just not happy with stereo

James t

Long time reader, just made a account to post today.
Thanks to all, for these forums.
Current system
4 Cerwin Vega CLS 215
4 TFM 35x (bridge mono)
carver CT-17 pre amp
This was SO middy that I added Kenwood GE-7020 EQ.

I really would like to get my hands on polk 1.2.
Ever sence I seen them on the cover of stereo review early 90's
I love music loud and deep. Are the 1.2's what I'm looking for compaired to the cls-215's?
I'm ready to scrap the whole system and start over.
Maybe Sunfire subs.
Open to idea's

TroyD

No offense, but anything would be better than the CV's....

BDT

mhardy6647

sadly, the above statement is quite true.

SolidSqual

I liked the old CVs my roommate had in college. They'd bump a party and chicks would be rubbin there junk on them.

TroyD

But, to get back to the topic on hand....why 2 pair? That's not exactly stereo...that's just a LOT of bad sound.

Get a decent set of speaks, set them up for 2ch listening (another pair is just ambient noise)...and go from there.

BDT

Krazyz1

Ditto!

F1nut

Sell it all and come back with a budget.

cnh

F1nut,

Is right...what's your budget....the main problem with CVs is that they have little in the way of clarity and detail--they're mostly a boom-boom speaker for loud noise that people can dance to, not 'listen' to. They are an awful choice for 2 channel listening.

I had a Kenwood receiver in that class even older than yours....the 9010, I think...it had a LOT of POWER, weighed a lot but had a very FLAT sound...it wasn't particularly dynamic and tended to be a little harsh on the high end even though it had ridiculously low THD numbers (.008% distortion at 130 WattsRMS at 8 ohms from 20-20K).

I still have that around...it has a 4 ohm limiter switch so it can pump out at least 75 watts/channel or more at the lower current. It's 19 years old! And was the penultimate to the flagship Kenwood AVR in its time. Better than the 7020. But still had limitations.

cnh

ben62670

Where are you located. There is a set of 2.3s for sale here silly cheap.

comfortablycurt

I'd lose the Cerwin Vega's as soon as possible. I've never been a fan of CV.

Their speakers have tons of bass output, and can pressurize the hell out of a room, but that's basically where it stops. The mids and highs just sound like crap to my ears.

The 1.2's are in an entirely different league than your CV's, and would sound PHENOMENALLY better. IMO, any pair of SDA's would be better than the CV's.

One of my friends dads is a devoted CV fan...he has a pair of the same speakers, the CLS215's. Aside from the CV's having more bass output, my SDA 2A's smoke them in every area. The 2A's are far from lacking in bass output though...they'll rock my whole house, and that's with a measly 100 watt per channel amp!!

A good amp with a pair of 1.2's would walk all over those CV's.

lightman1

CV's Suck....for musical detail......
I've heard that Curt's a ****.

F1nut

lightman1 wrote: »

CV's Suck....for musical detail......
I've heard that Curt's a ****.

Unbelievable!

TroyD

lightman,

Just as a side note....at PF, some of Wendi's coworkers will probably come by, and they are ****, and they are very good friends.....so, those sorts of comments in public, eh, probably not going to win you many points.

BDT

george daniel

I'm assuming that you are looking for a different/more refined sound,, I would sell everything except 2 TFM 35's and keep the pre if you like,(I'm not familar with the one that you have) but you might wanna' be on the lookout for a good tubed pre,,,then find you a set of SDA's,,1C's come to mind,, get a good entry level player, such as a Rotel 855(usually 110 bucks), throw in some used MIT T-2 IC's and SC's(grey color) and then you are on your way.Plus all of the upgrade options available will keep you busy and you'll find that you'll be using the search function quite often,and before you know it,, you'll have a few hundred contributive posts under your belt,and find yourself in a position to help others in similar situations,such as yourself.Like they say in the Nike commercial,,, just do it.You can thank everyone later at an upcoming Polkfest.
Good luck,, alot of valuable information here,, free,, if you ask nicely.:)

George Grand

TroyD wrote: »

lightman,

Just as a side note....at PF, some of Wendi's coworkers will probably come by, and they are ****, and they are very good friends.....so, those sorts of comments in public, eh, probably not going to win you many points.

BDT

Good luck with that.

reeltrouble1

TroyD wrote: »

lightman,

Just as a side note....at PF, some of Wendi's coworkers will probably come by, and they are ****, and they are very good friends.....so, those sorts of comments in public, eh, probably not going to win you many points.

BDT

ya think???? FWIW yesterday it became a Federal Offense Hate Crime to harm, or hinder any person based upon sexual orientation, discrimination aside kinda gives a new spin to "reported" of course Brett may just show up and give the jerk a pounding he won't soon forget in several ways.

as said unbelievable post.

RT1

lightman1

lightman1 wrote: »

CV's Suck....for musical detail......
I've heard that Curt's a ****.

Had a few... sorry:o...won't happen again.....

cnh

Everyone's playing a lot nicer than they did when I was on the other side of the Pacific....hmmmmmmm....

Certainly not a bad thing!



cnh

James t

Thanks for everyones input on this matter. Wife is going to kill me LOL cause the CV arent going to sell fast cause of shipping. And then money I've spent already. Yes a cleaner tighter sound with bass thats true and loud. I bought these for jamming to current music. when I turn it up it needs to hurt. (CV's do, but wrong kind)
Budget? 2000.00 on new speakers. I'll keep everything else. My problem with the 90's polks are old technology? computer aided design? new material componets? I'm sure no one here is using windows 3.1 anymore or 98 2003 ect. Same with you car, if you still have a carburetor your a fool, unless its a 502 chevy.

Thanks you for ur help, out they go. Maybe I'll sell them to my brother. LOL

TroyD

I'll bet that I can go back farther than the 90's and find speakers that will dust most of the competition today.

If you are looking to just play at earsplitting levels....keep what you got or look at pro audio.

BDT

bigaudiofanatic

I agree with everyone, sell them and come back with a budget. They are not made for music also 4 of them is not a stereo setup that is more HT setup. I would say that even some of the lower end polks would be better than your CV's. If you have that big of a budget, is that for just new fronts or everything?

wayne3burk

speakers speakers speakers --- I really love my SDA-1Cs that i've had since 89... now i'm using them in an A/B configuration with magnavox companion cabinet speakers. I get nice rich base for the polks and mids and highs with clarity from the nice vintage magnavox cabs.

nguyendot

Magnavox makes "speakers"?

kawizx9r

nguyendot wrote: »

Magnavox makes "speakers"?

Yep, so did Mitsubishi. No affil - http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ele/1466705758.html

mhardy6647

Maggotbox made some worthwhile hifi and radio hardware in their heyday (into the early 1970s). Their old console tube stereo amps can be excellent starter platforms for an inexpensive foray into tubes for the suitably adventuresome. Their speakers were generally kind of meh but are certainly available inexpensively for anyone who wants to play.



In the late 1970s when Philips took over Magnavox, there were some nice receivers made in US Magnavox factories under the Philips brand.



Mitsibushi speakers, you say? :-)

richamor

James t wrote: »

Thanks for everyones input on this matter. Wife is going to kill me LOL cause the CV arent going to sell fast cause of shipping. And then money I've spent already. Yes a cleaner tighter sound with bass thats true and loud. I bought these for jamming to current music. when I turn it up it needs to hurt. (CV's do, but wrong kind)
Budget? 2000.00 on new speakers. I'll keep everything else. My problem with the 90's polks are old technology? computer aided design? new material componets? I'm sure no one here is using windows 3.1 anymore or 98 2003 ect. Same with you car, if you still have a carburetor your a fool, unless its a 502 chevy.

Thanks you for ur help, out they go. Maybe I'll sell them to my brother. LOL[/QUOTE

Based upon that statement, I'd consider larger speakers (only 2) and more amplifier power. A big sub, or 2, would get the bass you're after. Klipsch would be a good choice for mains. If what you're looking for is what I call club sound, LOUD, thumping bass, audible midrange and clear highs. I'm not sure the Polks will give any better than the CV's in that respect. My CV's are in the garage system for that reason.
As someone mentioned, a pro system could be a solution. It's all about what sounds good to YOU. Good luck!

tonyb

richamor wrote: »

James t wrote: »

Thanks for everyones input on this matter. Wife is going to kill me LOL cause the CV arent going to sell fast cause of shipping. And then money I've spent already. Yes a cleaner tighter sound with bass thats true and loud. I bought these for jamming to current music. when I turn it up it needs to hurt. (CV's do, but wrong kind)
Budget? 2000.00 on new speakers. I'll keep everything else. My problem with the 90's polks are old technology? computer aided design? new material componets? I'm sure no one here is using windows 3.1 anymore or 98 2003 ect. Same with you car, if you still have a carburetor your a fool, unless its a 502 chevy.

Thanks you for ur help, out they go. Maybe I'll sell them to my brother. LOL[/QUOTE

Based upon that statement, I'd consider larger speakers (only 2) and more amplifier power. A big sub, or 2, would get the bass you're after. Klipsch would be a good choice for mains. If what you're looking for is what I call club sound, LOUD, thumping bass, audible midrange and clear highs. I'm not sure the Polks will give any better than the CV's in that respect. My CV's are in the garage system for that reason.
As someone mentioned, a pro system could be a solution. It's all about what sounds good to YOU. Good luck!

Comparing Polk speakers to CV's is like a diamond to a ****. The OP I believe is looking for better sound,not necessarily the club sound. A couple LSI 9's with an amp and a decent sub would be miles ahead of what he has now,and miles away from that club sound,which to me has overblown bass that drowns out the rest of the music and ear piercing highs. If a pro system is what he's after,knock your socks off,but your on the wrong board for that info.

organ

Another +1 for the Klipsch. From your description, that is the only one I can think of. I'm a big Klipsch fan. Their sound really gets your adrenaline pumping. Take a look at their RF line. From the Heritage line, only the Cornwall and Klipschorn will have powerful bass.

I'm not saying this is the only brand for you. Look around and demo.

heiney9

James t wrote: »

Thanks for everyones input on this matter. Wife is going to kill me LOL cause the CV arent going to sell fast cause of shipping. And then money I've spent already. Yes a cleaner tighter sound with bass thats true and loud. I bought these for jamming to current music. when I turn it up it needs to hurt. (CV's do, but wrong kind)
Budget? 2000.00 on new speakers. I'll keep everything else. My problem with the 90's polks are old technology? computer aided design? new material componets? I'm sure no one here is using windows 3.1 anymore or 98 2003 ect. Same with you car, if you still have a carburetor your a fool, unless its a 502 chevy.

Thanks you for ur help, out they go. Maybe I'll sell them to my brother. LOL

Best advice is to head over to Audiokarma or Audioholics. Your logic is extremely flawed in your examples as audio products don't follow that progression and those 2 sites can help you with what you're looking for more than we can here. I have no idea what you mean by "it needs to hurt". That's one of the most absurd statements I've read in awhile also one of the most bizarre.

We try to get rid of the hurt here and if it hurts it usually means it sounds like ****, we don;t like things that even remotely sound like ****. OTOH, many people at AK and AH like things that sound like ****, hence my recommendation.

H9

coolsax

kawizx9r wrote: »

Yep, so did Mitsubishi. No affil - http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/ele/1466705758.html

I saw some mitusbishi floorstanders in a goodwill store not to long ago :rolleyes:

wayne3burk

Well I am new to this forum (and club) ... and i see there are lots of folks with both good tastes and very nice systems (cost restricted and otherwise) ... so here's my question and you've probably heard it a thousand times before. Has anyone experimented with running A+B configuration with their Polk speakers (in my case my SDA-1Cs)? I find that if i use a vintage pair of 2-Way bookshelf speakers on top of my 1Cs that i get a more richer mids and crisper highs - especially nice when i'm listening to 60s Jazz and post WWII big band Albums. second part to this question is am i just coloring matthew polks genius with tinny paper 2-way speakers, i.e., the equivalent of interjecting tone controls or EQ?

Muchos Danke,
Wayne