Oppo BDP-83 Special Edition - Sabre 32 DAC

SolidSqual
SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
edited January 2010 in Electronics
Anybody else see page 82 of the December issue of TAS? Evidently, ESS Technology and Oppo are combining the Sabre32 DAC and the BDP-83!!!!
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  • kuntasensei
    kuntasensei Posts: 3,263
    edited November 2009
    Yeah, there has been a little talk about it over at AVS. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out. For me, I'm good with my current BDP-83... but it's cool that they're gonna offer this.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited November 2009
    Keiko wrote: »
    What are the advantages with this DAC?

    Better analog sound on the 2ch outputs.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,233
    edited November 2009
    I wonder what the price is going to be?
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited November 2009
    mantis wrote: »
    I wonder what the price is going to be?

    I would think somewhere around $600.00-$850.00
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,105
    edited November 2009
    Check this out...NuForce is doing different level mods on the Oppo BD-83. They're also coming out with their own CD player. If it's anything like their amps, they have a winner.
    http://www.nuforce.com/hi/products/oppo_bdp83se/index.php
    "2 Channel & 11.2 HT "Two Channel:Magnepan LRSSchiit Audio Freya S - SS preConsonance Ref 50 - Tube preParasound HALO A21+ 2 channel ampBluesound NODE 2i streameriFi NEO iDSD DAC Oppo BDP-93KEF KC62 sub Home Theater:Full blown 11.2 set up.
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  • Gaara
    Gaara Posts: 2,415
    edited November 2009
    danz1906 wrote: »
    I would think somewhere around $600.00-$850.00

    $895 according to NuForce. I would have bit for an extra $100, for $400 I'll just get it modded.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2009
    I wonder how the Nuforce will compare to the ModWright mod?
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    danz1906 wrote: »
    Better analog sound on the 2ch outputs.

    Better analog sound period. Improved output stages for all analog outs.

    I'm pretty excited. I wonder if this can be a retrofit upgrade. If so, I'd be inclined to go for it.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • anhchungdoan
    anhchungdoan Posts: 760
    edited November 2009
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    Check this out...NuForce is doing different level mods on the Oppo BD-83. They're also coming out with their own CD player. If it's anything like their amps, they have a winner.
    http://www.nuforce.com/hi/products/oppo_bdp83se/index.php


    For the modded price, if I do not use SACD, Would it be better to buy the Pio Elte BDP09 ( street price around $1,500.00)?
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  • Hilbert
    Hilbert Posts: 316
    edited November 2009
    If I understand this page:

    http://www.nuforce.com/hi/products/oppo_bdp83se/bdp83-upgrade.php

    you can trade in your Oppo 83 for the upgraded Nu Force version at a $300 discount, $995 rather than $1295.

    The weakness of the oppo (imo) is redbook 2 channel playback. But a grand would buy a Marantz 8003...tough decision.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited November 2009
    May as well get a dedicated SACD/CD player at that price. Let the Oppo do its magic on video. Better to to do one thing well than try to do everything well.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited November 2009
    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83SE/

    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83SE/blu-ray-BDP-83SE-Comparison.aspx

    The SE replaced the analog section, the OP amps, the DACs for $400.00. I read the Nuforce info, which adds another layer of upgrades to the analog board for an additional $400.

    Interesting, but I'm not jumping in.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    You can do an upgrade for $300 if you have a BDP-83 already. I may go for it.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • BB3
    BB3 Posts: 297
    edited November 2009
    I say good move on Oppo's part in a way to improve their "Audio Credibility" side of things.

    Just curious, and I could be totally wrong on this point, but is this way on Oppo's part to compete with Denon's "Advanced AL32 Processing"?

    ----BB3
    Sony 52in.XBR6
    Sony 32in.XBR6
    Anthem AVM50V
    Anthem PRE-2L
    Sonic Frontiers SFCD-1
    Carver C-9
    Carver C-19 PreAmp
    Carver C-16 PreAmp
    2-Carver Silver 7-T's
    4-Carver TFM55's
    2-Carver TFM35's
    1-Carver TFM25
    Carver 490T
    Denon DCD1560
    Sony BDP-S350
    Sony PS3
    Nintendo Wii
    Panasonic DMK23DVR

    Speakers :

    PolkAudio SDA-SRS
    PolkAudio SDA-SRS 1.2TL
    PolkAudio SDA-CRS+(Compliments Of Mr. Jim Thomas"jtgranby")
    PolkAudio RTA-15TL
    PolkAudio M3
    3-Velodyne F-1500's
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited November 2009
    BB3 wrote: »
    I say good move on Oppo's part in a way to improve their "Audio Credibility" side of things.

    Just curious, and I could be totally wrong on this point, but is this way on Oppo's part to compete with Denon's "Advanced AL32 Processing"?

    ----BB3


    Going with the position of Marantz.
    Leave the source for the best choice for video and forget the image scaler. So the audio will work together.
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited November 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    You can do an upgrade for $300 if you have a BDP-83 already. I may go for it.
    Not sure where you're getting that. It's $1296 for a Nuforce/SE or it's $995 for a trade in...or > $525 with shipping. Not a terrible deal if it's as good or better than the Modwright upgrade, but it ain't 3 bills.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,542
    edited November 2009
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83SE/

    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83SE/blu-ray-BDP-83SE-Comparison.aspx

    The SE replaced the analog section, the OP amps, the DACs for $400.00. I read the Nuforce info, which adds another layer of upgrades to the analog board for an additional $400.

    Interesting, but I'm not jumping in.

    The trade in for Oppo with Oppo is $299:

    • The cost of the upgrade is $299 while a brand new BDP-83SE costs $899. This represents a $100 saving for existing BDP-83 customers willing to accept the non-replaceable front panel. Customers can pay for the upgrade via our online store.

    The Nuforce one is more.
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  • olilugo
    olilugo Posts: 405
    edited November 2009
    all keep in mind per Oppo's website is you use HDMI then there is no need to upgrade or buy the SE model, this product is only for people that want to use the analog connections.
    Current HT setup
    Mains: B&W 804s
    Center: Polk CSi5
    Surround: Polk FXi3
    Sub: Velodyne DLS-3750R
    Receiver: Pioneer SC-07
    Amplifier: Sunfire TGA5200
    TV: Sony KDS60A2020
    DBP: Sony DBP-S350
    CDP: Pioneer DV-48AV
    Interconnect cables: SignalCable analog II
    speaker cables: SignalCable Ultra Speaker Cables Bi-wire
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    Not sure where you're getting that. It's $1296 for a Nuforce/SE or it's $995 for a trade in...or > $525 with shipping. Not a terrible deal if it's as good or better than the Modwright upgrade, but it ain't 3 bills.
    I was referring to the Oppo upgrade. Not the NuForce.

    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-83SE/blu-ray-BDP-83SE-UpgradeOption.aspx
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited November 2009
    Emlyn wrote: »
    The trade in for Oppo with Oppo is $299:

    • The cost of the upgrade is $299 while a brand new BDP-83SE costs $899. This represents a $100 saving for existing BDP-83 customers willing to accept the non-replaceable front panel. Customers can pay for the upgrade via our online store.

    The Nuforce one is more.
    vc69 wrote:
    I was referring to the Oppo upgrade. Not the NuForce.

    http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-b...adeOption.aspx

    Ahh-ha :D. I didn't see the Oppo offer. That's interesting and since I do use the analog connection, it's something to think about. I'm pleased with the current analog performance...somebody do a review please...before the offer expires. They are only 20 minutes away. I might not be down more than a few days.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited November 2009
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    Ahh-ha :D. I didn't see the Oppo offer. That's interesting and since I do use the analog connection, it's something to think about. I'm pleased with the current analog performance...somebody do a review please...before the offer expires. They are only 20 minutes away. I might not be down more than a few days.

    Same here but I would willing to pay for better.
    Somebody over at AVS mentioned speaking with Oppo and they said turnaround time was 3-5 days and that the upgrade resets the warranty.

    I am just waiting to get some feedback from early-adopters. :cool:
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
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  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited November 2009
    vc69 wrote: »
    Same here but I would willing to pay for better.
    Somebody over at AVS mentioned speaking with Oppo and they said turnaround time was 3-5 days and that the upgrade resets the warranty.

    I am just waiting to get some feedback from early-adopters. :cool:
    Another local friend says he's going to do it, but is waiting for Gene De la Scalla's at AH's report first. Hope it happens soon. It would only be 2-3 days for me.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited November 2009
    Music Direct has the Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2009
    danz1906 wrote: »
    Music Direct has the Oppo BDP-83 SE

    Yeah, I just got the add. I also saw that the Oppo will have USB inputs for a music server. I wonder if it will accept a 24/96 signal.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited November 2009
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    Check this out...NuForce is doing different level mods on the Oppo BD-83. They're also coming out with their own CD player. If it's anything like their amps, they have a winner.
    http://www.nuforce.com/hi/products/oppo_bdp83se/index.php

    I've played with the first round of Nu-Force amps and glad they were returned. They didn't do anything good for me.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2009
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I've played with the first round of Nu-Force amps and glad they were returned. They didn't do anything good for me.

    Yeah +1 here, I love Class D, but I can't say the 1st generation of Nuforce were good. In fact they sounded cheap, but I've heard they've improved on their designs since then.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited November 2009
    Hopefully.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Mike LoManaco
    Mike LoManaco Posts: 974
    edited November 2009
    Wow -- interesting thread; noticed it as I was beginning to finalize my choice for a new BD player and was seriously considering the BDP-83.

    Do these new "SE" implementations have any bearing on users setting up HDMI-only connections? There seems to be a great deal of talk surrounding the analog outputs of this enhanced player as if that's where the improvements are going to essentially lie...I personally will be setting up my next BD player the way I have my current one running, which is a single HDMI connection for audio and video, to my receiver for audio processing, and then passthrough to my display for video. Given this, are there any benefits to this Special Edition Oppo?
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  • Midnite Mick
    Midnite Mick Posts: 1,591
    edited November 2009
    If people are going to go to these extremes with this player I would sooner send it to Dan Wright given his excellent track record.

    Regards,
    Mike
    Modwright SWL 9.0 SE (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Consonance cd120T
    Consonance Cyber 800 tube monoblocks (6Sons Audio Thunderbird PC's with Oyaide 004 terminations)
    Usher CP 6311

    Phillips Pronto TS1000 Universal Remote
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  • Mike LoManaco
    Mike LoManaco Posts: 974
    edited November 2009
    Can someone please tell me what this statement ^^ means, exactly? :confused:
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