SVS, HSU, Velodyne ?

spnplgr
spnplgr Posts: 33
Hi Group,

My current setup is RTi8's front, CSi5 center, FXi3's surround. NAD T-747 A/V. Family room about 2000 cu ft. Open to dining & kitchen area an additional 1000-1500 cu ft. HT setup is facing sideways, not lengthwise towards dining area due to full wall fireplace on end of family room. Big archway opens to the dining/kitchen area. So I'm aware of the 3000-3500 total cu ft area needing to be pressurized.

Probably 40/40/20 % for HT, music, TV broadcast. Not a heavy bass type people. Just the wife and I for good clean bass with movies and music more so than with heavy bass. Were both retired and just set up our HT system except for the subwoofer.

Budget desires are around $500, plus or minus, preferrably under that. You always gotta add heavy sub shipping (sometimes). From all the groups opinions and experience it seems like the Velodyne's, SVS's, & HSU's are great. I've been studying the SVS PB10-NSD, the Hsu VTF-1 or STF-2, and the Vel DEQ10R. Kinda narrowed it down to these due to they are all around the 400-500 range except the STF-2. Going to the 12 inches kinda gets me out of budget almost. I also heard that the 10 inchers are a little tighter for music??? I know I'm kinda on the edge of cu ft here, but like I said I'm more on the tight clear bass than heavy stuff. I'm thinking these 10 inchers would fill my need? How would the Polk Micro Pro 3000 compare to these?

Has anyone really heard these different subs. Pretty hard to demo the SVS & HSU. Thanks for your thoughts & opinions, I got some budget money burning holes in my pockets for Christmas.
:)spnplgr
Frt: Polk RTi8's
Ctr: Polk CSi5
Surr: Polk FXi3's
Sub: SVS PC12-NSD
TV: Sony KDL-XBR4 46"
A/V: NAD T-747
Sony BDP-S300
Eq rack: VTI AGR404
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  • bms
    bms Posts: 182
    edited December 2009
    Hello Jim,
    Are you able to receive pm's? The system says you can't.
    bms
    bms
    Family Room:
    Onkyo TX-RZ920
    Outlaw 2200 monoblock amps x 3
    Sony UBP-X700
    Sony A80J 77” OLED
    Polk LSiM 705’s
    Polk LSiM 706
    Polk LSiM 703’s
    Polk RTi4's
    Dual SVS PB13-Ultra’s
    PC13-Ultra

    Bonus Room:
    Onkyo TX-SR806
    PS3
    Panasonic TC-P42G10
    Polk RTi10's
    Polk CSi5
    Polk R50's
    SVS PB10-ISD

    For sale:
    Onkyo TX-SR603X
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    Out of those choices, PB10-NSD. If you can get a demo, DSW Pro 600. The MicroPRO 3000 won't dig as low as a couple of those mentioned but it's VERY tight and musical.

    I've owned 5 SVS subwoofers and demo'd most of the new Polk lineup. They match up pretty well until the bass gets really low. That's still a bit of an Achille's heel for Polk Audio. My standouts would be the DSW Pro 600, MicroPRO 3000 and the lowly and tiny, PSW111. :D
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited December 2009
    Welcome to the Club!

    I would say go with the SVS, also try Epik subwoofers.

    http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/products.html
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
  • JYAJoe
    JYAJoe Posts: 120
    edited December 2009
    Demo in your own home with their return policy and send back if you dont like. I went on a wild goose chase to demo speakers 80 miles from home and probably spent as much on travel and gas than it would have cost me to return
  • JYAJoe
    JYAJoe Posts: 120
    edited December 2009
    Get the 12 NSD if possible much better.
  • JYAJoe
    JYAJoe Posts: 120
    edited December 2009
    I have a psw505 that sounds great for HT and low volume music.

    249.00 newegg.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    JYAJoe wrote: »

    That's a ridiculous comment.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • JYAJoe
    JYAJoe Posts: 120
    edited December 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    That's a ridiculous comment.

    Whats so ridiculous the price or the not for music.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,027
    edited December 2009
    The music. It's a great sub with many options to blend well.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    Not for music. I'd see it less as a HT subwoofer than for music. It's tight and fast, just what you'd want for music. As far as the price for either subwoofer, it's excellent...especially for the MicroPRO.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • JYAJoe
    JYAJoe Posts: 120
    edited December 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    That's a ridiculous comment.

    Now ive done the research on this particular sub and have listened to it with music

    Call 1-866-764-1801.... They seem to agree.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,027
    edited December 2009
    I don't need to call anybody. I have had it in my home on a variety of gear. Your research must be skewed and I hope for you that number isn't SPAM.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    jyajoe wrote: »
    now ive done the research on this particular sub and have listened to it with music

    call 1-866-764-1801.... They seem to agree.

    lmao.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • JYAJoe
    JYAJoe Posts: 120
    edited December 2009
    However at low volumes I have yet to hear a Polk sub that sounds bad, Music or HT. PSW 505 sound muffled but the price cant beat it with a stick.

    Thereagain im not a dedicated aduophile. And have listened to high end subs.
  • JYAJoe
    JYAJoe Posts: 120
    edited December 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    I don't need to call anybody. I have had it in my home on a variety of gear. Your research must be skewed and I hope for you that number isn't SPAM.

    Spam thats the number to Polk Tech.... I will go now, so you can help this person with his request. Ive said what I wanted about the micropro
  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited December 2009
    If you could find a HSU VTF3-MK3 I think you will be pleased. Of the 10"s you listed the SVS would be my choice.

    The HSU I mentioned is a very good music and HT sub. CS is great too.

    In my room I was botteming out the 3 3 (also had 2 MBM-12)and ended up with a SVS PB13, never looked back.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • bms
    bms Posts: 182
    edited December 2009
    My room situation is similar to yours and the pb10 works really well. The sub goes low and hits hard - you will be impressed. Definitely worth the money.

    I did consider the HSU VTF-2 MK3, but the SVS got better reviews everywhere I looked, the price was better, & Tom impressed me when I spoke to him - he called from his cell on the way home from CES to speak to me about the purchase.
    bms
    Family Room:
    Onkyo TX-RZ920
    Outlaw 2200 monoblock amps x 3
    Sony UBP-X700
    Sony A80J 77” OLED
    Polk LSiM 705’s
    Polk LSiM 706
    Polk LSiM 703’s
    Polk RTi4's
    Dual SVS PB13-Ultra’s
    PC13-Ultra

    Bonus Room:
    Onkyo TX-SR806
    PS3
    Panasonic TC-P42G10
    Polk RTi10's
    Polk CSi5
    Polk R50's
    SVS PB10-ISD

    For sale:
    Onkyo TX-SR603X
  • spnplgr
    spnplgr Posts: 33
    edited December 2009
    bms wrote: »
    Hello Jim,
    Are you able to receive pm's? The system says you can't.
    bms

    I think my settings were wrong, I just changed them.
    :)spnplgr
    Frt: Polk RTi8's
    Ctr: Polk CSi5
    Surr: Polk FXi3's
    Sub: SVS PC12-NSD
    TV: Sony KDL-XBR4 46"
    A/V: NAD T-747
    Sony BDP-S300
    Eq rack: VTI AGR404
  • spnplgr
    spnplgr Posts: 33
    edited December 2009
    Well thanks for all the input. Really appreciate all your comments and opinions. I've pretty much come to the conclusion, that all of these subs that you or I have discussed are all on the upper level of quality for the price. Therefore I feel that I couldn't go wrong with any one of them. My gut tells me that tomorrow I will be calling SVS and ordering the PB10-NSD. As you mentioned, I can order it and demo it at home to my satisfaction. I value the input of you, the Polk Forum members, that's what got me started on the road to reviews and questions and decisions. Your time spent answering my questions are very much appreciated, even if I agreed or disagreed with them, they are still valued.

    I am retired. As soon as my new sub arrives, I will continue filling the wood stove with oak, drink hot coffee with some Bailey's, stay inside out of the Minnesota cold & snow, and listen to music and movies while getting acquainted with my sub. Then I will report back to you-all. Thanks group.
    :)spnplgr
    Frt: Polk RTi8's
    Ctr: Polk CSi5
    Surr: Polk FXi3's
    Sub: SVS PC12-NSD
    TV: Sony KDL-XBR4 46"
    A/V: NAD T-747
    Sony BDP-S300
    Eq rack: VTI AGR404
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    spnplgr wrote: »
    I am retired. As soon as my new sub arrives, I will continue filling the wood stove with oak, drink hot coffee with some Bailey's, stay inside out of the Minnesota cold & snow, and listen to music and movies while getting acquainted with my sub. Then I will report back to you-all. Thanks group.

    Now THAT sounds like a plan! :D The PB10 is an excellent choice....see if you can stretch a little bit for the PB12.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • Soundmind
    Soundmind Posts: 22
    edited December 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Now THAT sounds like a plan! :D The PB10 is an excellent choice....see if you can stretch a little bit for the PB12.

    SVS very good stuff. You wont be sorry !
    Panamax M5100-EX HT Power conditioner
    Yamaha RXV861 tuner
    Carver TFM25 amp
    Carver av-405 surround amp
    Carver ct-17 Tuner
    Sony BDP-S350 BluRay
    Sony 222ES CD
    Sony PS-LX520 Linear track Turntable
    Panasonic 46" flatscreen
    Polk LSI 15 mains
    SVS PB-12 plus Sub
    JBL center channel
    Polk LSI 9 surrounds
    Polk monitor 12 series II "old mains"
  • Soundmind
    Soundmind Posts: 22
    edited December 2009
    spnplgr wrote: »
    Well thanks for all the input. Really appreciate all your comments and opinions. I've pretty much come to the conclusion, that all of these subs that you or I have discussed are all on the upper level of quality for the price. Therefore I feel that I couldn't go wrong with any one of them. My gut tells me that tomorrow I will be calling SVS and ordering the PB10-NSD. As you mentioned, I can order it and demo it at home to my satisfaction. I value the input of you, the Polk Forum members, that's what got me started on the road to reviews and questions and decisions. Your time spent answering my questions are very much appreciated, even if I agreed or disagreed with them, they are still valued.

    I am retired. As soon as my new sub arrives, I will continue filling the wood stove with oak, drink hot coffee with some Bailey's, stay inside out of the Minnesota cold & snow, and listen to music and movies while getting acquainted with my sub. Then I will report back to you-all. Thanks group.
    Also look in B-stock section on SVS site for some bargains...
    Panamax M5100-EX HT Power conditioner
    Yamaha RXV861 tuner
    Carver TFM25 amp
    Carver av-405 surround amp
    Carver ct-17 Tuner
    Sony BDP-S350 BluRay
    Sony 222ES CD
    Sony PS-LX520 Linear track Turntable
    Panasonic 46" flatscreen
    Polk LSI 15 mains
    SVS PB-12 plus Sub
    JBL center channel
    Polk LSI 9 surrounds
    Polk monitor 12 series II "old mains"
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    Good idea Soundmind...there are some killer deals in there sometimes. You never know what will be there on a daily basis.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • lanion
    lanion Posts: 843
    edited December 2009
    HSU or SVS you will be very happy based on 5 years of researching the internet response. I can't think of anyone unhappy with a HSU of SVS purchase. Polks new subs also seem great if you get them at discount via the ebay store.
    My Iron Man training/charity blog.

    HT:
    32" Sharp LCD. H/K dpr 1001 to Outlaw Audio 7900 to Polk LSi + Paradigm Studio center. Hsu DualDrive ULS-15. PS3/Wii. Outlaw 7900.
  • bms
    bms Posts: 182
    edited December 2009
    spnplgr wrote: »
    Well thanks for all the input. Really appreciate all your comments and opinions. I've pretty much come to the conclusion, that all of these subs that you or I have discussed are all on the upper level of quality for the price. Therefore I feel that I couldn't go wrong with any one of them. My gut tells me that tomorrow I will be calling SVS and ordering the PB10-NSD. As you mentioned, I can order it and demo it at home to my satisfaction. I value the input of you, the Polk Forum members, that's what got me started on the road to reviews and questions and decisions. Your time spent answering my questions are very much appreciated, even if I agreed or disagreed with them, they are still valued.

    I am retired. As soon as my new sub arrives, I will continue filling the wood stove with oak, drink hot coffee with some Bailey's, stay inside out of the Minnesota cold & snow, and listen to music and movies while getting acquainted with my sub. Then I will report back to you-all. Thanks group.
    Best of luck - will be looking for a report after you've burned a few logs and downed a few "coffees".
    bms
    Family Room:
    Onkyo TX-RZ920
    Outlaw 2200 monoblock amps x 3
    Sony UBP-X700
    Sony A80J 77” OLED
    Polk LSiM 705’s
    Polk LSiM 706
    Polk LSiM 703’s
    Polk RTi4's
    Dual SVS PB13-Ultra’s
    PC13-Ultra

    Bonus Room:
    Onkyo TX-SR806
    PS3
    Panasonic TC-P42G10
    Polk RTi10's
    Polk CSi5
    Polk R50's
    SVS PB10-ISD

    For sale:
    Onkyo TX-SR603X
  • spnplgr
    spnplgr Posts: 33
    edited December 2009
    I did it. Ordered the SVS PC12-NSD this afternoon. That cylinder ships tomorrow.
    :)spnplgr
    Frt: Polk RTi8's
    Ctr: Polk CSi5
    Surr: Polk FXi3's
    Sub: SVS PC12-NSD
    TV: Sony KDL-XBR4 46"
    A/V: NAD T-747
    Sony BDP-S300
    Eq rack: VTI AGR404
  • JYAJoe
    JYAJoe Posts: 120
    edited December 2009
    Please reply and let us know specially me how you like it

    Thanks
  • KASR
    KASR Posts: 450
    edited December 2009
    For that price, you might also check out the Chrysalis by Velodyne Starfire series...I was pretty impressed with their sound and it's in your price range.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2009
    KASR wrote: »
    For that price, you might also check out the Chrysalis by Velodyne Starfire series...I was pretty impressed with their sound and it's in your price range.

    I wouldn't lose any sleep over that off brand. If you want a real Velodyne, buy one.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.