When do you lose your audiophile card?

treitz3
treitz3 Posts: 19,150
edited November 2009 in The Clubhouse
I'm sitting here thinking tonight when an audio enthusiast should just stop and turn in his audiophile card. After he settles on MP3 or an I-pod? When he reads and believes the RR link? Or is it something different?

At what point should the audiophile card be revoked?

For me? I think it is when an audiophile "believes".

Let's take a look at this word for a second, shall we? You may believe in the tooth fairy, you may believe in Santa Clause and you may also believe in the wicked witch of the east........BUT, [and there is a but] why would you have to believe in what you hear? You either hear it or you don't.

For me, if you feel you HAVE to believe then the only way of redemption is no pud whacking for 20 days and sacrificing all of your BLOSE, [fill in the blank ;)] gear to the audio gods. After that, your sins may be forgiven.
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,150
    edited November 2009
    But I doubt it.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    What is an audiophile? Do they have to register with local authorities?
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited November 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    What is an audiophile? Do they have to register with local authorities?

    That and you're not supposed to live within 1000 feet of a hi-fi store :rolleyes:
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited November 2009
    Probably when you think you cannot upgrade your system anymore, tweak it, etc.? When the journey ends and the driver lets you out of the car because you are THERE! But there is NO THERE to get to?

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited November 2009
    When you arrive at the "white room" with no curtains.;)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • jimmydep
    jimmydep Posts: 1,305
    edited November 2009
    When you have to turn the volume on your hearing aid higher than the volume on your system.....
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  • janmike
    janmike Posts: 6,146
    edited November 2009
    When that first CD you bought back in October of '82 sounds as good as your top quality SACD on your reference rig.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2009
    When you reach the Bottom of the Rabbit Hole.

    RT1
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited November 2009
    Im not even an Audiophile apprentice yet, at 43 I may never make it!
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited November 2009
    When you add an EQ to your rig.
    Testing
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  • mmadden28
    mmadden28 Posts: 4,283
    edited November 2009
    187CAM wrote: »
    When you add an EQ to your rig.

    Well I guess the recording engineers are out then.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,448
    edited November 2009
    you lose your audiophile card when you buy an Ipod, anything bose, or an Emo product.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited November 2009
    I hate this thread!



    Oh, wait...


    ...sorry, wrong thread.
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited November 2009
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    you lose your audiophile card when you buy an Ipod, anything bose, or an Emo product.

    Correction buy an ipod and not select lossless for the rip format. :D
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited November 2009
    When your trunk vibrates from bass, audiophile card PULLED.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,842
    edited November 2009
    What if you don't have a trunk?
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited November 2009
    I hear what I hear and I like what I like.

    I don't care what anyone else hears or what anyone else likes.

    You don't have to prove anything to me because it doesn't matter.

    Gear is gear. Music is good. Music on good gear is better.

    I have an iPod.

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    I don't think I've ever had an audiophile card...but you can have it back any time if I do...because I have never played that card.
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited November 2009
    I agree as long as you like what you hear that is what matters. I have a friend that tells me I do not have enough bass in my setup I tell him that it is balanced with what the music is nothing more.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited November 2009
    Most of the younger generation have not a clue as to what real bass sounds like. They are used to extremely distorted, over-hanging, and over-leveled bass---it's like SUGAR.
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited November 2009
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Most of the younger generation have not a clue as to what real bass sounds like. They are used to extremely distorted, over-hanging, and over-leveled bass---it's like SUGAR.

    Well I am 21 and have to agree with you. They only want bass bass and more bass and do not care how they get the music or song, they just download in whatever format they can find. Me I am totally different. I have to have the original cd I have to have it ripped in loss less. I have to have good smooth sound. I have to have good music not some crap that was thrown together in 4 days by some rapper. I want quality!!
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited November 2009
    shack wrote: »
    I hear what I hear and I like what I like.

    I don't care what anyone else hears or what anyone else likes.

    You don't have to prove anything to me because it doesn't matter.
    Gear is gear. Music is good. Music on good gear is better.

    I have an iPod.


    I don't think I've ever had an audiophile card...but you can have it back any time if I do...because I have never played that card.

    When I first started reading this I could almost hear a blues rhythm behind it.:)

    In any case some very wise thoughts/words.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited November 2009
    janmike wrote: »
    When that first CD you bought back in October of '82 sounds as good as your top quality SACD on your reference rig.

    Good one Mike!
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited November 2009
    When you install SL2000 tweets in your car.
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  • woodsman10b
    woodsman10b Posts: 408
    edited November 2009
    When you've blown up speakers and/or amps from the results of a TWI (tweaking while intoxicated). Damn them AudioCops!!
    Most of them only hear how loud it sounds, and the rest of us hear everything else - :rolleyes:
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited November 2009
    janmike wrote: »
    When that first CD you bought back in October of '82 sounds as good as your top quality SACD on your reference rig.
    jimmydep wrote: »
    When you have to turn the volume on your hearing aid higher than the volume on your system.....

    When you can't help but think these two posts have a direct correlation.:D
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited November 2009
    When you question believing in what you hear. Last night I listened to a recording someone made and for whatever reason it sounded like the most real, dynamic thing I have ever heard. I played it again. It was just as good. I played it two more times. Still, awesome. I decided I couldn't trust myself and what I heard. I'm going to listen again tonight and see if it is still there. I don't believe it is but something was. What was it? I hope it comes back but I'm doubtful. Still, I did hear it.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2009
    When you become a meterphile.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • blakeh
    blakeh Posts: 491
    edited November 2009
    I always lose mine in the wash.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited November 2009
    When?

    When you join any user forum.
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2009
    mine say`s VISA at the bottom
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