kind of like a greatest hits album--but if you buy an album that contains the symphony, it will of course include all the movements.

There are times when it is appropriate to listen to only certain movements from a symphony, like when they are used in a soundtrack or some other means of providing color or punctuation to something else (fireworks show, etc.). But I feel that one should not make a habit of listening to just the favorite or most popular movements from symphonies. The movements of a symphony are designed to compliment one another to provide a complete emotional experience. If you listen to only the fast, bombastic movements all the time, for example, it can become tiring. It's the equivalent of only watching the fight scene from a particular movie. Sure it's the most exciting part, but without the context of the rest of the movie, it's just a fight scene.

Saint Saens is very well known for his use of organ in much of his music, not just the so-called "Organ Symphony", #3. It might be helpful to know that the names given to symphonies are often nicknames given by critics of the time the work was first produced. Saint Saens did not in fact name his third symphony the Organ Symphony, as it is in fact not really an organ symphony, but a symphony for orchestra with organ, which is exactly how Saens described it. But if you like his third symphony, by all means check out the rest of his works, which will also likely give your sub a workout.

My favorite composer for really, deep-down bone-rattling organ is Respighi, particularly his Fountains of Rome and Pines of Rome. The organ in these pieces is tasked to play some ridiculously low notes at low volumes, which I believe is the most difficult task for a sub.

Thank you very much for the great explanation. Really clears a lot up. Time to purchase some CD's now. For someone who enjoys classical music but doesn't really understand it, you explained it perfectly.

Syndil

You are very welcome, sir. Glad I could help.

emy

Just to add another option maybe look at some of the Elemental Designs subwoofer lineup