Floorstand to book shelf speakers

mrbofus

So last night sitting on the couch watching TV, the wife say that she ordered a different media center TV stand and it is gonna be bigger than what we have. Great I'm in for that- then she says since its gonna be wider it will push my rti8s out to wide and that she thinks I should replace the floor stand speakers with book shelf style that will sit on the TV stand-still no problem.
then in all my infinite wisdom I said then we will need to replace the bookself speakers when I get a bigger TV to fill up the bigger stand----
I suppose you all can imagine how that turned out.............

Question, what would be a good book shelf to replace the RTi8's with?
Currently powered by an onkyo 507 with no center,sub or rears yet.
Suggestion or recommendations????

----I will post pictures of current set up and future set up when i figure out how.
Greg

Erik Tracy

Folks talk alot about the WAF...what about the HRF (Husband Rejection Factor) to the WAF?

You could always buy some crummy bookshelves that would sound sooo bad that the wife will want you to bring back the RTi8s!

But seriously...I'd say go with some RTiA3s from Polk's Ebay direct, then look for a good sub.

danz1906

Agreed, the RTiA3s would be a good choice, or a used pair of RT55is.

skrol

Erik Tracy wrote: »

...You could always buy some crummy bookshelves that would sound sooo bad that the wife will want you to bring back the RTi8s!...

Too dangerous. Your wife will think the crap speakers sound ok and you'll be stuck with them. When my wife wanted me to get rid of the RTA11TL's, I tried setting up the Monitor 5A's with one tweeter fuse removed. She didn't notice.:(

I still have the RTA's set up and I am hoping she forgets the idea.

comfortablycurt

LSi9's and an LSiC, plus LSi7's for surrounds.

Nuff said.

messiah

Keiko and Curt have the right idea!!

domflane

+ 1 for the lsi's. Now you have the perfect excuse to upgrade

packetjones

I was going to come in here and recommend the RTiA3's. I have a pair of them and really enjoy them. I did feel that i needed a sub to fill in the low end but they are some very nice speakers. You can get them at very reasonable prices on polk direct. If yo udont see them there just wait a little and they will show up. They do tend to go pretty fast though.

After seeing the other recommendations though. I would see if i could get away with some LSi's. 7's or 9's would be great.

mrbofus

Thanks for the insite, I dont think i can pull off $1000 a pair for LSi's and arent the LSi series a 4 ohm speaker? If someone could give me a basic rundown or point me in the right dirrection to read up on ohm ratings and what it means that would be great.
I would love the Big upgrage to the lsi series but the rti's are more realistic. maybe

I dont have an external amp right now, I will be using an Onkyo sr507 so the LSi's might not work for me. Once again I was thinking out loud and said (jokingly) we could just put the rti8's on the new media stand then they would be off the floor.....you can imaging how that went over!

mrbofus

I see where the rtia3 can be wall mounted. Whats the opinion of wall mounting spekers?

packetjones

I have a pair of A3's and was considering wall mounting them. After looking into it i decided against it. The A3's are very large inmy opinion and I thought that they would look strange/unusual mounted on the wall where i would need to mount them. Keep in mind they are roughly 9x14x14. So. Some others here have mounted them and they good in their pics but just would not work for me. I ended up getting some stands for mine. The RTiA1's would probable mount easier as they are a little smaller. I have also had a pair of OWM3's and they mounted great and worked out really well as surrounds.

mrbofus

packetjones wrote: »

I have a pair of A3's and was considering wall mounting them. After looking into it i decided against it. The A3's are very large inmy opinion and I thought that they would look strange/unusual mounted on the wall where i would need to mount them. Keep in mind they are roughly 9x14x14. So. Some others here have mounted them and they good in their pics but just would not work for me. I ended up getting some stands for mine. The RTiA1's would probable mount easier as they are a little smaller. I have also had a pair of OWM3's and they mounted great and worked out really well as surrounds.

I made a cardboard box roughly thr size of the rti3 and put it on the wall. Not sure I like that option so if I do go this way they will sit on the tv stand. OWM3's would probably be my rears too. Good to hear the two work well with each other.
Thanks for the input

kwikrnu

I can imagine how it turned out. My wife hates AV until she wants to watch a movie or listen to her CD's.

mrbofus

Greetings all,
Sorry to bring back an old post but a few more questions regarding this matter.
... If I get the RTIA3 they will sit within 2 inches of my flat screen LCD TV on the new TV stand. is there a problem with speakers so close to a TV?
...and If I were to sell my cherry RTi8's, whats a fair price????
I think this is slowly starting to come together.
Greg

nguyendot

No problems with spacing in regards to your tv, only in relationship to each other. If they are too close to each other you will not get very good imaging. If you have them too far apart you'll have a hole in the sound field.

AsSiMiLaTeD

I assume you're planning on adding a sub to the mix to fill in the low end?

mrbofus

nguyendot wrote: »

No problems with spacing in regards to your tv, only in relationship to each other. If they are too close to each other you will not get very good imaging. If you have them too far apart you'll have a hole in the sound field.

They will be about 60" apart.

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

I assume you're planning on adding a sub to the mix to fill in the low end?

Yes a sub will be in the works but not for a while or until $$ allows/

cfrizz

Keiko wrote: »

Nah...I'd take advantage of this situation, BIG time. Go with some LSi9's and upgrade your amp. Get some 7's for surround duty, a CSi and good sub down the road.

Hmm, that could work. Me thinks it's is simply a ploy by his wife to force him to get rid of his 8s. I'd tell her NO!

mrbofus

cfrizz wrote: »

Hmm, that could work. Me thinks it's is simply a ploy by his wife to force him to get rid of his 8s. I'd tell her NO!

easy for you to say, you dont live with her. Ha Ha

I will try to post pictures so you can see what I'm dealing with.

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space wise, not pics of the wife---

skrol

cfrizz wrote: »

Hmm, that could work. Me thinks it's is simply a ploy by his wife to force him to get rid of his 8s. I'd tell her NO!

I am with you. That topic seems to gone dormant in my house; for now anyway.

nguyendot

mrbofus wrote: »

They will be about 60" apart.



Yes a sub will be in the works but not for a while or until $$ allows/

It also depends how far you are going to be apart from them. Generally you want to be no more than double the distance from them that they are apart, depending on the dispersion characteristics of the speaker.

AsSiMiLaTeD

I'd tell her that if you're going to be forced into bookshelf speakers then a sub is part of the deal, period

mrbofus

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

I'd tell her that if you're going to be forced into bookshelf speakers then a sub is part of the deal, period

Maybe I can build the rest of the system around the Rti8's and she will forget about wanting the smaller speakers.....
Will the RtiA3 with a sub be a decent set up? I am seriously considering a Surround bar instead if a 5.1 at this point. But if I go 5.1 how would this be:
RTia3 fronts
CSia4 center
OWM3 rears
and an unknown sub
Onkyo SR-507
Thanks guys
Greg

Erik Tracy

mrbofus wrote: »

Maybe I can build the rest of the system around the Rti8's and she will forget about wanting the smaller speakers.....
Will the RtiA3 with a sub be a decent set up? I am seriously considering a Surround bar instead if a 5.1 at this point. But if I go 5.1 how would this be:
RTia3 fronts
CSia4 center
OWM3 rears
and an unknown sub
Onkyo SR-507
Thanks guys
Greg

Well for what its worth - I run RTiA3 as fronts with a CSi3 center and an Epik Sealed Subwoofer (RTi4s as surrounds for 5.1).

I think I get very good sonic performance for music or HT. With the Sub, I get great sound top to bottom with that RTi "sparkle"

And with my modified Carver - I can rock da house!! :eek:

concealer404

I just show mine pictures of Carver Amazings and Polk 1.2TLs, and tell her it could be MUCH MUCH WORSE.

Then she stays quiet.

mrbofus

Sorry for bringing this back to life but more questions.....
Finally got the new tV stand and every thing hooked up. Buy the way the RTi8's sound better with the new onkyo than the old technics, but I suppose that goes with out saying. Anyway the speaker topic came up again and I was wondering about the VM10's or VM20. Whats your experience with the VM line // I an still thinking Rtia3 with a sub but these cought my eye....

anhchungdoan

Keiko wrote: »

Nah...I'd take advantage of this situation, BIG time. Go with some LSi9's and upgrade your amp. Get some 7's for surround duty, a CSi and good sub down the road.

Best advice so far.

Menasor

Yes on LSi9's. Also you could be like me... When my wife complained about my BIC Acoustech H100 being big, I went out and got an SVS PC12-NSD with a "smaller footprint" hahaha

devani

LSi for sure....I surely miss them...

math-geek

mrbofus wrote: »

So last night sitting on the couch watching TV, the wife say that she ordered a different media center TV stand and it is gonna be bigger than what we have. Great I'm in for that- then she says since its gonna be wider it will push my rti8s out to wide and that she thinks I should replace the floor stand speakers with book shelf style that will sit on the TV stand-still no problem.
then in all my infinite wisdom I said then we will need to replace the bookself speakers when I get a bigger TV to fill up the bigger stand----
I suppose you all can imagine how that turned out.............

Question, what would be a good book shelf to replace the RTi8's with?
Currently powered by an onkyo 507 with no center,sub or rears yet.
Suggestion or recommendations????

----I will post pictures of current set up and future set up when i figure out how.
Greg

I will help to win this. Show her the price of a pair of Dynaudio Contour 1.4s and see what her reaction is!

My ex (thank you) was a bit shocked when I purchased a pair of $3600.00 book shelf speakers.:D

"Book shelf" speakers on an entertainment center will end up sounding like crap. They generally need very good stands and as much, if not more space, to sound as good as floor standers. Also note that you may need much more power to attain the same volume levels that you are used to when using a monitor speaker.

Time for a big upgrade!:)

fluffy

Erik Tracy wrote: »

Folks talk alot about the WAF...what about the HRF (Husband Rejection Factor) to the WAF?

You could always buy some crummy bookshelves that would sound sooo bad that the wife will want you to bring back the RTi8s!

But seriously...I'd say go with some RTiA3s from Polk's Ebay direct, then look for a good sub.

skrol wrote: »

Too dangerous. Your wife will think the crap speakers sound ok and you'll be stuck with them. When my wife wanted me to get rid of the RTA11TL's, I tried setting up the Monitor 5A's with one tweeter fuse removed. She didn't notice.:(

I still have the RTA's set up and I am hoping she forgets the idea.

yeah chicks just dont care that much about surround sound... if it makes noise then it is good enough for them...:rolleyes: